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Old 08-14-2006, 02:50 PM   #16
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I think I just came up with a solution to my own problem. PM'ing the Seller doesn't do any good, but if I feel the need, I can always PM potential buyers that have shown an interest and that way they can do some research and the Seller will not even know or be offended.
True, but not all interested buyers post on the thread! Some just email the seller direct.

I've seen a lot of threads here where people have (without flaming) questioned aspects of pictures of yorkies that they've seen for sale, and I learned a LOT from those observations. When I bought Kiki, I felt like I was able to (with reasonable intelligence) judge for myself whether her price was appropriate to her quality. Her coloring was different from any other "yorkie pup" pics I'd seen, and indeed, the breeder also sd. that her markings were not standard. But then, I only pd. $800 for her.
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sorry but i think if someone is looking for a yorkie they should already know about the breed BEFORE looking for one, its up to them to do some research first and then they wouldnt need someone on here to warn them this or that dont look right, yorkies are all colours and sizes full grown let alone when they are a pup, you just cant tell if its a pure bred or a cross by just looking at a pic. if someones looking for a pup no about the breed, colours, and sizes, then try to look for a pup that has those things you want but even then you still never know what you will end up with as a adult, if someone puts an ad up selling what they say is a yorkie and the ad doesnt say anything about a cross then why ask if its a cross? if it was a cross the ad would of said it was and if it is a cross and that person is not being truthful then asking them isnt going to make them admitt it.
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Old 08-14-2006, 03:16 PM   #18
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Lacey, your heart is in the right place but unfortunately you can't save the world, I wish you could. I tried and ended up getting shot down for it -- by the buyers involved not necessarily in this forum but in my area.
Regardless of the warnings and urgings to do your homework before purchasing a puppy, guidelines of what a reputable breeder looks like, guideline about the Yorkie breed and what to look for even in a pet puppy, people will do as they please and it cannot be regulated. If it goes wrong ultimately it will be the buyer that ends up with the problem.
As with anything else in this world, it is a buyer beware world. I know what you are talking about I am saddened also by some of the posts I have seen.
There isn't squat you can do about it but glad you posted your thoughts.
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My new girl has alot of white on her chest. Does the mean she is mixed?
Just because a yorkie may have alittle white on her chest does "NOT" mean she is not a full blooded yorkshire terrier. I have some excellent lines in my home and a time or two have gotten a puppy with alittle white on the chest and a couple of times alittle white on the tip of the feet.
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Old 08-15-2006, 02:22 AM   #20
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Just because a yorkie may have alittle white on her chest does "NOT" mean she is not a full blooded yorkshire terrier. I have some excellent lines in my home and a time or two have gotten a puppy with alittle white on the chest and a couple of times alittle white on the tip of the feet.
I agree here.

The thing I've noticed on SOME for Sale posts is the overall apperance of the puppies may be different than what we see as the norm. We all see yorkie puppies here every day. When someone does a FOR SALE thread - yes - people SHOULD be able to ask questions and but not just because a little 'white' is on the chest - the overall apperance should be taken into consideration. Asking to see the mom and dad should be ok - but it isn't ok to be hurtful. (unless it's obvious it's someone out to take advantage of people)

There should be a way to ask questions tactfully without being mean about it. There are all sorts of yorkies being sold here - Many of us have certain 'looks' we expect to see - and if a thread doesn't have that 'look' and we have a question - its not hard to ask it nicely....and using the pm function is a good idea too.

I remember a for sale post here. The woman claimed to be selling an $8,500.00 yorkie - http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sho...light=thousand

She said she was giving YT first crack at him. Well - some curious YT members found that same dog for sale on the FREE Yahoo classifieds - out there for sale where anyone could buy him.

She also said she wouldn't post his picture HERE for fear of someone stealing it .....Yet she had posted the picture of that same dog all over the Free Classifieds. So....basically - that seller lied.,,not once - but a few times.

so sometimes we should question a seller - but again - always respectfully.
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Old 08-15-2006, 02:44 AM   #21
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I love to read the yorkies for sale post, even though I'm not actively looking for a puppy right now. However, I don't feel it is my responsibility to police these posts.

I think it should be okay, even encouraged for potential buyers to ask questions. But I wonder about the motivation of people who arent "in the market" when they are grilling someone with a yorkie for sale. Too often, I've read posts in a for sale thread that come across as an attack on a breeder, which to me seem a little hasty. (I am not talking about any specific post, or in anyway commenting about anyone in particular).

If potential buyers have questions for the breeder or for the general population of yorkie talk, they are free to post their questions here. I, for one, would most likely pm the "seller" rather than ever publicly post my interest. While I respect everyone's opinion, and may end up asking for it, I would want to first form my own about the seller and the pup.

I just think that we should ALL keep in mind that it's important to treat each other with kindness and respect. Even if you suspect something may be amiss, there are polite ways of asking questions without coming across as attacking someone.

BTW, my girl is a pure bred AKC registered yorkie. She meets few of the standards. I knew that when I picked her out (2 lbs at 10 weeks,some white on chest). But, I loved her anyway!
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I think that anytime you wonder about something, are confused about something, or think something may be wrong --- you can respond and ask the poster for more information. You certainly aren't be slanderous or even unkind if you are asking questions...

As far as being "inbred," you should feel free to ask about something like that -- just state that you want to know more about it - because you have always understood that it was not the best thing to do......

Also - just bringing some questions forward -helps all of us question some things and learn more about other things.

I sure wouldn't shy away from any posts I question or don't understand -- and - let's be honest - sometimes if a person is given the chance to explain a little more or answer a few questions, then we may even agree with them......

If you don't agree or wonder about some posts - just be tactful and ask for more information............... nothing wrong with this...


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i totally agree with this post. this is how i have been getting most of my information is due to people asking questions.
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I agree that it is fine to ask questions, but we all need to be cognizant of how those questions are asked, especially if the person who started the thread is a veteran YTer.
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Just because a yorkie may have alittle white on her chest does "NOT" mean she is not a full blooded yorkshire terrier. I have some excellent lines in my home and a time or two have gotten a puppy with alittle white on the chest and a couple of times alittle white on the tip of the feet.
Hi you are absolutely right. Usually as the puppy grows and matures the white disappears into the coat. The white blaze on the chest in particular gets lost into the tan or gold.
It is not at all indicative that this is not a purebred.
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I think the bottom line here is that you should stop and think before you hit that submit button. Sometimes people, including myself, will read a thread, get their tail feathers ruffled, and type something really quick without thinking of the ramifications of what we are saying. I think that if everyone made a conscious effort to go back and re-read their post BEFORE they hit that submit button, that a lot of this unnecessary rudeness (or what might be perceived as rudeness) would go away. There have been MANY MANY occasions when I have gone back and reread my reply before submitting and have seen something that might be misconstrued. In these instances I have gone back and changed what I've said and added a smiley or something so nothing is taken the wrong way. There have also been times when I've posted something so quickly and then I go back and realize that what I've just posted might be rude and then I wish I could just totally delete my post. Whenever I do this, I make a conscious effort to apologize to the person whom I've potentially offended.
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Maybe do a little research on the poster BEFORE you post a reply. The person selling the pups may be a very respectable breeder/poster who has had litters before. In that case, if there is something suspect, like whether it is purebred or not, then that would be something that needs to go in a PM to clear things up for yourself personally. Whereas, if someone from Africa comes on and it is their very first post and it is clearly a scam, then yeah, maybe we should put it in the public forum. I think we should just be more congnizant of the person who starts the thread and their feelings.
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THis is Salem, a puppy born from two AKC parents several months back. Neither have the least bit of white on them, and they look very yorkie Almost every yorkie born here has white somewhere. Totally different pedigrees. Im not sure why, but he has more then most do. ANd all of it fades out with age to a light tan.
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awe hes cute!!!
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I think the bottom line here is that you should stop and think before you hit that submit button. Sometimes people, including myself, will read a thread, get their tail feathers ruffled, and type something really quick without thinking of the ramifications of what we are saying. I think that if everyone made a conscious effort to go back and re-read their post BEFORE they hit that submit button, that a lot of this unnecessary rudeness (or what might be perceived as rudeness) would go away. There have been MANY MANY occasions when I have gone back and reread my reply before submitting and have seen something that might be misconstrued. In these instances I have gone back and changed what I've said and added a smiley or something so nothing is taken the wrong way. There have also been times when I've posted something so quickly and then I go back and realize that what I've just posted might be rude and then I wish I could just totally delete my post. Whenever I do this, I make a conscious effort to apologize to the person whom I've potentially offended.
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There are many breeders/websites that are discussed here. The only time I have a problem with someone stating negativity is when a long time member is posting their puppies.

YT is a friendly forum. We stick up for each other as members before non members. I don't like seeing long time members getting their feelings hurt. If I see a pup that I don't think is the standard and it is from a long term member's breeding, I just don't say anything.

Now, if someone has a question about a breeder that is not associated with YT, then I'll comment. I've seen threads started (in past) about newbies questioning a certain YT member and I've told them to contact that member privately.
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