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[luvdorkyyorkies]

I do believe many believe no white is better and that is okay. That is just an example......many other things can be commented on.
But to say hurtful things is not appropriate.
Many times it is better just not to comment. Most certainly if you are not in the market.
There is nothing to gain from insulting someone or being unkind.
If without a doubt you know someone is dishonest then it should be brought to others attention. But just to negatively comment to comment can really affect someone, its just plain mean. Your comment is typed and over usually but it may effect them the whole day or longer.......... they are wondering why? and feeling attacked. I have been there, I think almost every member probably has at one time or another.
I have seen it alot of times on for sales threads........the very few times I have posted in the years, I was a target a couple times.
SOmetimes I think it might be best to close a thread to comments in that section, except to administration, in case someone forgets a pic or doesnt put all the info or something.

[smileyanni]

I might have a suggestion
If someone is worried about something, then why not start a what if thread, just like everything else on here. Let's say you don't think someones pups are purebreed, instead of a link and a name say I saw a site and this is what the pups looked like, can any one explain how you would know? I hate to say this but there are lots of things that people don't know about yorkies and they come to this site like I did years ago looking for friendly suggestions... if someone can't bring up a conversation thats contraversial then what is this site for. I did research, but you know I learned more on this site when I started looking then I did in any of the yorkie books I found at the pet store. If someone doesn't get something like hmm... those puppies are from Africa (which should trigger scam)... and I've heard numerous people on here say they fell for it, how would other people learn? I like to share my mistakes!

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by luvdorkyyorkies

I do believe many believe no white is better and that is okay. That is just an example......many other things can be commented on.
But to say hurtful things is not appropriate.
Many times it is better just not to comment. Most certainly if you are not in the market.
There is nothing to gain from insulting someone or being unkind.
If without a doubt you know someone is dishonest then it should be brought to others attention. But just to negatively comment to comment can really affect someone, its just plain mean. Your comment is typed and over usually but it may effect them the whole day or longer.......... they are wondering why? and feeling attacked. I have been there, I think almost every member probably has at one time or another.
I have seen it alot of times on for sales threads........the very few times I have posted in the years, I was a target a couple times.
SOmetimes I think it might be best to close a thread to comments in that section, except to administration, in case someone forgets a pic or doesnt put all the info or something.

My Champion Go-Go whelped a litter of 2 boys an a girl, one boy had the white on his chest. Believe me he is pure bred with a pedigree of a long line of Champions on both sides.

Mary

[luvdorkyyorkies]

Mary,

I am not a show breeder. But I am a person who loves yorkies and loves to learn.
I would venture to say your puppies have beautiful coats as adults.
Do you have a picture of one of your puppies? It sure would be fun to see one. It would be even more fun to see that same puppy at adult age!
White in the brown of a coat of a traditional yorkie is a good trait.......but this is only my humble opinion.

[Lacy's Mom]

This thread has turned into a "is white okay" thread. I should have been more specific, a lot of white, a strange shaped head, low set floppy ears in my hypothetical situation.

I want to clarify, I think white is just fine. In my new litter I have one boy with a white spot on his chest and white on the very tips of his back feet.

[luvdorkyyorkies]

Lacy,
I know it isnt about white colorings.
Is it a thread about being nice to others?

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by luvdorkyyorkies

Mary,

I am not a show breeder. But I am a person who loves yorkies and loves to learn.
I would venture to say your puppies have beautiful coats as adults.
Do you have a picture of one of your puppies? It sure would be fun to see one. It would be even more fun to see that same puppy at adult age!
White in the brown of a coat of a traditional yorkie is a good trait.......but this is only my humble opinion.

I would be happy to, if if you e-mail me privately I will send you a picture of my Go-Go as a puppy and as an adult and a picture of her puppies.

Mary

[JiggityJig]

The only time I have a problem with someone stating negativity is when a long time member is posting their puppies.

YT is a friendly forum. We stick up for each other as members before non members. I don't like seeing long time members getting their feelings hurt. If I see a pup that I don't think is the standard and it is from a long term member's breeding, I just don't say anything.

I hear what you're saying, but don't know how I feel about that. Why should long-time members get preferential treatment, if indeed their dogs are subpar?

In the incident that prompted this thread, there were some people (including me) who thought the pups looked overpriced for their quality (and imo that was an issue even completely APART from the white on the chest). It got blown up into a huge thing, there was a reprimend from a mod, and many members sd. that unless you were actually interested in buying a pup, you should never comment on a "for sale" thread.

I was sort of taken aback, b/c I KNEW that I had seen PLENTY of threads before where people had raised questions and concerns about dogs being offered for sale. I didn't know if rules had changed, or what.

Well, the NEXT DAY someone (not a "preferred" long-term member, apparently) posted pups for sale. Now, the breeder didn't appear to be shady, and linked to her website, which looked and sounded great, and her dogs were GORGEOUS and obviously wellbred. BUT....on THIS thread some of the SAME members who had been so upset about negative comments on the OTHER thread now apparently DID think it was appropriate to post a (legitimate!) concern about the size of the dam.

So, why the double-standard? I'm honestly asking here, not just trying to stir the pot. I don't think anyone spoke out rudely or inappropriately in the second thread that I mentioned, and the concern was legitimate....but I also thought a legitimate concern was expressed in the first example.

I suppose I'm just not "getting" the preferential treatment thing. Just because someone is a longterm member here doesn't mean that they have a quality breeding program, or are honest, or etc etc. And I think that if a person is so inclined, they should be able to point that out....regardless of how many post counts are under ANYONE'S name.

JMO

[luvdorkyyorkies]

Whether you are an old member or a newbie never gives you the right to disrespect anyone.

[chachi]

Originally Posted by JiggityJig

I hear what you're saying, but don't know how I feel about that. Why should long-time members get preferential treatment, if indeed their dogs are subpar?

In the incident that prompted this thread, there were some people (including me) who thought the pups looked overpriced for their quality (and imo that was an issue even completely APART from the white on the chest). It got blown up into a huge thing, there was a reprimend from a mod, and many members sd. that unless you were actually interested in buying a pup, you should never comment on a "for sale" thread.

I was sort of taken aback, b/c I KNEW that I had seen PLENTY of threads before where people had raised questions and concerns about dogs being offered for sale. I didn't know if rules had changed, or what.

Well, the NEXT DAY someone (not a "preferred" long-term member, apparently) posted pups for sale. Now, the breeder didn't appear to be shady, and linked to her website, which looked and sounded great, and her dogs were GORGEOUS and obviously wellbred. BUT....on THIS thread some of the SAME members who had been so upset about negative comments on the OTHER thread now apparently DID think it was appropriate to post a (legitimate!) concern about the size of the dam.

So, why the double-standard? I'm honestly asking here, not just trying to stir the pot. I don't think anyone spoke out rudely or inappropriately in the second thread that I mentioned, and the concern was legitimate....but I also thought a legitimate concern was expressed in the first example.

I suppose I'm just not "getting" the preferential treatment thing. Just because someone is a longterm member here doesn't mean that they have a quality breeding program, or are honest, or etc etc. And I think that if a person is so inclined, they should be able to point that out....regardless of how many post counts are under ANYONE'S name.

JMO

Well obviously one member said some pretty bad things to the older member because they were suspended. They dont just suspend someone for giving an opinion

[JiggityJig]

I read the things she wrote before they were deleted. Yes, they could have been phrased in a nicer way, but they were no worse than what I've read before....so I was shocked that she got banned over it.