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10-19-2017, 12:40 PM | #1 |
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| Need a second opinion re. emergency treatment Hi everyone. I have not been at this forum for a long time. Unfortinately, I really need a veterinarian opinion re. recent tragic situation. This is not about my baby girl yorkie who is 13.8 yo. This is re. my rescued chihuahua baby I had for 4 years. He was super positive, very healthy, very sensitive, loved kisses and hugs, very smart, and not like most chihuahuas. He loved everyone, including children, and every single day he made me laugh, or least smile. Best ever companion. I tell you even more. I am not sure that I love yorkies more after having chihuahua. Sorry to all yorkie lovers. I am of of them too. Anyway, before I write what happened, PLEASE, let's avoid lectures about feeding bones to the dogs. I am aware of it, and it happened without me, unfortunately. The person, who gave the beef bone to our big dog, and my boy stole from her, and somehow ate it, already is about having heart attack and feels terribly bad and guilty. The reason I mention it because I tried to get a consultation at some foreign forum, and instead of consultation re. treatment, I was blamed for being an idiot who fed my dog bones. This is not true. I cannot handle it again. I simply need the vet assistance re. emergency treatment. I truly believe my boy could be saved because I brought him ASAP next 30-hours minutes after he started to have symptoms. Thank you in advance. |
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10-19-2017, 12:44 PM | #2 |
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| Long story, sorry Bimka, chihuahua rescued boy is 9 yo, full of happiness and life, very healthy, very positive, super hyper boy. He was perfectly happy with absolutely no sign of any sickness, except appx 6 days or so before October 12, I smelled some poop from his mouth. I had some argument with my mom, who spent most of the time with him recently, for missing he ate poop. However, the smell dissapeared and came back and I started to worry if he needs to see a doctor. The smell was from inside, didn’t smell like from his mouth. On October 11 evening my chihuahua stole a beef bone from big dog, and somehow ate it without me seeing it. He felt good and happy in the evening. He slept with my mom, and according to her he was not comfortable. In the morning he went to potty in our backyard, walking OK (as seen from from cameras). Then I noticed he was acting strange, vomiting white foam, and his body clenched, and it was visible he is in pain. Then I noticed a vomiting stain on the rug next to tiny, but shark bones. When I saw that some stain were pink, I immediately took him to emergency. Also, he smelled very bad for unknown reason that morning. While driving in a car, he was vomited 3 time white foam, and clearly felt better after it. We came to emergency at 8am. I left him in emergency thinking he is safe now. I did mentioned about pink (bloody) vomit, bad smell, etc. At 8.53am I received a call from vet. She was telling me that XRay shows his body full of bones, and she asked permission to put him on fluids, and do blood test. I agreed. She mentioned that she want to do it first to see if bones might move and then he doesn’t need a surgery. At appx 12pm I returned to the clinic and was shocked that my dog was still under fluids. She mentioned that he is going to have another Xray next 40 minutes to see if his body was cleaned. Also, she said his blood work is very good. She called me at 1.06pm and said that he needs a surgery and she is worried he started to have a blood diarrea. I double checked if they cleaned his body enough and let him vomit (this it what I was thinking she is doing all the time he was there), she told me they did the best they could, and I agreed to do surgery asap, and asked if I need to come to the clinic. She mentioned there is no needs for it, and she is going to have surgery next hour. I came home thinking my dog is doing surgery at this moment. However, at 2.09pm I received a call from her and she mentioned that she continue to keep him on fluid because she nervous to do surgery because he is very weak. She also mentioned that most likely he will need to relocate to emergency service at 5pm and we agreed to meet by that time at the clinic. However, I already were super worry and called to the clinic again and asked if they do everything right….. She said he became letardic, they increased dose (don’t know what it is), and new medication (I don’t know which one), and he immediately died after. I had a shock, and hysteria attack, because I even didn’t expect my boy can die at vet clinic. Her med records from 10am show that laparotomy will be likely necessary, aggressive fluid therhapy as alternative. The made blood test only at 11am, after 3 !!!! hours he had been in clinic, and after 2 hours I told them to do it. Record from 1pm shows the surgery must be done. no reaction of fluid therapy. Vet written record saying she decided to continue fluid therapy, he became letardic, then alerted, and after control check up in 15 minutes they found him dead. Passed possibly from DIC, secondary to severe HGE from bones. In my personal opinion, I do believe my dog could be saved if the surgery was done on time, and cerenia was prohibited at his case. However, I am not a vet, and might be mistaken. The owner of the clinic supported the vet and said she did everything right, and he could have die from a surgery (anastesia). I personally think she wasted important time when the surgery must be done, and then yes, it was already risky to do it. I will really appreciate your honest opinion. I need firstly for myself to understand clear what happened to my boy. Someone who gave the bone, is about having heart attack and feels extremely guilty. This is a tragedy for my family. He was not a pet, he was our 4 legged child. Thank you |
10-19-2017, 12:49 PM | #3 |
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| I cannot attached the XRay for some reason-((((( This is a blood work. She said he does have a GOOD bloodwork, however it was not true. HCT 70.84, HGB 24.8, RBC 11.19, LYM 0.77 |
10-19-2017, 12:51 PM | #4 |
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| This is medication he was given: Cerenia - antivomiting. This is my biggest concern |
10-19-2017, 12:53 PM | #5 |
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| I cannot attach any files to provide important info re XRay, med given, etc. I dont know why. I will be happy to send to email of someone willing to provide consultation. Thank you |
10-19-2017, 01:05 PM | #6 |
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| This is medication he was given: Cerenia - antivomiting. This is my biggest concern IV fluids cefazolin sodium inj. 1 g. metronidazol inj. 5mg/ml hetastarch pain injection Buprenex cerenia inj 2.2-11 My boy was 9 pounds |
10-19-2017, 01:09 PM | #7 |
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| since I cannot attach XRay, all I can add his Xray made at 8.40 am shows he DOES have obstruction is in the small intestine. |
10-19-2017, 05:20 PM | #8 |
Yorkie mom of 4 Donating YT Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LaPlata, Md
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| Yes he needed surgery probably ASAP. I do have to mention the big dog should not have gotten that kind of bone either. Raw bones do this and that’s why no breed or size dog should have them. You need to go over rules in your house and say no bones for any of the dogs. I am very sorry for you loss.
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10-19-2017, 06:53 PM | #9 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: ME
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| I would say if you have question what happened I would make a state board complaint against the veterinarian. They will review what happened and give you the rightful answer. People on this board can not really judge a veterinarians notes, diagnostics, medications, and medical judgements. As they were not there and are not veterinarians. Also I would have requested a necropsy at your state's veterinary school of his body by the pathology department. It would hopefully help answer some questions for you. So sorry for your loss. |
10-19-2017, 08:18 PM | #10 |
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| Necropsy will be ready next week, and yes, I will definitely going to contact the board. At this moment I want to collect as much info as possible not just for me to understand, but also for future legal step. I truly believe it is vet malpractice case, as least negligence. Thank you. |
10-19-2017, 08:25 PM | #11 |
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| May I ask admin to delete this thread? Thank you |
10-20-2017, 02:14 AM | #12 |
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| Why would you want this thread deleted. There is a lesson to be learned by your story. So very sorry for the loss of your sweet baby.
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10-20-2017, 02:41 AM | #13 |
Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator | We don't delete threads. It's impossible to say how/why your baby passed away in this situation, to be honest. Only the necropsy can tell more of the story. I'm so very sorry for your loss.
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10-20-2017, 04:40 AM | #14 |
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| Because I need veterinarian opinion only. I don't have any energy, and I dont want just "chat" about it. Thank you for understanding. Last edited by omichka; 10-20-2017 at 04:44 AM. |
10-20-2017, 04:55 AM | #15 |
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| There are no veterinarian's on this forum.
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