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wemple2 04-30-2014 05:59 PM

Yes thank you Linda...still praying for a miracle for this little girl.

Cherie6446 04-30-2014 05:59 PM

I have been waiting for an update. Thank you.

ladyjane 04-30-2014 06:01 PM

Bobbie may have forgotten. She goes to bed early because she is up at 3:30AM .. and she has been going to the hospital every day after work. I know she has to be exhausted, but she never complains. Such a trooper!

ladyjane 04-30-2014 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by wemple2 (Post 4429647)
Yes thank you Linda...still praying for a miracle for this little girl.

She really needs one. She is a very sick pup. I am still choosing to believe that she will turn around.

wemple2 04-30-2014 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 4429650)
She really needs one. She is a very sick pup. I am still choosing to believe that she will turn around.

Me too...miracles happen every day, may it please happen soon for Piper.

lisaly 04-30-2014 06:13 PM

I am praying for your precious baby. I saw your photo and her video, and piper captured my heart.

mygirlHalo 04-30-2014 07:22 PM

I was waiting for an update...saying prayers.

windsantz 05-01-2014 02:39 AM

Update on Piper Thursday early Morning
 
Good Morning everyone. I'm sorry for no update last night. But, I went to bed early. Thank you Linda for updating on Piper. I really appreciate that.

Well, It is 5:30am. I will not hear anything until around 8am.
But, this is where we are as of last night.

As Linda stated, They have been giving her Nutrical since yesterday morning, along with her Dextrose. They wanted to do a True Cut Biopsy, But she and her liver are so small it could not be done. They will slowly wean her off the Dextrose starting this afternoon. She will be completely off by tonight. If her blood sugar holds with just the Nutrical, there is still hope. And the next step would be weaning her off the feeding tube Saturday.
If she does not hold her blood sugar when off the Dextrose, we will have to say goodbye to our Baby Piper Girl.
But, I'm not gonna think about that today. I'm going to think of how energetic she was yesterday. I visit her everyday after work, and she is used to mommy feeding her when she gets there. I could not feed her yesterday because they need an empty stomach for the biopsy. She just kept licking my fingers wondering where her food was. She is now back to eating since the biopsy could not be done.

My little girl is a fighter. The Dr. has given her a 10% chance and says 2/3 of her liver is bad. I say that's still a 10% chance and 1/3 of her liver could change this whole outcome. I will not give up until there is nothing else we can do.

So thank you all for your prayers. Tony, Piper, Piccolo and myself thank you from the bottom of our Hearts.

I will update as soon as I hear something this morning.

Tech calls around 8, Dr. calls around 12. :aimeeyork:aimeeyork

windsantz 05-01-2014 02:58 AM

Just an FYI, I contacted the breeder yesterday to let her know what was going on.
Let me start here. When my vet thought it was a Liver Shunt, I contacted this breeder of 20 years. She says she has never heard of Liver Shunt. I told her it is a condition that more Yorkies get than any other breed. She apologizes, and states again that she does not know what this is. I told her she needs to research this.
So yesterday while waiting to see my Piper Girl. I call her and let her know that is is possibly microvascular displasia, she says, I have never heard of this. I tell her that we are fighting to save her life and that we have spent alot of money doing it. She tells me she has not money. I don't want your money I tell her. I want you to know that you are possibly breeding unhealthy dogs. Then I get really mad and I think loud, I tell her 20 years of breeding Yorkies and you know nothing about this disease that Yorkies get. There were other choice words. But, we wont go there.
So, if we have to let our Piper Girl go. The Dr. told me that they would want to do a biopsy on her liver, no cost. They want just as bad as us, to find out what happened to our girl. We will get the results. And if my baby has microvascular displaysia, I will be revealing this breeder. I am not going to let her get away with breeding sick dogs for money. And am not going to let her get away with selling sick babies and putting them and their owners thru what we have been thru. We got Piper Girl in January of this year. In just these few short months she has stolen our hearts. We will never be able to replace her. But, before I get another one, and believe me I will get another one. I am going to do a better research job on the breeders before I get one. I could really rant and rave more. But, just wanted to put this out there.

107barney 05-01-2014 04:04 AM

Do they still think this is something infectious? Or toxic? Was her white blood cell count elevated? I'm not sure you mentioned that earlier.

MVD usually doesn't cause acute liver failure and many dogs live long lives with it. Not that breeders should breed dogs to have it and your breeder should be aware of MVD/shunts if she is breeding at all. So whether this dog has MVD or not, your breeder and her lack of familiarity with MVD/shunts in this breed tells me all I need to know about her. But, it would be very unusual for MVD to cause this as the vet earlier told Linda.

I'm sorry to read this terrible news about Piper. I hope that a miracle happens. I know I would have a hard time with all of this. You must be tired, try to take some care of you.

Rhetts_mama 05-01-2014 04:04 AM

I'm so sorry that Piper is still doing poorly. I hope you have better news today.

matese 05-01-2014 04:07 AM

Poor sweet lil Piper, she has such spirit and a lil fighter, my heart is torn for that lil innocent baby, and for the stress you and DH are going through. I pray she pulls through, and yes, the breeder of yorkies for 20 years should be knowledgeable about ALL yorkie diseases. I can't even bring myself to write this, but if it comes to loosing your lil girl at such a young age, a biopsy is a must, and breeder called out for selling sick babies. You will be in my thoughts until your next post. Piper will be in my heart and prayers today. (((hugs)))

megansmomma 05-01-2014 04:13 AM

Poor Piper I look at the thread daily and Linda's FB post to just become more sad not to see any improvements. Are the vets offering any new hope at all? I thought that is she wasn't significantly better by Wednesday the vets were telling last week a decision needed to be made. This would be devastating if I were faced with so much unknown for all this time. I'm so sorry :(

windsantz 05-01-2014 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 107barney (Post 4429779)
Do they still think this is something infectious? Or toxic? Was her white blood cell count elevated? I'm not sure you mentioned that earlier.

MVD usually doesn't cause acute liver failure and many dogs live long lives with it. Not that breeders should breed dogs to have it and your breeder should be aware of MVD/shunts if she is breeding at all. So whether this dog has MVD or not, your breeder and her lack of familiarity with MVD/shunts in this breed tells me all I need to know about her. But, it would be very unusual for MVD to cause this as the vet earlier told Linda.

I'm sorry to read this terrible news about Piper. I hope that a miracle happens. I know I would have a hard time with all of this. You must be tired, try to take some care of you.

The Dr. does think that she got something Toxic that kicked this into gear. We don't have a clue and still looking for things of what she may have gotten into.

107barney 05-01-2014 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by windsantz (Post 4429799)
The Dr. does think that she got something Toxic that kicked this into gear. We don't have a clue and still looking for things of what she may have gotten into.

I'm just so sorry. I can't imagine...

windsantz 05-01-2014 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by megansmomma (Post 4429787)
Poor Piper I look at the thread daily and Linda's FB post to just become more sad not to see any improvements. Are the vets offering any new hope at all? I thought that is she wasn't significantly better by Wednesday the vets were telling last week a decision needed to be made. This would be devastating if I were faced with so much unknown for all this time. I'm so sorry :(

Yes, Monday we were told if she was not better by Wednesday, we would have to make the decision. Things got way better and her chances went up. Then everything went wrong that could go wrong. So this is our last chance for her to make it. There is nothing that can be done after this.

ladyjane 05-01-2014 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 107barney (Post 4429779)
Do they still think this is something infectious? Or toxic? Was her white blood cell count elevated? I'm not sure you mentioned that earlier.

MVD usually doesn't cause acute liver failure and many dogs live long lives with it. Not that breeders should breed dogs to have it and your breeder should be aware of MVD/shunts if she is breeding at all. So whether this dog has MVD or not, your breeder and her lack of familiarity with MVD/shunts in this breed tells me all I need to know about her. But, it would be very unusual for MVD to cause this as the vet earlier told Linda.

I'm sorry to read this terrible news about Piper. I hope that a miracle happens. I know I would have a hard time with all of this. You must be tired, try to take some care of you.

If she has MVD that makes whatever slammed her even more difficult to repair. Bobbie and I have discussed this and the vet has told us both the same thing. No, MVD would not cause this by itself. BUT, I do think, if she has MVD the breeder should know about it. To say that you don't know about liver disease as a breeder of 20 years? Pretty disgusting...I am so sick of breeders saying they don't know all of these conditions that they themselves choose to ignore. They just keep on breeding and making money. (edit to add that I don't think ALL breeders do this)

ladyjane 05-01-2014 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by megansmomma (Post 4429787)
Poor Piper I look at the thread daily and Linda's FB post to just become more sad not to see any improvements. Are the vets offering any new hope at all? I thought that is she wasn't significantly better by Wednesday the vets were telling last week a decision needed to be made. This would be devastating if I were faced with so much unknown for all this time. I'm so sorry :(

Things changed when her glucose went up. Additionally, other vets weighed in during rounds. You cannot euthanize a pup if it appears to be improving. What they are doing now really is a last ditch attempt and Saturday is the cut off.

windsantz 05-01-2014 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 4429807)
Things changed when her glucose went up. Additionally, other vets weighed in during rounds. You cannot euthanize a pup if it appears to be improving. What they are doing now really is a last ditch attempt and Saturday is the cut off.

Actually, if this does not work come test Friday morning. We will be letting her go Friday afternoon. Me and Tony will both be going up and spending time with her. And will be with her in the end. Then they will do a liver biopsy. Then we will take her home.

But, we are hoping that she gets to come home under other conditions.

ladyjane 05-01-2014 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by windsantz (Post 4429818)
Actually, if this does not work come test Friday morning. We will be letting her go Friday afternoon. Me and Tony will both be going up and spending time with her. And will be with her in the end. Then they will do a liver biopsy. Then we will take her home.

But, we are hoping that she gets to come home under other conditions.

You are all in my thoughts and prayers. Hoping she will do well once weaned off the IVs. If not, you will certainly know that you gave her every possible chance. She is lucky to have you.

DBlain 05-01-2014 05:40 AM

oh Bobbi, I am crying just reading this, I know how quickly they wrap their paws around your heart, I am praying for a miracle and thankful that you have a supportive husband

kjc 05-01-2014 05:56 AM

Wow! How sad! And what a little fighter you have on your hands! Adding my prayers for Piper and her family... and her vets.

Lolasmom1211 05-01-2014 06:12 AM

Don't give up yet...miracles do and have happened on YorkieTalk! Fight Baby Girl Piper - you can do this, keep fighting! We're all pulling and praying for you.

windsantz 05-01-2014 06:29 AM

Thursday Morning update on Piper Girl.
It's one hell of a roller coaster ride. Her liver values are all back down and her billyrubin is back to normal. But, Her blood sugar dropped to 90 even with the Dextrose and Nutracal. They are now giving her double Dextrose every 2 hours to try to get it up again. Will let it stay up for most of day and then try to wean her off to see if she can sustain her blood sugar with just the Nutrical. They are going to be running the test again at 10am to see if it has gone up any. And then again at 2. So, this fight is not over. He does say she is more alert and energetic today, and as of 4 this morning eating very well. So please keep praying. I will keep ya'll up dated as soon as I hear something.

YazminD 05-01-2014 06:38 AM

Oh Bobbie, I can only imagine what you're going through. My heart's aching for you and Piper. I do believe in miracles though and will continue to pray that Piper will be your little miracle girl! Sendings (((Hugs))) and positive thoughts your way.

kjc 05-01-2014 06:45 AM

Praying, praying, praying....

Cherie6446 05-01-2014 06:54 AM

I check all day for updates on Piper. This sweet baby has stolen my heart as I am sure she has everyone else's. The decision you are are facing should never have happened. Your breeder is totally a liar or incompetent or both. I have faced the same terrible decision you are coming too and understand the depth of pain and heartbreak you will have but as long as there is hope, and I believe there is, then we will continue to pray for a miracle.

Maximo 05-01-2014 07:07 AM

Praying for Piper for more good news to come, and for her to win this battle.

{{{hugs}}} to you Bobbie.

TxVicki 05-01-2014 07:16 AM

Daily prayers have been said for Miss Piper.

yorkietalkjilly 05-01-2014 07:20 AM

The news certainly doesn't sound good but even a tiny hope is something for Piper to fight with and you to keep on hoping for. I was once told that the human liver has amazing recuperative abilities if given half a chance and hopefully, so is the canine liver.

Even if it turns out this isn't a congenital liver disease-related problem with Piper, a breeder of Yorkshire Terriers that claims she's never heard of either MVD or liver shunt is appalling and truly frightening. It's apparent Piper's breeder has little intellectual curiosity or sense of responsibility of a dog-breeder's duty and burden, if you will, to constantly inform themselves about the dangerous, genetic medical conditions being spread like wildfire throughout the breed due lack of knowledge and/or total indifference to the misery being perpetuated with their irresponsible breeding practices. That shocking response from a long-time Yorkie breeder, though it's sadly certainly not a surprise, once again informs us there has always been a type of breeder who could care less about what kind of dog they produce as long as it's cute enough to sell!!!

I'm truly sorry the news is not better today and will stay in prayer for to precious little Piper finally be able to fight this off in these next hours and get through this medical crisis. I know you have done all that you could to get her the best care there is and you should be commended for your caring and responsible actions once she got sick. You also informed her breeder of her dangerous breeding methods which include failing to inform herself of basic facts of genetically-inherited medical conditions of the Yorkshire Terrier, so that all reading your thread will know - if they didn't already - that this type of breeder is still out there - even in this day and time when information is so easily available - and is a danger to this wonderful breed, whether or not she was directly involved in Piper's current medical dilemma.

This thread is a heartbreaking but awfully important thread in so many ways for long-timers and newbies to read but the only point now is we all hope and pray for a miracle for Piper.


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