Thank God for evidenced based research and the results that Tamiflu provides to pups with parvo. Caught early, as soon as the pup snaps positive, starting them on Tamiflu will usually have the pup well within 3-5 days, and THOUSANDS of dollars saved, trying to keep a pup alive! If I had a pup with parvo, if my vet would not agree to start the pup on Tamiflu immediately, I would change vets! There are vets that are not familiar with this effective treatment and then there are vets that are financially motivated to not use it, citing "not proven", "ineffective", etc.....provide those vets with the research results......In YOUR case, I am praying you go back to that vet at PetSmart and show her the effective results YOU have experienced first hand.....and provide her with research results on this evidenced based research with Tamiflu in the early treatment of parvo. Stay the course with all you are doing around the house, with the cleaning and the isolation....this what it takes to get through this stuff.....I can promise you one thing for certain....this is going to give you a whole new fear and opinion of parvo!

In my opinion, I shouldn't have to provide my vet with proven research to get him to agree to treatment. If it won't harm my pet, it won't hurt to give it to them, and if it might save them, unproven or not, and I want to treat my pet with that medication, I would think a vet would be on board.

Do you think tamiflu could also be given as a preventative in between the first and second set of shots?? That was when I worried the most.

They're 15 weeks now and have had 3 sets, and the vet says if they were going to get it, they probably would have by now, so I'm fairly certain we're safe.
Just wondering your thoughts??

Everything I have read about the use of Tamiflu with parvo, it can NOT be given prophylactically in pups that are not infected with the virus. It can make them very ill if given to a pup that is not tested positive for parvo. The Tamiflu works directly at cell level against the virus....for it to be effective against the virus, the virus must be present in the pup. My suggestion is aimed at people that will not make a move unless they have 100% agreement with their vet.....so perhaps their vet may not be up on the research, so they can provide the vet with the research to validate why they want the pup treated with Tamiflu. I had a cousin that had a pup come down with parvo, she called me and I told her to talk to her vet about the Tamiflu. Her vet is a small rural vet, had never heard of that, and told my cousin they are always coming up with home remidies for parvo....I sent her the research sites to pull up and print and show her vet, the vet went along with it, even tho she told my cousin not to put any faith in this, but it would not hurt to try....pup was well in 5 days.....now that little rural vet is using Tamiflu for all the pups that come in with parvo. The sooner the pup is diagnosed, especially before bloody stools start, the quicker the Tamiflu works. In the case where the pups are tested positive and they are just starting with listlessness and perhaps vomiting, the Tamiflu bounces them back on their feet in less than a week. Even more importantly, such a quick resolution to the infection keeps the virus from doing organ/nerve damage in the pup.

That's about it for me too- wow! What an emotional time and what dedication and action to see these pups through, good job mama.

Thank you!!

We lost our little Cindy this morning. She was the only one not treated with tamiflu.The vet didn't think her case was bad enough. That won't ever happen again. Luckily the others are doing extremely well at this point. Only time will tell of any permanent cardiac or neurologic damage. I'll keep them on ad diet and the transistion to id for a longer than normal time. I'm hoping to give the gut time to heal and recover before introducing anything too hard to digest. I plan on treating them like my NEC babies at workand take it very slow, although Piper and Poh disagree and want to eat anything and everything. Nina's case was so mild I don't think there'll be any long term effects.


I would certainly worry about a 15 week old puppy. My Piper was 7 months old, had recieved one set of shots from the breeder and another complete set of 4 from the vet. I know she got them. My friend works for the vet and gave them herself. With Parvo leave nothing to chance.

So sorry you lost one, and I wish you all the best in moving forward and getting rid of the Parvo.

I'm so sorry for your loss. RIP Cindy.

Piper and Pooh are doing good. Piper will eat whatever doesn't eat her first. I've had to divide her AD diet into 4-5 meals. She eats so fast I'm afraid she make herself throw up.Pooh is back to his active yappy self. Yesterday he went after the alarm guy through the crate. I loved this man. Without my asking he said he would wear booties since I had small puppies in the house.
Unfortunately 2 more puppies are sick. A poodle and a llasa mix. Both are on fluids and standard treatments in adfition to tamiflu. The Lhasa mix, Alice, is already improving. Vomited twice , no stools. The poodle,Cole, is still pretty sick but only threw up a few times and had only 1 stool.
We talked with our vet and the vaccine manufactor and ate changing the way we vavcinate our puppies. We'll be using neopar at the recommended 42 days them 3 weeks later we'll use neopar as the parvo component for our 5-way. The 5-way we use is solid and the dilutent is liquid parvo.They said we could substitute sterile water. I have a seperate fridge for the dogs meds. I use a monitoring sheet that I copied from work to make sure the temp is consistant. We get our meds from revival with the extra coolant.
I've ordered a fogger for the virkon to use after we're done with this mess. Hopefully we can keep the remaining puppies healthy.

Alice, the llasha ix acts like she was nevet sick. I really believe the tamiflu helped protect the intestional villa. She's eating and playing well.

Cole my little poodle is'nt doing well. He only had one more stool and it wasn't bloody but he has doesn't move and will vomit anything that comes near his mouth. He does have a good urine output so he's not dehydrated. We're going to continue fluids at home and pray for the best. One of my best friends is a vet tech at our vets office and is staying with us. If we left him at the vets he'd be alone for almost 12 hours since it's easter. If he dies it won't be alone. Right now he's wrapped in. potty pad sleeping on my chest.
To add to our fun Izzy, who weighs all of 3 pounds, was coming down the stairs off of the sofa and fell off the 2nd step and landed in such a way and broke her foot. Right now it's splinted and she's on pain meds. We go see the orthopedic vet tomorro to find out if she needs surgery.
Usually we have very healthy dogs. I don't know what is happening around here.

What rescue is this that has this many litters of puppies? I don't understand why they are there at your home dying?? Why would a rescue be buying from a feed store? This sounds like a breeding situation, not rescue. Very confused.

We always spay the pregnant females unless it is too late, usually if the vet determines that she is due within 2 weeks. We absolutely DO NOT breed. We do not buy our vaccines from "feed stores". Revival. is a highly reputable company and we buy our vaccines with our vets advice. Our dogs get needed medical care. Would you like to see our bills? I have 3 litters . Two which were born here, one we got when mom and babies were 3 weeks. One litter was born 6 days after the shelter gave her to us, the other 11 days after an owner surrender. Would you have rather seen them born in a shelter where they would have certainly died or been put sleep before they even had a chance? I have been woking24/7 to keep these babies alive. I have these babies because in 5 years of rescue I have NEVER had parvo. You have no idea how hard I've worked and what I 'm going through. My life and my job has been on hold and will be until everyone is safe. I am funtionig on 4 hour sleep a day- in 1-2 hour increments. I can't let anyone in to help to keep this from spredding. Do you want to help or take in a pregnant mom or 2 or do you just want them put to sleep. I come here for ideas and support, not more criticism. I

Honestly, I would rather see a pup humanely euthanized than to suffer under the conditions you are describing.

I have never heard of a rescue allowing three litters of puppies plus unknown other dogs in one foster home. I have been in rescue for a long time and this is not a good situation that you are describing. I don't want anyone to get the message that what you are doing is what all rescues do.

Don't keep saying you are a hero because you saved them from death in a shelter...that is no excuse for allowing this suffering to continue. I believe these puppies need to be hospitalized! This sounds just horrible.

Please consider getting yourself some help. It does not sound like you can manage this by yourself especially if you are not sleeping...that is adding to the mess.

Im very concerned about the amount of dogs in your care all exposed to parvo. I believe you are trying your best this is just too mhuch for one person and you are overwhelmed

I don't consider 3 dogs unknown numbers . I hve vave 1 sick puppy. Everyone else is now recovering or healthy. They've all now had 2 doses of neopar. I would rather bring the pup home than leave him unattended in a crate at the vets for up to 12 hours. It has been easter and I can't find any vet who'll quarantee the animals will have 24 hour staffing on a holiday weekend. I 'v e been caring for1-2pound babies for the last 28 years.I can certainly handle a 2 pound puppy. The physical care is the easy part. I's the emotional that is hard.