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crazydoglade 03-30-2014 08:01 AM

Piper is still.with us. Went to see her yesterday and she was now having bloody stools which I expected, but still hard to see. She cuddled in her favorite spot under my chin and I even got a few kisses, along with blood on mu shirt which I didn't like anyway which is good since its now in the trash.
So far the puppies are fine. I did vaccinate the little one with the neopar and will wait to vaccinate the 2 older litters. Looking at there records it 10 now 11 days since they had their neopar.
I had the guys who help with the yard work come in and we bleached anything that could be moved to the drive and the used trifecta.. Cleaned the carpet with trifecta and applied it to everything else. Wiped down walls and all furniture that wasn't sprayed. The patio's and garage were bleached and trifecta applied. Trifecta applied to the lawn. Set up an isolation area in the garage( it's a nice garage)for when Piper comes home.I got a few isolation gown from work but need to find a supplier .Any ideas? All bedding washed and dried on sanitize mode using trifecta. Toys thrown away. Ordered virkon and the guys will come apply it as soon as it gets here.
What did I forget?
The fosters will stay as long as necessary. I've read and been told the incubation period for parvo is 3-5 days. Some say 3-7 days. If there is no further cases within 2 weeks it should be as safe as it's going to get.
Do you know where I can get environmental cultures done for parvo?
I'll be going to see her again later. Say a prayer for all of them .

McheleM 03-31-2014 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by crazydoglade (Post 4413953)
Piper is still.with us. Went to see her yesterday and she was now having bloody stools which I expected, but still hard to see. She cuddled in her favorite spot under my chin and I even got a few kisses, along with blood on mu shirt which I didn't like anyway which is good since its now in the trash.
So far the puppies are fine. I did vaccinate the little one with the neopar and will wait to vaccinate the 2 older litters. Looking at there records it 10 now 11 days since they had their neopar.
I had the guys who help with the yard work come in and we bleached anything that could be moved to the drive and the used trifecta.. Cleaned the carpet with trifecta and applied it to everything else. Wiped down walls and all furniture that wasn't sprayed. The patio's and garage were bleached and trifecta applied. Trifecta applied to the lawn. Set up an isolation area in the garage( it's a nice garage)for when Piper comes home.I got a few isolation gown from work but need to find a supplier .Any ideas? All bedding washed and dried on sanitize mode using trifecta. Toys thrown away. Ordered virkon and the guys will come apply it as soon as it gets here.
What did I forget?
The fosters will stay as long as necessary. I've read and been told the incubation period for parvo is 3-5 days. Some say 3-7 days. If there is no further cases within 2 weeks it should be as safe as it's going to get.
Do you know where I can get environmental cultures done for parvo?
I'll be going to see her again later. Say a prayer for all of them .

You could ask the vet about soil testing, but it won't matter if someone else brings it in on their shoes, clothes, purse, etc. You just have to clean it out of the house (and like Yorkiemom1 said, there's no such thing as overkill) and make sure no one brings it in. Spray them with vikrol, make them walk through the tray, make them gown, glove, show cover, whatever you have to in order to keep it from reappearing.

I spent $7500.00 to keep a puppy alive. He's now 3 years old, and we have a litter of 13 wk old puppies (who have not been outside and have had little to no visitors!) and that was my scare....my adult dogs have not even been outside since the pups were born because I didn't want it accidentally brought in from outside on their paws or fur. We use potty pads. I'm diligent about cleaning walls, bedding, toys, crates, and floors anywhere the dogs and pups will be. The potty pads get soaked in bleach solution before washing and then get washed on the sterilize cycle. This stuff is nasty and you can't be too careful!

Lilah Charm 03-31-2014 08:35 PM

Oh I am heartbroken for you and all those sweet pups. My prayers go out to you.

crazydoglade 04-01-2014 08:11 AM

I visited with Piper yesterday and will go back later today. A good friend works there and keeps an eye on her and keeps me updated.She's actually the friend who found her for me. She was there when she was immunized so we know she was fully immunized which is why we are so mystified as to why she got parvo. She still has bloody stools but not as much mucus, but since she hasn't eaten since thursday there probably isn't anything left. Still won't take water even from my finger, food absolutely no way but at this point we expect too much.
The puppies are doing great. The oldest 2 litters are eating dry food and playing. The youngest litter are starting to play and eating softened food since they only have a few teeth. Mama's are NOT happy about being isolated, they usually sleep with me.
Thanks for all thoughts and prayers. I think that's helping as much as the medical treatment. I've been a nurse for 34 years and I really believe it makes a difference. We've had some recoveries that have no other explaination.

Yorkiemom1 04-01-2014 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by crazydoglade (Post 4415091)
I visited with Piper yesterday and will go back later today. A good friend works there and keeps an eye on her and keeps me updated.She's actually the friend who found her for me. She was there when she was immunized so we know she was fully immunized which is why we are so mystified as to why she got parvo. She still has bloody stools but not as much mucus, but since she hasn't eaten since thursday there probably isn't anything left. Still won't take water even from my finger, food absolutely no way but at this point we expect too much.
The puppies are doing great. The oldest 2 litters are eating dry food and playing. The youngest litter are starting to play and eating softened food since they only have a few teeth. Mama's are NOT happy about being isolated, they usually sleep with me.
Thanks for all thoughts and prayers. I think that's helping as much as the medical treatment. I've been a nurse for 34 years and I really believe it makes a difference. We've had some recoveries that have no other explaination.

The wonderful thing about you being a nurse is you can get your mind wrapped around the concept of "contamination"....it is difficult for many people to see in their minds the extent of how germs are so easily spread from one place to another....you can totally understand the concept of "isolation" and how that needs to be done to be effective. Continuing to pray for your baby girl and all the litters....doing all you are doing will lock it down I think....I was told it takes at least 2 years before it disappears from your yard, which is why I shut down breeding for 2 years....and I personally have NO faith in Clorox or bleach to clean with...I was already doing THAT, thoroughly and totally, when my home was exposed and my babies caught it (from clothes/shoes off a "wanna see puppies" visitor looking to buy a Yorkie). I now use Virkon everywhere, on everything.....and I closed my home down to anyone and everyone....no one comes into the house until the babies are at least 11 weeks old and have two shots in them....and fortunately, since most of my babies are sold before they are born, no one fools with these babies except me, my son, and after 11 weeks old, the new owners!

McheleM 04-01-2014 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Yorkiemom1 (Post 4415146)
The wonderful thing about you being a nurse is you can get your mind wrapped around the concept of "contamination"....it is difficult for many people to see in their minds the extent of how germs are so easily spread from one place to another....you can totally understand the concept of "isolation" and how that needs to be done to be effective. Continuing to pray for your baby girl and all the litters....doing all you are doing will lock it down I think....I was told it takes at least 2 years before it disappears from your yard, which is why I shut down breeding for 2 years....and I personally have NO faith in Clorox or bleach to clean with...I was already doing THAT, thoroughly and totally, when my home was exposed and my babies caught it (from clothes/shoes off a "wanna see puppies" visitor looking to buy a Yorkie). I now use Virkon everywhere, on everything.....and I closed my home down to anyone and everyone....no one comes into the house until the babies are at least 11 weeks old and have two shots in them....and fortunately, since most of my babies are sold before they are born, no one fools with these babies except me, my son, and after 11 weeks old, the new owners!


We were told it can live in the soil longer than that... And rainy seasons bring it to the surface. Every year around May/June the vets in our area see an increase in parvo cases...

crazydoglade 04-02-2014 09:54 PM

Piper is still vomiting and still has bloody, mucoid stools. She seems a little more active and put her front paws on my chest and laid her head on me when I had to leave her in her cage. They know how to make you feel guilty. I can't stop worring about her.
The other puppies are doing great. I started the younger ones on id food today and they are doing well. Their mom started having loose stools yesterday but no vomiting so she had a fecal today and everything came back negative. The vet started her on antibiotics, probiotics and something for the diarrhea (forget the exact name) I also started her on ID food. Except for the loose stools she seems fine.
They may start Piper on TPN tomorrow if she doesn't start improving but right now we take it a few hours at a time, later a day at a time.

chachi 04-02-2014 10:02 PM

Parvo doesnt always show up on the first test

crazydoglade 04-02-2014 10:10 PM

we'll watch carefully. So far no other issues. She's eating well without vomiting. Normal activity level.

McheleM 04-03-2014 01:31 AM

I can only tell you from my experience, but we had Noah on beechnut baby food meat. We spoon fed him. We also had him on a probiotic to help with all the antibiotics we had him on. This was a powder we sprinkled on the baby food. When I went to visit him at the vet, I tucked him in the front of my shirt and sang to him and rocked him like you would a baby. Skin to skin contact improves the health of NICU babies, so I figured it couldn't hurt with a sick Furbaby. Eventually we did a blood transfusion on him and he turned the corner.. My vet honestly thought she was going to have to have "the talk" with me. He had problems with his glucose (I found out they weren't spoon feeding him at night. They would just put the food in a bowl and put it in his cage) and would have episodes every morning-because he hadn't eaten.so I finally talked the vet into letting me keep him at home after he got to a certain point, because I knew I could give him round the clock, 24 hour care and they couldn't. She agreed after him passing certain criteria. He's now a happy, healthy 3 yr old (although he's a little moody. I equate that to spending 2 weeks in a cage at a crucial time in his life when he should have been learning from his mom, or at least his people).

Not sure what your vet believes in, or what you believe in, but I'm a firm believer in probiotics for pets and people, as well as contact for babies and pets. You may try it and see if there's an improvement? I would put a washcloth under him before I put him in my shirt, just in case, and I brought an extra shirt as well. And I also made sure to spray myself before going back in the house because even though Allie had been fully vaccinated, I didn't want to take any chances.

Yorkiemom1 04-03-2014 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by McheleM (Post 4416149)
I can only tell you from my experience, but we had Noah on beechnut baby food meat. We spoon fed him. We also had him on a probiotic to help with all the antibiotics we had him on. This was a powder we sprinkled on the baby food. When I went to visit him at the vet, I tucked him in the front of my shirt and sang to him and rocked him like you would a baby. Skin to skin contact improves the health of NICU babies, so I figured it couldn't hurt with a sick Furbaby. Eventually we did a blood transfusion on him and he turned the corner.. My vet honestly thought she was going to have to have "the talk" with me. He had problems with his glucose (I found out they weren't spoon feeding him at night. They would just put the food in a bowl and put it in his cage) and would have episodes every morning-because he hadn't eaten.so I finally talked the vet into letting me keep him at home after he got to a certain point, because I knew I could give him round the clock, 24 hour care and they couldn't. She agreed after him passing certain criteria. He's now a happy, healthy 3 yr old (although he's a little moody. I equate that to spending 2 weeks in a cage at a crucial time in his life when he should have been learning from his mom, or at least his people).

Not sure what your vet believes in, or what you believe in, but I'm a firm believer in probiotics for pets and people, as well as contact for babies and pets. You may try it and see if there's an improvement? I would put a washcloth under him before I put him in my shirt, just in case, and I brought an extra shirt as well. And I also made sure to spray myself before going back in the house because even though Allie had been fully vaccinated, I didn't want to take any chances.

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We did all this for my 5 babies....plus daily prayer circles by my vet and staff, plus the blood transfusions. We had IVs on my babies to counter the hypoglycemia and we also started TPN during the first week,,,,we started feeding RC Rescue which is food my vet uses on critically ill babies, during that second week....I held and rocked and sang to each one...took a change of clothes to the vet and changed in the staff bathroom as I left. This was a day and night struggle for almost 2 weeks, but they saved them.....I only lost one little girl. Then my vet told me parvo can cause damage in different organs, that may not show up until later in their lives.....so I kept all those babies because I didnt want to sell a baby that may develop some kind of illness on new owners. I have one little male that the virus settled in the tear duct nerve in his eyes, so he requires eye drops/eye care three times a day for the rest of his life, and the last annual check up, he has now also developed a minor murmur....the others are doing fine with no evidence of any illness, but we are watching for any heart issues that may develop with valves or murmurs.... Has your vet done blood transfusion on Piper? These transfusions are loaded with antibioties and will help Piper fight the virus....my doner was a yellow lab that belongs to a staff member that is the blood doner at the office....the staff laughs and said they were watching to see if the Yorkies ears flopped over....if the ears flopped over, they said that was from "Gus"!!!! I would have a serious talk about a transfusion if I were you....

McheleM 04-03-2014 02:11 AM

We are lucky so far that nothing has shown up for him. They told us sometimes parvo pups that survive have sparse hair, but he has the most beautiful coat of all 3 adult dogs. Other than his moodiness (we tease that he's emo) he honestly had no issues.

crazydoglade 04-03-2014 09:51 PM

Piper seems to be doing better, no stool or vomiting for the last few hours before I saw her this afternoon.She hasn't ate or drank anything since last friday. She still looks so sad, dirty and smelly.I know it can't be helped and they even gave her a partial bath yesterday because she had so much blood on her but it still makes her seem even more pathetic. She's lost so much weight, weight she didn't have to spare.
It was so hard to leave her today.I almost called in to work to stay with her. Cried for the first time, Piper just gave me a kiss.
My concern now is where do I put her after getting her home. I have a 3 car heated garage that is used for the dogs. I had planned on putting her in a crate on the side opposite the main crates and kennels but realize that all it takes is one fly to land on some stool and the whole area is contaminated. Friends are trying to talk me into leaving her with another friend for the next 3-4 weeks. He had parvo a few months ago, actually lost 4 of 6 dogs. He's a great guy, wonderful with dogs but Piper doesn't know him. She'll still require a lot of care after discharge and I don't think she should have any additional stress. Plus she's my baby and I want to take care of her. Is that selfish?
I thought about using my master bath with her in a crate. No other dogs would be allowed, I have plenty baby gates. It would be easy to disinfect daily and no one uses it except me.

Yorkiemom1 04-03-2014 11:00 PM

[QUOTE=crazydoglade;4416733]Piper seems to be doing better, no stool or vomiting for the last few hours before I saw her this afternoon.She hasn't ate or drank anything since last friday. She still looks so sad, dirty and smelly.I know it can't be helped and they even gave her a partial bath yesterday because she had so much blood on her but it still makes her seem even more pathetic. She's lost so much weight, weight she didn't have to spare.
It was so hard to leave her today.I almost called in to work to stay with her. Cried for the first time, Piper just gave me a kiss.
My concern now is where do I put her after getting her home. I have a 3 car heated garage that is used for the dogs. I had planned on putting her in a crate on the side opposite the main crates and kennels but realize that all it takes is one fly to land on some stool and the whole area is contaminated. Friends are trying to talk me into leaving her with another friend for the next 3-4 weeks. He had parvo a few months ago, actually lost 4 of 6 dogs. He's a great guy, wonderful with dogs but Piper doesn't know him. She'll still require a lot of care after discharge and I don't think she should have any additional stress. Plus she's my baby and I want to take care of her. Is that selfish?
I thought about using my master bath with her in a crate. No other dogs would be allowed, I have plenty baby gates. It would be easy to disinfect daily and no one uses it except me.[/QUOTE]

I would NOT send my baby girl to anyplace that has also had parvo as recently as "a few months ago"....I would put her in the master bath....where are the puppies that are isolated? Put the puppies in the master bath and put your recovering little girl at the foot of your bed....

I cant help but wonder if you got your cases of parvo from that "friend"....

chachi 04-03-2014 11:12 PM

[quote=Yorkiemom1;4416736]
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Originally Posted by crazydoglade (Post 4416733)
Piper seems to be doing better, no stool or vomiting for the last few hours before I saw her this afternoon.She hasn't ate or drank anything since last friday. She still looks so sad, dirty and smelly.I know it can't be helped and they even gave her a partial bath yesterday because she had so much blood on her but it still makes her seem even more pathetic. She's lost so much weight, weight she didn't have to spare.
It was so hard to leave her today.I almost called in to work to stay with her. Cried for the first time, Piper just gave me a kiss.
My concern now is where do I put her after getting her home. I have a 3 car heated garage that is used for the dogs. I had planned on putting her in a crate on the side opposite the main crates and kennels but realize that all it takes is one fly to land on some stool and the whole area is contaminated. Friends are trying to talk me into leaving her with another friend for the next 3-4 weeks. He had parvo a few months ago, actually lost 4 of 6 dogs. He's a great guy, wonderful with dogs but Piper doesn't know him. She'll still require a lot of care after discharge and I don't think she should have any additional stress. Plus she's my baby and I want to take care of her. Is that selfish?
I thought about using my master bath with her in a crate. No other dogs would be allowed, I have plenty baby gates. It would be easy to disinfect daily and no one uses it except me.[/QUOTE]

I would NOT send my baby girl to anyplace that has also had parvo as recently as "a few months ago"....I would put her in the master bath....where are the puppies that are isolated? Put the puppies in the master bath and put your recovering little girl at the foot of your bed....

I cant help but wonder if you got your cases of parvo from that "friend"....

Yes you know it can come in on someones shoes right it could be just from him visiting your house


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