Sick morning tummy

[yorkieusa]

Originally Posted by marcerella02

I know they are just awful when I take them so I'm sure they affect her- she is super sensitive to everything (just like her mom!) so maybe they will take a bit to get out of her system!

I don't know if your vet would recommend a quarter of a pepcid or not or whether she's that much in need of it or not. You can talk to him and see what he says. Only you know how bad she is.

[marcerella02]

Originally Posted by yorkieusa

I don't know if your vet would recommend a quarter of a pepcid or not or whether she's that much in need of it or not. You can talk to him and see what he says. Only you know how bad she is.

Thankfully, I can fix the problem. She just needs to get a taste of something in her- usually yogurt or apple sauce that I have to force in her until she realizes it helps her tummy! Then she is a happy camper, back to normal and having breakfast. before surgery, she would play ball- the tummy doesnt' affect how she feels at all- then would be hungry from playing ball and would be happy to eat breakfast. It is this darn surgery!

[yorkieusa]

Originally Posted by marcerella02

One other question while I think about it. Layla has no interest in standing at all. Everything she does it is laying down or sitting- even eating. Her surgery was on the 9th- is this normal?

I would give her some time. Are you taking her out to potty on a leash and does she walk on it then or not? If she's not putting it down at all by now, then I would be back at the vet.

[marcerella02]

Originally Posted by yorkieusa

I would give her some time. Are you taking her out to potty on a leash and does she walk on it then or not? If she's not putting it down at all by now, then I would be back at the vet.

Yes we just came in from a pee/poop and she walks on it no problem- well she is hobbling a bit but she doesn't pick it up at all. But she does not want to stay out long and is eager to get back in her buggy and lay down. I have made a 3x3 pen for her and she just wants to lay down there too.

[yorkieusa]

Originally Posted by marcerella02

Yes we just came in from a pee/poop and she walks on it no problem- well she is hobbling a bit but she doesn't pick it up at all. But she does not want to stay out long and is eager to get back in her buggy and lay down. I have made a 3x3 pen for her and she just wants to lay down there too.

That is normal. She needs to rest it so she can heal. You don't want her running around on it anyway. Just out to potty and back.

[marcerella02]

Originally Posted by yorkieusa

That is normal. She needs to rest it so she can heal. You don't want her running around on it anyway. Just out to potty and back.

That's what I thought, but i have no idea what normal is. She is also quite jumpy lately, maybe anxious, but I suppose that is normal as well. She seems quite concerned about noises and where people are moving.

[yorkietalkjilly]

Just because your dog has successfully eaten a diet for 3 years doesn't mean it cannot now be adversely affecting her. Something is making her spit up, eat grass and get sick from an empty tummy prior to antibiotics, even if it is just once a month. It could be excess stomach acid from something creating it - possibly her current diet. Dogs often live with empty tummies for long periods of time without nausea or symptoms other than hunger. I don't think an empty tummy causing white gums and nausea until you get applesauce in it is normal and would see if the vet wants to think about changing something about the diet and/or run some tests on her if she is still having the problems she was having prior to the antibiotics.

[marcerella02]

Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly

Just because your dog has successfully eaten a diet for 3 years doesn't mean it cannot now be adversely affecting her. Something is making her spit up, eat grass and get sick from an empty tummy prior to antibiotics, even if it is just once a month. It could be excess stomach acid from something creating it - possibly her current diet. Dogs often live with empty tummies for long periods of time without nausea or symptoms other than hunger. I don't think an empty tummy causing white gums and nausea until you get applesauce in it is normal and would see if the vet wants to think about changing something about the diet and/or run some tests on her if she is still having the problems she was having prior to the antibiotics.

I do see what you are saying. I will call our vet in the morning to make an appointment. We have to go there anyways for Layla to get her Cartrophen Vet injection.

[marcerella02]

Layla had a good morning- no sick stomach but her symptoms just returned about 45 min ago. This has never happened in the afternoon so I called the surgeon's office and we both think it is a reaction to the Metacam (Layla has a very sensitive tummy). We are going to take her off of it and see what happens. They also suggested we make an appointment with our vet, and we have one tomorrow at 11 am. I got so nervous when I heard her belly making noises. I am still shaking. That never happens during the day. Thankfully she just ate a plate of food so I hope that helps settle things for today. They said to watch for vomiting or lethargy. I had to laugh when they asked if she has energy- well she is crate 23 hours a day and sleeps so it is a bit hard to tell but they were happy to hear she will go for a walk in the yard before she pees/poops. They don't think it has turned into an ulcer but that's what the vet will be checking tomorrow. *finger crossed*

[yorkieusa]

Her tummy is probably got some acid from the metacam. Antibiotics and ibuprofen are both very hard on their tummies and I am sure it is even worse when they already have problems.

[marcerella02]

Originally Posted by yorkieusa

Her tummy is probably got some acid from the metacam. Antibiotics and ibuprofen are both very hard on their tummies and I am sure it is even worse when they already have problems.

Thanks for the reassurance. I am sleeping on the couch tonight with Layla right next to me in her buggy. Going to check on her hourly to make sure she is ok. I feel like i just can't wait to get to the vet. She ate tonight at 10:30 so I am hoping that will hold her over, if not- we'll eat again in the middle of the night if we have to She is a very sensitive girl and I hope this is all it is.

[yorkieusa]

I'm sure she'll be fine tonight. Try to relax and get some rest. Let us know what the dr says.

Side Effects



Side effects of Metacam most commonly include stomach upset, kidney or liver malfunction and abdominal bleeding. Side effects may be mild and often temporary, like nausea, vomiting and diarrhea. Always call your veterinarian if you notice your dog becoming lethargic, unwilling to eat or showing the above symptoms for more than a day.



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[marcerella02]

I read 3 pages worth of google search on side effects.... lol.. I am now trying to convince myself she doens't have liver failure- you know what the internet is like- read something and you are sure you have it!

Originally Posted by yorkieusa

I'm sure she'll be fine tonight. Try to relax and get some rest. Let us know what the dr says.

Side Effects



Side effects of Metacam most commonly include stomach upset, kidney or liver malfunction and abdominal bleeding. Side effects may be mild and often temporary, like nausea, vomiting and diarrhea. Always call your veterinarian if you notice your dog becoming lethargic, unwilling to eat or showing the above symptoms for more than a day.



Read more: What are the Side Effects of Metacam in Dogs? | eHow.com What are the Side Effects of Metacam in Dogs? | eHow.com

[kjc]

Did the script say to give on an empty stomach or can the antibiotic be given with food? Sometimes depending on the drug it is recommended to give with food if tummy upset occurs, but do check with your vet. Pain relievers can make them go off their food... Tink ate better when the pain meds were stopped after her surgery. Maybe a little bit of chicken baby food with the pill would help, like a snack/reward for taking her meds...

[marcerella02]

Kathy- she was supposed to have it with a meal, which she did.

Just got back from the vet- our vet was on holidays but her "sub" is just so lovely. She agreed that it was the metacam and we are going to stop using it for now. She said her gums being light pink were an indication that Layla was in pain which makes sense because her tummy was just awful. She gave Layla a shot of something similar to gravol (hmm.. what do you Americans call that... the stuff for motion sickness....) that will keep her tummy calm while her body processes yesterday's dose of meds. She said to watch Layla for swelling in her knee or any other signs that she is in pain and to talk to the surgeon on Monday (when we see them to get the stitches out) and see if we need to look at different pain meds. Layla is doing great. She had some lunch and is deep into a nap at the moment (Going to the vet takes it outta ya!). Thank you all so much for your help! Layla has such a sensitive tummy and I should have known the Metacam would not have gone over well for long!