Roxy is sick, either Pancreatitis or Disc Issue

[TLC]

Originally Posted by yorkiemalt

I sure hope you find out some results tomorrow. Hoping she has a comfortable night and hugs to you Mommy. xo

Thx - me too

Originally Posted by dwerten

I think it is the spine

Has she had vaccines within last 2 months?

No - last shots were rabies, and I think that was in 2009

Originally Posted by Ellie May

Ellie eats like she always does during an episode...

I wouldn't be surprised if it is the pancreas (and think a Spec cPL should be done), but I also think it's more likely something else.

I so hope it's not her back.

hmmm...so Ellie eats no problem during it too. Roxy has had no chage in diet. She gets veggies, egg noodles, cottage cheese, apples, romaine lettuce, shredded low fat colby cheese, supplements, fish oil, vit e, hepato support, vetri dmg, cosiquin, physium fiber, VSL#3, Azodyl. Plain cherrios for treats.

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by Ellie May

Ellie eats like she always does during an episode...

I wouldn't be surprised if it is the pancreas (and think a Spec cPL should be done), but I also think it's more likely something else.

I so hope it's not her back.

really? maybe hers is more mild chronic type case as dex would not eat food or drink water when he got it but his was acute case

[TLC]

Originally Posted by dwerten

what shot?

there is an fda warning on metronidazole i posted so check it out - I think it is the shot version not pill though

her stress pace picked up meaning she was more stressful or less?

yeah my gut is not pancreas

Not sure on gas but if you think that is it give her pumpkin to get things moving out of her system quickly- also give her some green beans but food process them - both are high in fiber and will get her moving and firm her up

it sounds like she is guarding her back as she is backing up

The shot was something to help her GI and Gas. It wasn't a shot of Metro. I am giving her liquid Metro 2x a day now though.

Roxy has very high stress/anixety. She LOVES food, she when I prepare her meals, she usually goes into a mad Indy 500 race around the living room couch (over and over) until I call her in to eat.

The past couple of days she has either just stood there waiting or sat on the couch waiting. When we came back this morning and I was making her food, she started to pace/circle the small area in the kitchen, so I could tell she may be feeling a little better, bc the 'old' Roxy was trying to emerge again

She gets pysuim fiber in her food, and believe me, things are flowing.

I really hope this isn't her back

[Ellie May]

Originally Posted by dwerten

really? maybe hers is more mild chronic type case as dex would not eat food or drink water when he got it but his was acute case

Yes.
She will eat until I realize there is a problem and I have to pull food.

The changes looked chronic, but could have been recent and acute. A Spec cPL was done when no vomiting was present and it was not elevated. A SNAP was done when vomiting and it came back abnormal. I lean toward acute, but who knows.

Anyway, her life is food. She loves to eat and not much will stop her.

[TLC]

Originally Posted by Ellie May

Yes.
She will eat until I realize there is a problem and I have to pull food.

The changes looked chronic, but could have been recent and acute. A Spec cPL was done when no vomiting was present and it was not elevated. A SNAP was done when vomiting and it came back abnormal. I lean toward acute, but who knows.

Anyway, her life is food. She loves to eat and not much will stop her.

hahahahahahaha - Roxy life IS food too

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by TLC

Thx - me too



No - last shots were rabies, and I think that was in 2009



hmmm...so Ellie eats no problem during it too. Roxy has had no chage in diet. She gets veggies, egg noodles, cottage cheese, apples, romaine lettuce, shredded low fat colby cheese, supplements, fish oil, vit e, hepato support, vetri dmg, cosiquin, physium fiber, VSL#3, Azodyl. Plain cherrios for treats.

any change in her diet recently to set this off ?

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by TLC

The shot was something to help her GI and Gas. It wasn't a shot of Metro. I am giving her liquid Metro 2x a day now though.

Roxy has very high stress/anixety. She LOVES food, she when I prepare her meals, she usually goes into a mad Indy 500 race around the living room couch (over and over) until I call her in to eat.

The past couple of days she has either just stood there waiting or sat on the couch waiting. When we came back this morning and I was making her food, she started to pace/circle the small area in the kitchen, so I could tell she may be feeling a little better, bc the 'old' Roxy was trying to emerge again

She gets pysuim fiber in her food, and believe me, things are flowing.

I really hope this isn't her back

my gut is back

did vet mention tramadol at all? NO NSAIDS as that can affect liver but I know you know that

I hope you get some blood results soon

any way to find out what that shot was and if it was convenia?

I just worry about the shots now since the fda warning came out

[TLC]

Originally Posted by dwerten

any change in her diet recently to set this off ?

no.

I went out of town and hubby took over on thrs night. I prepared their food, but just left out the extra supplements (liver and probiotics and cosiquin) which I normally don't give on the weekends anyway. He said she was fine. Didn't want to eat Thrs night, but was fine on Friday morning. Hubby wouldn't give them anything but there food. I came home on Monday night and could tell she was quite. We woke up on Tues and she was shivering and that's when I really saw it all start. Hubby says she was playing with TJ over the weekend and didn't notice her weird behavior, until I mentioned it and he started to look. He agrees with me something if off, and he says she wasn't like that over the weekend.

She likes to hang on the couch arm, so she could have fallen off when no one was home...just trying to think what in the world happened

[TLC]

Originally Posted by dwerten

my gut is back

did vet mention tramadol at all? NO NSAIDS as that can affect liver but I know you know that

I hope you get some blood results soon

any way to find out what that shot was and if it was convenia?

I just worry about the shots now since the fda warning came out

If this is back, we will do a non-steriod anti-inflam, I agree with you and so does my Vet bc of her liver.

The shot I believe started with an S or C - he told me the name, bc I wanted to make sure it wasn't a Steriod. What is Convenia for?

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by TLC

no.

I went out of town and hubby took over on thrs night. I prepared their food, but just left out the extra supplements (liver and probiotics and cosiquin) which I normally don't give on the weekends anyway. He said she was fine. Didn't want to eat Thrs night, but was fine on Friday morning. Hubby wouldn't give them anything but there food. I came home on Monday night and could tell she was quite. We woke up on Tues and she was shivering and that's when I really saw it all start. Hubby says she was playing with TJ over the weekend and didn't notice her weird behavior, until I mentioned it and he started to look. He agrees with me something if off, and he says she wasn't like that over the weekend.

She likes to hang on the couch arm, so she could have fallen off when no one was home...just trying to think what in the world happened

yeah usually i know there is an issue when dh notices lol as it takes alot for men to notice things sometimes lol

Dang yeah my dex lays on the back of the couch so now i have a dog bed behind couch but i have been trying to train him to get off there so will keep working with him.

Gosh i hope it is not her back

I would just rest her and keep her more confined to one room.

Is she jumping on and off things?

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by TLC

If this is back, we will do a non-steriod anti-inflam, I agree with you and so does my Vet bc of her liver.

The shot I believe started with an S or C - he told me the name, bc I wanted to make sure it wasn't a Steriod. What is Convenia for?

convenia is an antibiotic shot

http://www.pfizerah.com/Product_Over...=EN&species=CN

cerenia is the anti-vomitting drug they use for pancreatitis and car sick dogs

http://www.pfizerah.com/Product_Over...=EN&species=CN

[TLC]

Originally Posted by dwerten

yeah usually i know there is an issue when dh notices lol as it takes alot for men to notice things sometimes lol

Dang yeah my dex lays on the back of the couch so now i have a dog bed behind couch but i have been trying to train him to get off there so will keep working with him.

Gosh i hope it is not her back

I would just rest her and keep her more confined to one room.

Is she jumping on and off things?

Good idea, I am going to put something there on the floor. I hope it is not her back too

Roxy can't jump on any furniture. Her legs are really, really short. I have foam ramps that go up the couch.

...could be a tick bit too i guess...

[TLC]

Originally Posted by dwerten

convenia is for vomitting as they use it for car sickness and pancreatitis dogs now - it is an anti-vomitting drug. I bet this is what he gave

When I call for the results tomorrow, I will ask what the shot was.

[TLC]

Originally Posted by dwerten

convenia is an antibiotic shot

Pfizer Animal Health Dogs Health Management

She hasn't vomitted though. So I don't know. He saw she had gas, and I told him she had diarreha, so maybe it was something to settle her stomach

[Ellie May]

Cerenia, not Convenia.
It's an antiemetic.

Did you say you would do a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory?
Opioids are often recommend for liver compromised dogs.