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04-02-2010, 05:11 PM | #16 |
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| i really think your dog may need steroids but talk to susan and Jody first but just want to say my dog has mvd and is on temarilp which is prednisolone and i would recommend prednisolone over prednisone in dogs with mvd as it is broken down prednisone and easier on the liver so if you opt to do steroids make sure to ask about doing prednisolone instead of prednisone it is easier on the liver. My dog has been on this for 2 years and blood work perfect so i would not be so concerned with liver function and mvd at this point but ple/lymphangiecstasia is very serious so that is what is most critical here and the liver can rejuvenate itself and there things you can do to deal with that if it gets out of whack more. |
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04-02-2010, 05:13 PM | #17 |
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| No she hasn't lost any weight. Basically when we got her we had our "issues" - periodic diarrhea & vomitting but nothing ever major or lasting longer than 24 hours. 2 weeks ago we gave her a new treat we bought at a store, it was just a basic dental treat, and the following day she didn't want to eat her kibble, and this dog goes crazy when it comes to food she'll eat anything, so I knew it was weird when she didn't want to eat. After than we saw brown liquid diarrhea and vomitting of undigested food which convinced us to bring her in. The biopsy they were doing was 1 of 3 things I guess, an exploratory abdominal surgery, a liver biopsy and an intestinal biopsy. The Vet did say though that the intestinal disease is the significant cause of her symptoms. |
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04-02-2010, 05:20 PM | #19 | |
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04-02-2010, 05:26 PM | #20 |
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| alot of vets use this site for nutritional advice Welcome to the Balance IT® Web Site so check it out |
04-02-2010, 05:27 PM | #21 |
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| What else would be a high protein food to mix with the I/D besides chicken? I'm looking into seeing a dog nutritionist in my area to help with this - that would be a good idea. And no I did not want them to cut her open just to say YEP what we thought was right. What is Susan Davis' contact info - I may or may not utilize her depending on who I can find in my area ... |
04-02-2010, 05:32 PM | #22 | |
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here is her info Holistic Veterinarian Pet Nutritionist Holistic Pet Care I would not take a chance of using someone local and them not knowing about yorkies like susan does. | |
04-02-2010, 05:36 PM | #23 |
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| here is jodi's page contact her she knows way more about this than me. I am good on ibd and mvd but this is beyond ibd i feel ;( based on that blood work http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/member.php?u=9980 |
04-02-2010, 05:41 PM | #24 |
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04-02-2010, 05:48 PM | #25 |
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| Thank you for the links, I will be checking them out for sure. The only problem I have is that I am in NY and the Holistic Vet is in California, I'd rather find someone semi-local to me so I can actually take Maddie and they can see Maddie. I'm not sure how comfortable I'd feel over the phone ... yet. But I will see, right now we are reseaching high protein/low fat diets. Maddie seems to really like the Chicken and before we took her off the Reglan she wasn't having any vomitting issues with it. We were also advised to give her a scrambled egg as well, so we are doing that in the mornings. |
04-02-2010, 06:02 PM | #26 | |
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White fish is also a source of high protien.
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04-02-2010, 06:43 PM | #27 | |
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Jody is in michigan and Vicky is in Texas and they work with susan davis and many consult ucdavis and other nutritionists all over the country just a thought. I know at cornell there is a nutritionist some work with as well but with protein losing disease i know susan saved Jill's life a few months ago as vicky almost lost her and jody and susan jumped in and the vets and specialists were not giving Jill a very good outcome but she is alive and doing well now but she was one sick little girl. I personally would work with someone i know like this but i understand your concern. I consult dr jean dodds by email and phone for my dd as she is a good drive from me and she has helped me many times more than someone local - also susan will work closely with your vet you choose as well. I personally have never worked with her myself lol so not like i am steering you for any personal reason just know she saved Jill along with Jody and many on here rave about their success with her Dr centers is known for treating dogs with liver disease but i think that is the least of your worries now and not sure how much she knows about this but if she will consult by phone for free i would be all over that too | |
04-02-2010, 06:56 PM | #28 |
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| here is an online group and the owner is a animal nutritionist - i will post her website below K9Kitchen : dog diets raw cooked allergies disease Welcome to Monica Segal when you join do a search of ple as there is a bunch of info i just did a search Last edited by dwerten; 04-02-2010 at 06:59 PM. |
04-02-2010, 07:02 PM | #29 | |
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04-02-2010, 07:09 PM | #30 | |
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I definitely would consult dr centers for internal medicine since she is in your area. Also if you are near Red Bank dr green is a great internal medicine specialist but she only goes by referral from another client so if she is close let me know and i will give you my friends name to use for referral as my friend has gone to her for years- she has a liver shunt survivor with 25% use of his kidneys and she has 6 dogs and she is super picky too lolll Red Bank Veterinary Hospital Last edited by dwerten; 04-02-2010 at 07:10 PM. | |
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