My baby has scabies. . . help!

[Skimo114]

My friend is a vet in China, speaks Mandarin, Cantonese and some English, she understands more than she speaks. If you tell me what city or province you're in I can ask around for some recommendations and try and help you find an English speaking vet if you like. u can send me a private msg if that makes u fell more comfortable.

I used to live in Asia and thus know the inconveniences of being an American pet owner in a foreign country. It took me about 4-5 different vets before I found the rt one. The only thing good about the vets in Asia are that they're much cheaper than the ones in America

[Yorkiedaze]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

Unless you really do it correctly, home cooking can be less healthy than Purina, at least Purina has all the nutrients a dog needs, and many dogs live very well on it. There are some types of Purina that are healthier than others. Looking for one with meat as the first ingredient is important. So many people think a healthy human diet is a healthy dog diet, and this isn't true, and it's really hard to give them all the calcium they need in a home cooked diet, unless you suppliment. I know Purina is not a popular choice here on YT, but she probably doesn't have the choices we have, and I'm sure it's not related to the dog's condition. Changing foods when a dog is already stressed isn't a good idea either.

Home cooking is the best and safest way to feed. Ever stop to think about what dogs ate before someone decided to take dead animals from farms, labs, vets., and road kill since they are free, and make some type of nasty brown dried things called dog food for profit? Dogs lived a much longer and healthier life when eating real food. Now our companion animals are plagued with cancers and other serious medical problems that are in epidemic proportions due to dog food, flea and tic meds and over inoculating.
These things are not government regulated. Ever wonder why the rendering plants won't let you come in? You don't even know what the heck your animals are eating when you buy commercial pet foods. How can anyone say pet food is better than real food? Where is it written?
Maybe this is another good time to post this information.

Closer Look At A Rendering Plant

Dead Cats And Dogs Used To Make Pet Food

The Dark Side of Recycling

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by kjc

And Tea tree oil, though very effecive... is too strong to be used on a puppy and most dogs, esp when the affected area is large. A tiny spot or two probably would be fine. If you choose this treatment, find a product made just for dogs/animals, I think it's a 5% solution.... would be much safer and less chance of a bad reaction...

i would never use tea tree oil as it can be toxic especially in full strength it always has to be diluted in olive oil but personally would avoid this stuff as i saw an owner on a yorkie group use it full strength on the dogs paws and the dog died as her groomer told her to use tea tree oil so she used it full strength also if you have a cat it is highly toxic to some cats so never would use that stuff - tried it before on dd for skin issue in a shampoo and she was a mess and derm said it is one of the most allergic things to dogs the meleuca tree which is what tea tree oil is from

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by Ellie May

It's worth a try this way, but it seems that vets prefer to do another after two weeks. I guess it depends on the vet...

we used revolution on dd when she started with all her skin conditions at 6 mos and we gave it topically once a month for two months and she was fine - turned out she did not have scabies but it was the way the holistic vet ruled it out

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by red98vett

I read the replies and got a little confused - is he diagnosed with scabies ? The only experience I have is remembering someone who had them in their home (no fault of their own) and it was a nightmare to get rid of - not only for the poor dog who was suffering but the humans in contact - IF it is scabies - you'll have to treat your whole home and be religeous about it....and I'd be very scared to use a chemical everyday on any pet....

If you noticed you itch too - it must be something in the home and that's where it becomes alot of work. You hate to see your dog suffering and will need to get a handle on this quickly....Some 'mites' live UNDER under the skin and cause misery.....

you don't have to have an unclean envoirnment to have a problem like this but you will need to be pro-active and find out what exactly is going on and take it from there....ALL THE BEST ! I'd hate to be in your shoes and I hope your little guy will be ok

my grandma is super neurotically clean lolll and her dog came from breeder with scabies and my grandma got scabies too so she had to go to the doctor and get a special lotion and she had to wash everything in hot water constantly until it was gone. She went the route of having him dipped which i would not do but her vet is old school and he was a bigger yorkie as well. He had to be dipped 2 or three times to get rid of it. I personally think from everything i have read that revolution is the safest and best way to treat scabies.

do they have dermatologists there in china as i would think they would have specialists there as well if so i would just go to a dermatologist.

The holistic vet we saw does chinese medicine and he was the one that put dd on revolution to rule out scabies

here is the book he wrote

Amazon.com: Healing Pets with Nature's Miracle Cures (9780970967848): Henry Pasternak: Books

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by Yorkiedaze

Home cooking is the best and safest way to feed. Ever stop to think about what dogs ate before someone decided to take dead animals from farms, labs, vets., and road kill since they are free, and make some type of nasty brown dried things called dog food for profit? Dogs lived a much longer and healthier life when eating real food. Now our companion animals are plagued with cancers and other serious medical problems that are in epidemic proportions due to dog food, flea and tic meds and over inoculating.
These things are not government regulated. Ever wonder why the rendering plants won't let you come in? You don't even know what the heck your animals are eating when you buy commercial pet foods. How can anyone say pet food is better than real food? Where is it written?
Maybe this is another good time to post this information.

Closer Look At A Rendering Plant

Dead Cats And Dogs Used To Make Pet Food

The Dark Side of Recycling

there are a couple good books too

foods pets die for and protect your pet- here is a link to them

Amazon.com: foods pets die for: Books

i have been a big chicken about home cooking myself and the most important thing is making sure bone meal (calcium) and multi vitamin

there is another site by ucdavis although i am not 100% sold on it even though ucdavis is a vet school that specializes in animal nutrition

www.balanaceit.com

another person that many people have had great success with is susan davis and she does phone consults

Holistic Veterinarian Pet Nutritionist Holistic Pet Care

[kjc]

I think the OP stated she's feeding Purina supplemented with people foods. 60% Purina/40% other foods will provide enough nutrients and vitamins that additional supplementation shouldn't be needed. The OP stated too that the puppy was eating well and has since on some weight.

[kjc]

Originally Posted by Ellie May

It's worth a try this way, but it seems that vets prefer to do another after two weeks. I guess it depends on the vet...

Yes, and as I lost track of time, my dog started itching right before the 3 weeks were up, so it may depend on the scabies too. If the pup starts itching before the reapplication date, inform your vet. He/she may move the date up to avoid the puppy tearing himself up again.

Originally Posted by capt_noonie

Oh I can't win on this thread! LOL I guess maybe I should just quit for now.

Oh no! Don't leave! You've given us a bunch of stuff to talk about! Hey, didn't I read a thread where you mentioned you were Chinese? But don't speak the language? But your Mom does? Maybe she could translate?

[capt_noonie]

Originally Posted by kjc

Oh no! Don't leave! You've given us a bunch of stuff to talk about! Hey, didn't I read a thread where you mentioned you were Chinese? But don't speak the language? But your Mom does? Maybe she could translate?

I'm still here. Reading, just not giving out any more advice. Leaving it to the pros who know better. I think I've gotten people confused, I know I confused myself. Oh well. Anyway, yes I am chinese, I can understand it, but can't really speak it. But once it comes to medical terms and such, there's no way I would be able to understand. I wouldn't ask my mom, she's a bit of a loon.

[kjc]

Originally Posted by capt_noonie

I'm still here. Reading, just not giving out any more advice. Leaving it to the pros who know better. I think I've gotten people confused, I know I confused myself. Oh well. Anyway, yes I am chinese, I can understand it, but can't really speak it. But once it comes to medical terms and such, there's no way I would be able to understand. I wouldn't ask my mom, she's a bit of a loon.

Hey, really, we've all pulled up outdated info when researching topics and posted it, so don't feel bad. You are one of the most helpful, caring, interesting posters here on YT. You always have a unique perspective on things, and an uncanny ability to find humor in anything you take an interest in. I've lost count of the number of keyboards I've had to replace due to your little quips added on at the end of a very serious topic discussion. Now, I try to remember to swallow before I reach the end, but you still get me totally off guard!

Also, you can see the difference in the current info floating around on scabies. Some are still following outdated methods and beliefs, and we each think our treatment is the most current, or most effective. This is how bad it is: My vet diagnosed scabies on me! My doctor just shrugged it off the week before! I called my MD back and told her my vet said def scabies, and she called in a script for me. I had it around my waist, about 3 inches long, 1 inch wide band. Itched profusely around 4 pm everyday, and it travelled around my waist twice before I went to the doctor. Tried Pine-Sol, Bleach (straight), and anything else I could get my hands on. Maybe there's slightly different strains, depending on where one lives, that respond differently. I remember getting it as a child, from pet hamsters and mice, who got it from overcrowded conditions in the pet stores. (This was a very, very long time ago)
I have a large garden area in the yard now, and use minimal to none insecticide sprays (try to stay holistic/green for safety's sake) so all too often I come in with no-see-ums itchy things. I get in the shower, and I use cat flea/tick/lice shampoo all over for initial knockdown of the bugs (contains same strength or less active ingredient pymethrins and it much cheaper than script), and rinse followed by human coconut extract body wash (natural bug repellant). Didn't have these problems when I lived in the city... never even saw a flea! Reasoning behind this: I worked at a grooming salon as a bather for 5 months and had my hands in insectidal dog and cat shampoos from 9-5 with no known ill effects, so cat shampoo with natural pymethrins should be harmless too.

Then we have the zebraskeeters (daytime black and white mosquitos) that carry West Nile Virus and/or Heartworm... and I witnessed a flock of them hovering near the tree (where my dogs hang out in the summertime) but this was winter, snow on the ground, 17 degrees Fahreinheit. Plus we live right off the Chesapeake Bay, so everything drains into it and we have to be very careful about that.

Not to mention the Cuterebras... oh so nasty fly larvae. Normally deposited on rabbits and small mammals, the buttheads mistook my Yorkie 2 years in a row for a bunny. The flies don't bite, they just lay their eggs in fur, hatch out and follow the hair folicle up and burrow into the skin, then basically feed on the rabbit or dog from the inside out (usually just under the skin though). First time I reached up to pet my guy behind the ears and felt wetness: yuck. Turned on the light and saw blood and drainage: yuck. Found hole like an abcess... but no odor or puss, then saw worm like creature stick it's head out of the hole and ducked back in! Almost vomited on that one. Composed myself, found my forceps, and set about removing the beast, only to learn later at the vets that if they are crushed or broken during the removal process, they release toxins into your pet that can cause immediate, severe, acute anaphylactic shock and death! Good thing: wound heals up in days with no antibiotics required.

How did I get here? IDK...Hope you feel better.... keep posting...give Uni hugs and kisses... I need sleep Say Hey! to loony mom! Old people need love too!