New Puppy, Just noticed eyes are not the same size!?! What should I do? - Page 2 - YorkieTalk.com Forums

Cha Cha · 03-08-2010, 01:06 PM

Someone may have suggested this already, but I will throw it out there. All ethics about breeding put aside.....You most likely have a contract that says exchange of a puppy not your money back. So, can you or would you be in a position to ask the breeder for a new healthy puppy and keep this one too. The breeder will most likely euthanize her if you send her back, so it is a win win for you and the puppy. But, you are obviously also entitled to a healthy puppy.

ladyjane · 03-08-2010, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Cha Cha

Someone may have suggested this already, but I will throw it out there. All ethics about breeding put aside.....You most likely have a contract that says exchange of a puppy not your money back. So, can you or would you be in a position to ask the breeder for a new healthy puppy and keep this one too. The breeder will most likely euthanize her if you send her back, so it is a win win for you and the puppy. But, you are obviously also entitled to a healthy puppy.

How is this a win win for that puppy?

Ladymom · 03-08-2010, 01:22 PM

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How is this a win win for that puppy?

The only "win" for this puppy will to be in a forever home that is financially and emotionally committed to treating her KCS for her lifetime.

Cha Cha · 03-08-2010, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ladyjane

How is this a win win for that puppy?

If she sends the puppy back the breeder will likely euthanize it or resell it to someone who will go through the same thing the OP already has. I don't know anything about the eye issue, so if euthansia is the only option for this condition, obviously is not a win win. But if this person can give it the medical attention it needs and get a healthy puppy as she deserves, then it is the best outcome for an already sketchy situation. I was just throwing the option out there.

lillymae · 03-08-2010, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ladymom

The only "win" for this puppy will to be in a forever home that is financially and emotionally committed to treating her KCS for her lifetime.

I'm wondering if both eyes are severe or just the one. If so would opting for removal of that eye be so bad ? I have rescued a couple of very young dogs with severe glaucoma and tried all treatments to no avail. Eventually the eye had to be removed in one dog and both eyes in the other and they did perfectly fine. Just a thought.

ladyjane · 03-08-2010, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Cha Cha

If she sends the puppy back the breeder will likely euthanize it or resell it to someone who will go through the same thing the OP already has. I don't know anything about the eye issue, so if euthansia is the only option for this condition, obviously is not a win win. But if this person can give it the medical attention it needs and get a healthy puppy as she deserves, then it is the best outcome for an already sketchy situation. I was just throwing the option out there.

This condition is not a reason for euthanasia.

The best outcome is for the puppy to go to someone who places more value on the pup than on the money it could possibly garner by using it for breeding.

Ladymom · 03-08-2010, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by lillymae

I'm wondering if both eyes are severe or just the one. If so would opting for removal of that eye be so bad ? I have rescued a couple of very young dogs with severe glaucoma and tried all treatments to no avail. Eventually the eye had to be removed in one dog and both eyes in the other and they did perfectly fine. Just a thought.

Glaucoma is very painful so removing the eye is necessary. KCS can be managed with artificial tears and diligent attention to eyelid hygiene as the area tends to be chronically inflamed (Blepharitis) from the thick discharge. I have both an eyelid scrub and a gel cleanser for Lady plus I wash her face every morning. With good hygiene and artificial tears 6 times a day, it can be managed with minimum discomfort.

This puppy just needs someone who will commit to taking care of her and possibly getting parotid duct surgery.

ladyjane · 03-08-2010, 02:12 PM

OMG no...removal of the eye would not be necessary. But...I see people removing legs so that they can avoid paying to fix them.

Cha Cha · 03-08-2010, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ladyjane

This condition is not a reason for euthanasia.

The best outcome is for the puppy to go to someone who places more value on the pup than on the money it could possibly garner by using it for breeding.

I agree with you, but the OP was asking if it would affect puppies if she used her for breeding. So, she is asking and seeking information, as so many don't. I applaud her for that and give her the benefit that she will take the advice given and not breed this babe.

ladyjane · 03-08-2010, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Cha Cha

I agree with you, but the OP was asking if it would affect puppies if she used her for breeding. So, she is asking and seeking information, as so many don't. I applaud her for that and give her the benefit that she will take the advice given and not breed this babe.

My response had more to do with the comment about euthanasia being an option.

I realize she only wanted her for breeding.

My hope is that someone will get this poor little puppy and love it.

And, honestly, I DO hope she reads that thread that was posted about breeding. I have a strong feeling she has not educated herself about breeding.

lillymae · 03-08-2010, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ladyjane

My response had more to do with the comment about euthanasia being an option.

I realize she only wanted her for breeding.

My hope is that someone will get this poor little puppy and love it.

And, honestly, I DO hope she reads that thread that was posted about breeding. I have a strong feeling she has not educated herself about breeding.

I agree, this absolutely is not a reason for euth. I'm worried if the pup is returned that could be the end result.

Ladymom · 03-08-2010, 07:47 PM

Another member who is dealing with the same congenital dry eye just got an estimate of $2,000 from the University of Tennessee to do the parotid duct surgery.

IMO, the ethical thing to do would be for the breeder to get this surgery done, then place this puppy in a very carefully selected home for no charge since monitoring/treating this condition will be lifelong. Reputable breeders take responsibility for the puppies they produce. Anyone who breeds should set money aside to properly care for any special needs puppies they produce.

KCS should not be a death sentence. My 14.5 year old Lady has been living with it for 4 years. Hers is a result of nerve damage from being diabetic for almost eight years, not congenital. I am fanatical about her eye exams, artificial tears and eyelid cleansing, and her vision is still perfect - no scar tissue. She's had two eye ulcers and one infection in the 4 years. It's not cheap, but definitely manageable.

It's just a matter of finding an owner who will commit to this puppy's care.

Elegance · 03-09-2010, 09:40 PM

I remember seeing this pup for sale.. Im sorry you dealt with a dishonest person and I hope that you decide to spay this girl so this problem doesn't occur again

red98vett · 03-10-2010, 05:17 AM

poor little girl - that sounds painful.....

I don't know how to say this and please take it the way I hope it comes across...but eye problem aside I hope you re-think breeding this little female !!

In all honesty I couldn't tell she WAS a parti (yorkie) and I'm sorry the breeder took you.... but since you have her now....maybe step back on the breeding issue until you know what you're facing ?

yorkielady06 · 03-10-2010, 06:28 PM

To the OP...we have not heard back from you...Have you contacted the breeder for a refund?

03-08-2010, 01:06 PM	#16
Cha Cha Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Where the deer and the antelope play Posts: 7,069	Someone may have suggested this already, but I will throw it out there. All ethics about breeding put aside.....You most likely have a contract that says exchange of a puppy not your money back. So, can you or would you be in a position to ask the breeder for a new healthy puppy and keep this one too. The breeder will most likely euthanize her if you send her back, so it is a win win for you and the puppy. But, you are obviously also entitled to a healthy puppy. __________________ Shelly and the girls Moka Mylee

03-08-2010, 02:12 PM	#23
ladyjane Resident Yorkie Nut Donating YT 20K Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 27,451	OMG no...removal of the eye would not be necessary. But...I see people removing legs so that they can avoid paying to fix them. __________________ CLOUD NINE BEDS--YORKIE HAVEN RESCUE MY ETSY SHOP

03-08-2010, 07:47 PM	#27
Ladymom Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 8,317	Another member who is dealing with the same congenital dry eye just got an estimate of $2,000 from the University of Tennessee to do the parotid duct surgery. IMO, the ethical thing to do would be for the breeder to get this surgery done, then place this puppy in a very carefully selected home for no charge since monitoring/treating this condition will be lifelong. Reputable breeders take responsibility for the puppies they produce. Anyone who breeds should set money aside to properly care for any special needs puppies they produce. KCS should not be a death sentence. My 14.5 year old Lady has been living with it for 4 years. Hers is a result of nerve damage from being diabetic for almost eight years, not congenital. I am fanatical about her eye exams, artificial tears and eyelid cleansing, and her vision is still perfect - no scar tissue. She's had two eye ulcers and one infection in the 4 years. It's not cheap, but definitely manageable. It's just a matter of finding an owner who will commit to this puppy's care. __________________ http://www.myladysdogbows.com/ http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref...6213341?ref=nf

03-10-2010, 05:17 AM	#29
red98vett Yorkie Kisses are the Best! Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Houston TX Posts: 33,590 Blog Entries: 1	poor little girl - that sounds painful..... I don't know how to say this and please take it the way I hope it comes across...but eye problem aside I hope you re-think breeding this little female !! In all honesty I couldn't tell she WAS a parti (yorkie) and I'm sorry the breeder took you.... but since you have her now....maybe step back on the breeding issue until you know what you're facing ? __________________ Villette, Chanel & Cheri www.DesignsByVillette.net Custom Address Labels and Note Cards using YOUR Photos! Just Click HERE!

03-09-2010, 09:40 PM	#28
Elegance Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Happy Land Cheese Posts: 122 Blog Entries: 1	I remember seeing this pup for sale.. Im sorry you dealt with a dishonest person and I hope that you decide to spay this girl so this problem doesn't occur again

03-10-2010, 06:28 PM	#30
yorkielady06 YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Up North Posts: 808	To the OP...we have not heard back from you...Have you contacted the breeder for a refund?