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dwerten 02-03-2010 09:04 PM
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Vestibular Disease in Dogs and Cats

vestibular has thyroid issues tied to it
look under

peripheral vestibular syndrome

it says underactive thyroid

mly 02-04-2010 10:19 PM
So I've been giving Bella lactalous and clavamox for almost a week now and there's been no difference..maybe even worst. Would you say it's safe to stop it until I see the neurologist?

dwerten 02-04-2010 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by mly (Post 2988521)
So I've been giving Bella lactalous and clavamox for almost a week now and there's been no difference..maybe even worst. Would you say it's safe to stop it until I see the neurologist?
If it was my dog and she is getting worse not better I would as i have an mvd dog with same numbers as yours and she is not on any of that :( Did you call dr centers to discuss your case as she will do it for free someone on here said - worth a phone call until you get to neurologist -keep in mind she is doing a study on this stuff

mly 02-04-2010 11:08 PM
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If it was my dog and she is getting worse not better I would as i have an mvd dog with same numbers as yours and she is not on any of that :( Did you call dr centers to discuss your case as she will do it for free someone on here said - worth a phone call until you get to neurologist -keep in mind she is doing a study on this stuff

That's what the husband thought as well. We're traveling to Fresno, CA (about 7-8 hours) tomorrow and since lactalous is a form of laxative, I don't think she'll make it in the car. I haven't called Dr. Centers either. It's been a busy and stressed out week for me. I wouldn't know what to ask her since she would actually have to see my dog to tell me things about her. I don't know.

I'm also worried since I'm attending a wedding this weekend in Fresno and I'll have to leave her all by herself in the hotel. So many things to do.:(

mly 02-04-2010 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by dwerten (Post 2988551)
If it was my dog and she is getting worse not better I would as i have an mvd dog with same numbers as yours and she is not on any of that :( Did you call dr centers to discuss your case as she will do it for free someone on here said - worth a phone call until you get to neurologist -keep in mind she is doing a study on this stuff
Oh I also wanted to know, is your mvd dog on l/d diet? I wanted to know if I should stick with that also or maybe just a low protein dry food?

dwerten 02-05-2010 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by mly (Post 2988588)
That's what the husband thought as well. We're traveling to Fresno, CA (about 7-8 hours) tomorrow and since lactalous is a form of laxative, I don't think she'll make it in the car. I haven't called Dr. Centers either. It's been a busy and stressed out week for me. I wouldn't know what to ask her since she would actually have to see my dog to tell me things about her. I don't know.

I'm also worried since I'm attending a wedding this weekend in Fresno and I'll have to leave her all by herself in the hotel. So many things to do.:(
she does not have to see dog she will do consult on phone and you can email her videos i am sure she has email and you can scan and email her tests or fax - I would do this just as a second opinion on the clavamox and lactulose

dwerten 02-05-2010 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by mly (Post 2988590)
Oh I also wanted to know, is your mvd dog on l/d diet? I wanted to know if I should stick with that also or maybe just a low protein dry food?
my dog is on a 18% protein diet and 8% fat it is purina ha a vet food so with her situation i would stay 18-22% protein - what was percentage in her previous food? if you switch back go very slowly but if she will eat the L/D i might keep her on that - if not eating it then depending on protein of previous food you tell me I will advise. I think this is swelling on brain due to neurological and she will need steroids before you see improvement on that head tilt or this is vestibular - those are my guesses but not a vet but that is my gut feeling on this after reading alot on liver disease since my dog has it and watching liver disease videos.

What did olga say about the videos as she has fostered alot of mvd/liver shunt dogs?

dwerten 02-05-2010 06:19 AM
also i would not leave her alone in a strange place with no one in room right now with her health being so fragile. I would recommend taking a family member with you she likes and have them stay with her while you are at the wedding

oh and i called my friend with AAI dog as she went through all the neurological testing for kiara, aai, gme, etc and she said the cry and laying on belly her guess is it was a seizure :(

Is your dog having any pain in the neck area like she is sensitive to touch in neck area as that is real important to know as well?

dwerten 02-05-2010 06:22 AM
Did your vet ever xray her neck area?

ladyjane 02-05-2010 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by mly (Post 2988521)
So I've been giving Bella lactalous and clavamox for almost a week now and there's been no difference..maybe even worst. Would you say it's safe to stop it until I see the neurologist?
I would call the vet who prescribed this for her and discuss it with him/her.

I am sorry she is having such a hard time.

dwerten 02-05-2010 07:10 AM
Prior to head tilt were ears cleaned at a groomers or plucked or anything like that ? any ear infections prior?

wemple2 02-05-2010 06:56 PM
Did Bella have a thyroid panel done, simple and reasonably priced...you should have this checked. Prayers to you all...waiting to hear what the neurologist says. Remember to keep her calm, no jumping or running okay? My concern is her neck...keep her safe from harm, do not leave her alone.

dwerten 02-05-2010 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by wemple2 (Post 2990017)
Did Bella have a thyroid panel done, simple and reasonably priced...you should have this checked. Prayers to you all...waiting to hear what the neurologist says. Remember to keep her calm, no jumping or running okay? My concern is her neck...keep her safe from harm, do not leave her alone.
yeah i wanted her to get the 6 panel thyroid with bile acids :( to rule it out but do not think vet did it sadly

mly 02-05-2010 08:54 PM
The vet didn't do anything on the thyroid, but I'm going to mention that to the neurologist nor did they xray her neck. I felt like they were leaving out alot of things. When I first took Bella in, I mentioned I was scared she might have had a stroke because even now, looking at the symptoms, they also add up. Well, all the vet said was that she was too young to have a stroke and a 1% chance of having it. Is there any way to show if she did though?

Olga sent me an email a couple days ago with her number if I wanted to call and for me to have Bella's bloodwork with me. That was when I didn't have it yet and it's been crazy for me since then so I had no time to call.

I've also been feeling Bella around the neck, back, legs..basically everywhere to see if she had pain but there was no response from her.

Bella doesn't really have hair in her ears so she doesn't get it pluck and I don't remember the last time I cleaned her ears. No ear infections or anything before the head tilt (that I know of).

dwerten 02-06-2010 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by mly (Post 2990229)
The vet didn't do anything on the thyroid, but I'm going to mention that to the neurologist nor did they xray her neck. I felt like they were leaving out alot of things. When I first took Bella in, I mentioned I was scared she might have had a stroke because even now, looking at the symptoms, they also add up. Well, all the vet said was that she was too young to have a stroke and a 1% chance of having it. Is there any way to show if she did though?

Olga sent me an email a couple days ago with her number if I wanted to call and for me to have Bella's bloodwork with me. That was when I didn't have it yet and it's been crazy for me since then so I had no time to call.

I've also been feeling Bella around the neck, back, legs..basically everywhere to see if she had pain but there was no response from her.

Bella doesn't really have hair in her ears so she doesn't get it pluck and I don't remember the last time I cleaned her ears. No ear infections or anything before the head tilt (that I know of).
ok great so no neck pain means probably not AAI then as they will have alot ot neck pain

call olga she researches alot and talk to her about blood work - did you ever get a chance to call dr centers?


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