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05-06-2009, 01:52 PM | #16 |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Schaumburg, IL USA
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| I'd better talk to my vet. There is no way that big pill is going down my 3lb Yorkie's throat without crushing it! Thanks for the advice. |
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05-06-2009, 01:53 PM | #17 | |
And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI
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I shove them down a Yorkie throat daily. You may be able to use Vetri DMG (liquid).
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05-07-2009, 04:44 AM | #18 |
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| Yes, it is denosyl. It is a orange-coated tablet a bit larger than a regular bayer aspirin. If I quartered it, I could probably shove the quartered pieces down his throat but I don't want to have to do that 4 times in a row. I did check with the vet and he said that as long as I am crushing the tablet and using it immediately it would not be losing its potency. I mix it in enough water to fit a small syringe and it goes right down. I just hope it helps so he can get his extra teeth removed and the rest cleaned up. Thanks for all the help! |
05-07-2009, 05:22 AM | #19 | |
And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI
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I have the insert from Ellie's box of Denosyl right here and under "Administration of Nutritional Supplement" it says: "Because the tablet must be kept intact to prevent destruction by stomach acid, administration range is based on the nearest whole tablet." Stomach acid would destroy it if it is crushed. It also shouldn't be given with food unless you have to use one small bite to get it down.
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05-07-2009, 06:20 AM | #20 | |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chattanooga,Tn
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The vet said if I had to give it with food, use very, very little. The tablets are enteric coated and I'm assuming that's to help with the tummy upset. The tabs are larger than an adult aspirin, so the pill gun really helps. This is day 3 for Freddie. He likes this less and less. Stored that pill (which I thought was down his throat) is his mouth somewhere, like a little chipmunk, then spit it out 10 minutes later ! Needless to say, had to repeat the whole thing. Sure wish I could dissolve it or crush it to make it easier for him, but I can't. Thanks for all your responses. Patricia | |
05-07-2009, 07:42 AM | #21 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Palm Beach
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| Capone just had the same thing today. Elevated enzyme levels specifically the ALT. My Vet is running a Bile Acids test today. He seemed very pesimistic that the Bile Acid test would be ok, given the ALT was specifically high around 260. I am moving and I thought maybe the little guy was stressed. But my vet said that is very unlikely it would cause the ALT levels to be high. He would not go into telling me anything of what could cause it other than the liver NOT functioning. I am really scared right now, and would like other opinions? I find out the Bile Acid Test at 3 today. Does anyone have any experience about this? |
05-07-2009, 07:44 AM | #22 | |
And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI
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Your vet is right though. All a bile acids test can do is tell you if the liver is having a functioning problem. It won't diagnose a problem. Liver shunt and MVD is very common in Yorkies though, so that is always the first thought.
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05-07-2009, 07:55 AM | #23 | |
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05-07-2009, 08:00 AM | #24 | |
And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI
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They can acquire shunts later on also. MVD or microvascular dysplasia is microscopic, inoperable shunting throughout the liver.
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05-07-2009, 09:09 AM | #25 | |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chattanooga,Tn
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I'm wondering what the end result will be. If enzymes don't improve, and an ultrasound and biopsy is performed, what will it show? If the enzymes do improve, then will he stay on this med from now on, or will it be a diet controlled thing? I guess I'm getting ahead of things but I'm curious as to the outcome of all of this. Patricia | |
05-07-2009, 09:32 AM | #26 | |
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05-07-2009, 10:16 AM | #27 | |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Palm Beach
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| Patricia, Capone will be 4 on May 20th. He had the liver shunt test done when he was a puppy, because he was suffering from seizures they could never explain. He grew out of them thank the Lord! I am so sorry to here about your little guy. They are performing the BAT test today. I do not know what to do from there if they tell me the liver is not functioning properly. I don't have the money to afford an untrasound right now. Capone doesn't have any symptoms though. He eats, drinks, plays, and his urine and stool are all NORMAL looking and nothing unsual. Do you know anymore about results on BAT test and what they mean?? Thanks -Janine Quote:
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05-07-2009, 10:32 AM | #28 |
Slave to My Rug-Rats Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Long Island
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| Try not to freak until you get the BAT results. A u/s isn't always necessary - Just let us the know the results of the BAT and what your Vet has to say, and we will chime in with our experiences to help guide you in the right direction |
05-07-2009, 10:40 AM | #29 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Palm Beach
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| Thanks!! I appreciate what a wonderful community and resource all of you are!! ( And Capone does too) |
05-07-2009, 10:54 AM | #30 | |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chattanooga,Tn
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Janine, Ellie May and TLC know way more than I on the tests results. It's a wait and see thing. Freddie shows absolutely no symtoms of any kind. I read that dogs are sometimes kept on maintenance meds, i.e., one every other day, just for the aide in liver function. Hope this helps. I'm trying not to freak out. I have already learned so much from this community. I'm grateful. Patricia | |
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