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Old 03-23-2009, 06:10 PM   #241
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Michelle, I am so sorry. I hope the additional tests will give you some definitive answers, so you can get this turned around. She must be feeling pretty poorly to turn down the food.
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I am praying for you and Lacy. Keep us posted. Darla
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I have missed what was wrong with Lacy. Could you please tell me? I do hope she is feeling better soon.
So far she's Bern diagnosed with hepatic lipididis and diffuse small intestinal disease, but we don't know the cause. She's had her diet changed, is on tylosin and several supplements and getting vitamin B injections once a week. She's still having episodes of not eating and being sick though.

She did just eat a pretty good amount. So today she has eaten 2/3 of what she should be eating. She seems to be feeling a little better right now. Her slsymptons just kindof come and go
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Gosh...I thought Lacy was doing better. I hope and will pray that she improves. Wasn't she always a healthy little girl up until all this happened? Poor baby. Get well wishes to you, Lacy. Lots of kisses from us!
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Gosh...I thought Lacy was doing better. I hope and will pray that she improves. Wasn't she always a healthy little girl up until all this happened? Poor baby. Get well wishes to you, Lacy. Lots of kisses from us!
Yes she had always been really healthy. Had only had a uti and an eye infection before. And she does have luxating patellas and flea allergies in the summer. But other than that she was always healthy until last fall when she started these episodes of getting sick. I just want her to stay healthy and I'm worried it could progress to something more serious
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Yes she had always been really healthy. Had only had a uti and an eye infection before. And she does have luxating patellas and flea allergies in the summer. But other than that she was always healthy until last fall when she started these episodes of getting sick. I just want her to stay healthy and I'm worried it could progress to something more serious
Michelle i am so sorry Lacy is not feeling 100% yet!! poor baby girl and poor you!!!

we have gone through similar issues with Avie.. her liver was ok and her pancreas was ok! after a couple tests and a 2nd opinion with Dr. Jean Dodds.. we are pretty sure that it is a digestion intolerance.. (IBD maybe)
we knew that she couldn't handle protein that was too high in fat%.. so we had been feeding venison..which was good.. but the raw was still too much for her!
we are actually feeding her a limited ingredient diet of venison and sweet potato (so far so good, )
she is also on Tylosin..
we have her on DDS Plus probiotics!
we are starting her on the Bioliv (just to be safe) & the colostrum capsules, as well!

i hope Lacy feels better VERY SOON!! and that you get it all worked out... hugs!! xox.
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I'm sorry Avie has been sick. They've mentioned IBD with lacy too but the only way to get an exact diagnosis is a biopsy. I just hate to put her through that again and of course bills are really adding up. It's just so frustrating. I guess we will do the bloodwork and cortisol test and then go from there

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Michelle i am so sorry Lacy is not feeling 100% yet!! poor baby girl and poor you!!!

we have gone through similar issues with Avie.. her liver was ok and her pancreas was ok! after a couple tests and a 2nd opinion with Dr. Jean Dodds.. we are pretty sure that it is a digestion intolerance.. (IBD maybe)
we knew that she couldn't handle protein that was too high in fat%.. so we had been feeding venison..which was good.. but the raw was still too much for her!
we are actually feeding her a limited ingredient diet of venison and sweet potato (so far so good, )
she is also on Tylosin..
we have her on DDS Plus probiotics!
we are starting her on the Bioliv (just to be safe) & the colostrum capsules, as well!

i hope Lacy feels better VERY SOON!! and that you get it all worked out... hugs!! xox.
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Yes she had always been really healthy. Had only had a uti and an eye infection before. And she does have luxating patellas and flea allergies in the summer. But other than that she was always healthy until last fall when she started these episodes of getting sick. I just want her to stay healthy and I'm worried it could progress to something more serious
I am praying for your sweet baby. It is such a worry when they are sick. Hugs to you...I hope you get answers soon and can get her back to feeling good and enjoying life.
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I'm sorry Avie has been sick. They've mentioned IBD with lacy too but the only way to get an exact diagnosis is a biopsy. I just hate to put her through that again and of course bills are really adding up. It's just so frustrating. I guess we will do the bloodwork and cortisol test and then go from there
yep!! i agree!!! i don't want to do the biposy!
but since her other tests have come back ok! (& she seems to be doing good, so far with the diet!) we will seee!

i HOPE that you get it all squared away soon!! will be keeping you guys in our prayers and will check back for updates!!!
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What is Lacy's recipe?
What's the fat source and how much of it do you use?
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What is Lacy's recipe?
What's the fat source and how much of it do you use?
This is the daily amount

1.5oz salmon
1.5oz white fish
1 cup potato (I used white but last night I made a new batch with sweet)
1/3 cup steamed pureed veggies (green beans mostly - used some carrots last time too)

In morning she gets 1/2 pump eicosaderm (1000mg fish oil)
In evening she gets 1/4tsp olive oil
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This is the daily amount

1.5oz salmon
1.5oz white fish
1 cup potato (I used white but last night I made a new batch with sweet)
1/3 cup steamed pureed veggies (green beans mostly - used some carrots last time too)

In morning she gets 1/2 pump eicosaderm (1000mg fish oil)
In evening she gets 1/4tsp olive oil
Wow, that is quite low in fat (which is obviously good right now).
I find it kind of odd that she is still having off days with a recipe change and Tylan.

If the intestinal problem is causing this, has your vet mentioned prednisolone? Of course this isn't going to do her liver issue any favors.

Isn't all fat pulled in hyperlipidosis cases sometims? And then medium chain triglycerides are added in and then regular fat? Maybe I'm thinking of something else.

You can always play with the fiber amount. Ellie's vet just eliminated veggies from E's diet and prefers sweet potatoes for the fiber. She was getting mixed veggies before (like green beans and carrots) but evidently she likes doing it this way with gi issues.

Poor girl.
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I don't know. It is strange. It is low in fat and all the vets have said the omega 3s will be good fats for her condition. The only thing I can think of if it's the food is that maybe she's allergic to something but most dogs aren't allergic to those ingredients. The camylobacter and clostridium should be killed off by the tylan, but those bacteria would moreso cause diarrhea and her problem is more anorexia and vomitting.

They haven't mentioned prednisone yet. I hope she won't need that because it can cause other health issues in the future. I've really been wondering about the Addisons disease... I know it's probably doubtful and hopefully not the case but a lot of symptoms could make sense

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Wow, that is quite low in fat (which is obviously good right now).
I find it kind of odd that she is still having off days with a recipe change and Tylan.

If the intestinal problem is causing this, has your vet mentioned prednisolone? Of course this isn't going to do her liver issue any favors.

Isn't all fat pulled in hyperlipidosis cases sometims? And then medium chain triglycerides are added in and then regular fat? Maybe I'm thinking of something else.

You can always play with the fiber amount. Ellie's vet just eliminated veggies from E's diet and prefers sweet potatoes for the fiber. She was getting mixed veggies before (like green beans and carrots) but evidently she likes doing it this way with gi issues.

Poor girl.
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Yeah, an allergy to those ingredients in highly unlikely.
An intolerance to something in the recipe is possible.
I think that sweet potatoes will be good but have my doubts that it will fix the problem.

It seems like she really needs a biopsy but I wouldn't go there too fast either.
We are at the same spot with Ellie.

The omega 3s should be good.
How about Metronidazole? Tried that yet?

Prednisone is terrible stuff.

How are her sodium and potassium?
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This is the daily amount

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1 cup potato (I used white but last night I made a new batch with sweet)
1/3 cup steamed pureed veggies (green beans mostly - used some carrots last time too)

In morning she gets 1/2 pump eicosaderm (1000mg fish oil)
In evening she gets 1/4tsp olive oil
Michelle.. i have been told that sometimes WHITE potato, will trigger dogs with IBD type issues.. sometimes it is too much for them! (we have Avie on the sweet potato, like i mentioned before) SO, maybe this will help her some....

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