Layla's lycopase enzymes through the roof

[marcerella02]

Originally Posted by dwerten

no fish is not high in fat -- salmon is higher in that but not cod -- white fish -but wait and see but I do not think you have anything to worry about -- they probably sent out for cpli and tli test.

My dee dee has high lipase on all her tests so that is why i think you need to do the pre and post bile acids. Amylase and lipase both being high is supposedly tied to pancreas but like i said before not really a concern for most -- lipase alone high then i would be checking the liver.

Let us know how it all comes back but I think it is because yorkie breed tends to have more fat in their blood as both my yorkies tend to be high on that and my maltese is not.

Trust me you know when they have pancreatitis as they do not stop vomitting

I still do not like the beef -- how about xtra lean ground turkey ask vet as beef is too high in fat for a dog they may think has a mild underlying pancreas situation.

No treats just stick to basics as pancreatitis is very costly and yorkies are prone and after spending 10k I would not take any chances again with a yorkie

you have been so helpful thank you!

When i was talking to the vet tech on the phone she was wondering if it could indicate liver, but she looked at her paper work and said all her liver enzymes came back normal, although i know that is not a sure wya to tell, however, i'd imagine they would be elevated a bit if it was the liver... should all of this come back normal... we'll be doing a BAT. I had planned to do one this week just because it was soemthing i though wouldn't hurt (this was before her test results came back high) and then put it off until we knew what was going on...

Layla also can't have turkey... allergic to that aswell. Right now she is eating oatmeal, scrambled egg and yogurt. And then beef and veggies for supper.

Also, if it was her liver, wouldn't she be puking after her meals? Layla's diet is 90% protein, and she has never thrown up after eating, so i've never been worried abotu her liver.. but again. i'll be doing the BAT eventually.

She is only eating treats right now that have extremely low fat- i got some at a local store that are made from sweet potato and carrot- and they have no fat

[ellie81]

Marci, I'm just seeing this. I'm sorry the test results showed that. I don't know much about all this, but I'm sure you'll make sure she gets better soon. You're an awesome yorkie mom!!!! I'll be praying for Layla and you! Hugs!

[Ellie May]

Originally Posted by marcerella02

you have been so helpful thank you!

When i was talking to the vet tech on the phone she was wondering if it could indicate liver, but she looked at her paper work and said all her liver enzymes came back normal, although i know that is not a sure wya to tell, however, i'd imagine they would be elevated a bit if it was the liver... should all of this come back normal... we'll be doing a BAT. I had planned to do one this week just because it was soemthing i though wouldn't hurt (this was before her test results came back high) and then put it off until we knew what was going on...

Layla also can't have turkey... allergic to that aswell. Right now she is eating oatmeal, scrambled egg and yogurt. And then beef and veggies for supper.

Also, if it was her liver, wouldn't she be puking after her meals? Layla's diet is 90% protein, and she has never thrown up after eating, so i've never been worried abotu her liver.. but again. i'll be doing the BAT eventually.

She is only eating treats right now that have extremely low fat- i got some at a local store that are made from sweet potato and carrot- and they have no fat

Allergic to turkey too???
Aren't eggs high in fat compared to other protein?
There is about 2.5 grams of fat per ounce and if my math is correct, chicken contains about .88 grams per ounce. I used to give Ellie egg all the time but really am trying not to anymore because of this. I haven't been able to talk to her nutritionist about it yet... Please check my math on this...I could be wrong.

I would not count on the liver enzymes being elevated if it is the liver but you have been feeding a lot of protein and I'd think she would've started showing symptoms if the liver was an issue. Then again, we can't be sure. Not all dogs with liver disease will throw up after eating. What is the vet thinking it could be if it isn't pancreatitis?

[marcerella02]

Originally Posted by Ellie May

Allergic to turkey too???
Aren't eggs high in fat compared to other protein?
There is about 2.5 grams of fat per ounce and if my math is correct, chicken contains about .88 grams per ounce. I used to give Ellie egg all the time but really am trying not to anymore because of this. I haven't been able to talk to her nutritionist about it yet... Please check my math on this...I could be wrong.

I would not count on the liver enzymes being elevated if it is the liver but you have been feeding a lot of protein and I'd think she would've started showing symptoms if the liver was an issue. Then again, we can't be sure. Not all dogs with liver disease will throw up after eating. What is the vet thinking it could be if it isn't pancreatitis?

geeze... my options are really limited... she isn't getitng A LOT of egg.. just some... and she can't have chicken or turkey... and i'm avoiding fish at the moment yikes

the vet hasn't said yet... i havne't actually talked to HER .. just the vet techs.. i'm sure i'll know more later this week...

for now i just have to sitck with what i've got and what i've been feeding her until i know.... i guess...

[Suzy]

How about beans/legumes for protein while you're waiting? I know they still have some fat-not sure how much. Just an idea!

[Ellie May]

Tofu for a few days?

[Ladymom]

The condition is called hyperlipidaemia. It is hereditary in miniature Schnauzers.

Here is a great article:

Hyperlipidaemia - WSAVA 2003 Congress

[dwerten]

My dd has never vomitted, had head pressing, seizures or any of that and she had high post biles so she is on a low protein diet. It is something to be aware of for sure in a yorkie or maltese breed --

[marcerella02]

Originally Posted by Suzy

How about beans/legumes for protein while you're waiting? I know they still have some fat-not sure how much. Just an idea!

YES!!! but of course things are closed today.. but i'm going to have to go get some.. i'll have to puree the crap out of it because Lay won't eat it straight up...

[marcerella02]

Originally Posted by Ladymom

The condition is called hyperlipidaemia. It is hereditary in miniature Schnauzers.

Here is a great article:

Hyperlipidaemia - WSAVA 2003 Congress

That's really interesting.... thanks... i actually hope that is what is going on! The diet seems easy enough for me to make for her....

.... all this waiting..... my mind is on overdrive!

[marcerella02]

Originally Posted by Ellie May

Allergic to turkey too???
Aren't eggs high in fat compared to other protein?
There is about 2.5 grams of fat per ounce and if my math is correct, chicken contains about .88 grams per ounce. I used to give Ellie egg all the time but really am trying not to anymore because of this. I haven't been able to talk to her nutritionist about it yet... Please check my math on this...I could be wrong.

I would not count on the liver enzymes being elevated if it is the liver but you have been feeding a lot of protein and I'd think she would've started showing symptoms if the liver was an issue. Then again, we can't be sure. Not all dogs with liver disease will throw up after eating. What is the vet thinking it could be if it isn't pancreatitis?

I think if we do end up needing a fat reduced diet- i'll stick with the whites... i was reading up on them.... the fat (although there is not much) is in the yolk and the protein is in the white, so i might just buy egg whites. But like i said.. she doesn't get very much of it.

[TLC]

Please read up on feeding ONLY egg whites, as I do not think that is good to do (can't remember why though...)

Roxy has really no apparent symtoms of liver issues - ALL tests done were normal EXCEPT her BATs are very high So please don't rule it out...

...hoping for the BEST possible outcome.

How about Cottage Cheese - Friendship makes a Low Sodium flavor

[marcerella02]

Originally Posted by TLC

Please read up on feeding ONLY egg whites, as I do not think that is good to do (can't remember why though...)

Roxy has really no apparent symtoms of liver issues - ALL tests done were normal EXCEPT her BATs are very high So please don't rule it out...

...hoping for the BEST possible outcome.

How about Cottage Cheese - Friendship makes a Low Sodium flavor

oh thatnks for the egg white info... i feel like every avenue i try... i get a dead end... lol.. i'm going to stop even trying until i know what is going on

Layla is lactose intolerance.. lol.. of course!

[PANAMA69]

Oh Marce so sorry, I hope it get back under control soon

[dwerten]

Originally Posted by TLC

Please read up on feeding ONLY egg whites, as I do not think that is good to do (can't remember why though...)

Roxy has really no apparent symtoms of liver issues - ALL tests done were normal EXCEPT her BATs are very high So please don't rule it out...

...hoping for the BEST possible outcome.

How about Cottage Cheese - Friendship makes a Low Sodium flavor

i agree bats are the only true test for liver disease and picky eating is a sign of liver shunt