Oh God,What Have I Done?! (Long But Please Help)

[Wylie's Mom]

Hmmm, I don't understand why she's continuing and continuing to still vomit, this concerns me . Was blood work done?

Also, you mentioned the vet said she was exhibiting signs of pain (hence, the Rim.) - do you actually still think she is in pain? And, where?

[Beabble]

Originally Posted by chattiesmom

I am so very sorry that little Maggy May is not feeling well, on top of all of your family sickness right now. Gee whiz, when it rains it pours. I hope EVERYONE in your house and family gets better very soon - I'll keep you all in my thoughts and prayers .

Just a thought - did you happen to mention to the vet that you had moved Daisy into the house. I know that turtles (and other reptiles) carry salmonella - I wonder if she has contracted that from sweet Daisy?

Ya, I told the vet about that, I also let him know she's a box turtle and not a water turtle, I know water turtles cause a lot more problems with upper respitory problems. I NEVER let Maggy May around Daisy, she's in a huge tank that sits way up on a very long dresser we have with a top on it, so nothing can get in or out. I ALWAYS wash my hands with iodine, hand sanitizer and dish washing liquid that has bleach added to it after I touch Daisy and after I touch her dish to feed her. Call me crazy but I just want to make sure I have clean hands before I go touching Maggy or the other furbutts in the house. I even put all the furkids away in their kennels while I get Daisy her food cause I won't touch them until I've washed my hands. I don't take Daisy out and let her walk around the floors or anything. I change her water in her pool daily, I wash her dish daily and she has clean peat moss I purchased at the store to fill her tank with. Her enclosure inside as well as the one I have her in through the warmer months of the year are kept very clean. Heck, I even wash off the night crawlers before I put them in her dish for her. I went earlier this evening and got rice and boneless skinless chicken breast and trimmed any fat off of it, boiled it, rinsed it all really good and gave her some, so far she's kept it down and hasn't puked. I'm hoping and praying tomorrow will be a better day.

[chattiesmom]

Originally Posted by Beabble

Ya, I told the vet about that, I also let him know she's a box turtle and not a water turtle, I know water turtles cause a lot more problems with upper respitory problems. I NEVER let Maggy May around Daisy, she's in a huge tank that sits way up on a very long dresser we have with a top on it, so nothing can get in or out. I ALWAYS wash my hands with iodine, hand sanitizer and dish washing liquid that has bleach added to it after I touch Daisy and after I touch her dish to feed her. Call me crazy but I just want to make sure I have clean hands before I go touching Maggy or the other furbutts in the house. I even put all the furkids away in their kennels while I get Daisy her food cause I won't touch them until I've washed my hands. I don't take Daisy out and let her walk around the floors or anything. I change her water in her pool daily, I wash her dish daily and she has clean peat moss I purchased at the store to fill her tank with. Her enclosure inside as well as the one I have her in through the warmer months of the year are kept very clean. Heck, I even wash off the night crawlers before I put them in her dish for her. I went earlier this evening and got rice and boneless skinless chicken breast and trimmed any fat off of it, boiled it, rinsed it all really good and gave her some, so far she's kept it down and hasn't puked. I'm hoping and praying tomorrow will be a better day.

Tracy, it sounds like you are doing all you can do. Just relax and try not to worry - if you are worried Maggy May knows it. Part of the continuing problem might be she is worried about you. You know, she got better from the initial sickness but has worried herself sick over you worring about her being sick. Vicious cycle.

[Beabble]

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

Hmmm, I don't understand why she's continuing and continuing to still vomit, this concerns me . Was blood work done?

Also, you mentioned the vet said she was exhibiting signs of pain (hence, the Rim.) - do you actually still think she is in pain? And, where?

She vomits everytime I give her/her food. Obviously it's just to much for her lil tummy right now, so, I went and got skinless boneless chicken breast and rice earlier this evening and started out with a teaspoon of that. She kept it down and after about an hour, I gave her a bit more, then about an hour later, gave her a lil more. So far she's kept it down (thank God.) This evening her personality seems to be a bit more like herself, she actually wanted to play with me for a few. I won't let her play to much though cause I don't wanna push it and her end up vomiting again. No bloodwork was done at first, he wanted to try this first and see how she did, if she didn't start to improve after having had the meds, he said we'd do testing. As for her still seeming to be in pain now, no, I don't think she is, I mean, now she holds her ears up and not down, her face doesn't look so sad now and she doesn't whine when she's picked up. She did whine 3 times before I first took her to the vet (over a three day period) when she was picked up and I though perhaps the kids picked her up wrong or something, but then when she just started acting like she wasn't herself and didn't want to play or eat and kept her ears laid back down on her head and just wanted to lay on my lap, I knew something was wrong. She also growled at my husband when he tried to pick her up out of the bed with me the one night, I think it's cause her tummy hurt, cause she's never done that before. And when I was sitting here in my chair and had her on my lap, my leg would get sore and I'd have to stretch it, so, I'd put my hand under her tummy and try to gently move her and she would growl. So I'm thinking it was her tummy that was sore. She doesn't seem to be tender there anymore though, as I pick her up and move her around and she doesn't growl now. The doc said since she was having normal BM's it's not a blockage. I just hope things are better tomorrow.

[Beabble]

Originally Posted by chattiesmom

Tracy, it sounds like you are doing all you can do. Just relax and try not to worry - if you are worried Maggy May knows it. Part of the continuing problem might be she is worried about you. You know, she got better from the initial sickness but has worried herself sick over you worring about her being sick. Vicious cycle.

I really hope you're right and that she's better tomorrow. I try not to let her see me worry, but as in tune as I am with her, she's got to be just as in tune with me and no matter how hard I try to hide my worry or fears, I bet she can see it all over my face and in my body language just like I can read in her face and her body language when she doesn't feel good. I swear this lil one has worried me more than any furkid we've ever had. She's so tiny and I'm used to big dogs. When something goes wrong with her, it doesn't take as long for her to go down fast and I get so worked up and upset when things aren't right with her. I'm gonna try and just relax and as much as I can around her and hopefully she'll get better. With everything else going on with the skin kids and the family, it's hard at times though. I love this lil girl with all my heart and all I want is for her to be better.

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by Beabble

She vomits everytime I give her/her food. Obviously it's just to much for her lil tummy right now, so, I went and got skinless boneless chicken breast and rice earlier this evening and started out with a teaspoon of that. She kept it down and after about an hour, I gave her a bit more, then about an hour later, gave her a lil more. No bloodwork was done at first, he wanted to try this first and see how she did, if she didn't start to improve after having had the meds, he said we'd do testing. As for her still seeming to be in pain now, no, I don't think she is, I mean, now she holds her ears up and not down, her face doesn't look so sad now and she doesn't whine when she's picked up. She did whine 3 times before I first took her to the vet (over a three day period) when she was picked up and I though perhaps the kids picked her up wrong or something, but then when she just started acting like she wasn't herself and didn't want to play or eat and kept her ears laid back down on her head and just wanted to lay on my lap, I knew something was wrong. She also growled at my husband when he tried to pick her up out of the bed with me the one night, I think it's cause her tummy hurt, cause she's never done that before. And when I was sitting here in my chair and had her on my lap, my leg would get sore and I'd have to stretch it, so, I'd put my hand under her tummy and try to gently move her and she would growl. So I'm thinking it was her tummy that was sore. She doesn't seem to be tender there anymore though, as I pick her up and move her around and she doesn't growl now. The doc said since she was having normal BM's it's not a blockage. I just hope things are better tomorrow.

Gosh...it really does sound like she was in some real pain before (and maybe still is in some residual pain if she's still vomiting). Pain can cause vomiting, so now I'm wondering about that as a trigger. Really tough to say though since there has been the combo of pain, sickness, Rimadyl, possible other things. I almost think if it continues though, it might be worth taking her in again for bloodwork and to have the vet realllllly palpate her entire body very, very well to check for soreness, tenderness. This may be a dumb question - but could the turtle have bitten her?

[Betty'sMom]

You are having a really hard time this week. I hope little Maggy May feels better soon. It was somewhat encouraging that she ate the chicken and rice and hasn't gotten sick. Also, that she is acting more like herself. I was worried about the growling...especially since you said she has never done that before. Not even when she had any stomach problems in the past? Hopefully, like you said, it is just sore. I'll say a prayer for Maggy May and check back tomorrow. I hope she is back to normal by then.

[Beabble]

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

Gosh...it really does sound like she was in some real pain before (and maybe still is in some residual pain if she's still vomiting). Pain can cause vomiting, so now I'm wondering about that as a trigger. Really tough to say though since there has been the combo of pain, sickness, Rimadyl, possible other things. I almost think if it continues though, it might be worth taking her in again for bloodwork and to have the vet realllllly palpate her entire body very, very well to check for soreness, tenderness. This may be a dumb question - but could the turtle have bitten her?

Oh believe me, if she doesn't improve and starts back with vomiting, she's going back to the vet tomorrow and blood work will be done. Crossing my fingers and praying like crazy though that she's feeling better tomorrow. No, there's no way Daisy could have bitten her. Before I brought Daisy in the house, she was always outside in her fully enclosed pen I made her, the bottom part is all brick, (a brick enclosed wall) and then further up the sides is fencing. I'm the only one that has ever taken Maggy May outside to potty, play or anything, I won't let anyone else do it, but I don't take Maggy over to Daisy's outdoor pen. And before I brought Daisy in the house to her indoor enclosure, I already had everything set up and ready so all I had to do was carry Daisy in and put her in her enclosure in my room and then the top went right on. There's no way Daisy can get out and no way Maggy could get in, she can't reach it at all. Oh, and the doc did palpate her when I took her in, that's how he knew she was in pain cause she reacted. Oh how she makes me worry. I just want her to be get better and be ok.

[Beabble]

Originally Posted by Betty'sMom

You are having a really hard time this week. I hope little Maggy May feels better soon. It was somewhat encouraging that she ate the chicken and rice and hasn't gotten sick. Also, that she is acting more like herself. I was worried about the growling...especially since you said she has never done that before. Not even when she had any stomach problems in the past? Hopefully, like you said, it is just sore. I'll say a prayer for Maggy May and check back tomorrow. I hope she is back to normal by then.

Thank you so much Jeanne, I really appreciate it with all my heart. Nope, she never growled like that before when her tummy was sore, that was after she was spayed and gave me that scare when her incision came open, then she had vomiting and the runs after that to. I looked back through my posts on that and she had the rimadyl then as well, but only for two days. I'm praying to God I haven't hurt her by giving her the rimadyl. I don't know what I'd do without her, she's so precious to me in my life and, well, I don't even wanna go there or think about that. I'm so happy she's kept the chicken and rice down, if we can get through the day tomorrow with no vomiting, no blood or the runs, I'm sure we'll both feel so much better.

[Beabble]

Well, I'm waiting on the vet to call me back, he's in surgery all day today until 2:00 this afternoon, but the secretary said he does come out between times for questions and stuff and she'll talk to him and call me back soon as soon as she does. I gave Maggy May her pepcid this morning at 8:10, she hadn't eaten anything so she had an empty stomach, about 10 minutes later, I gave her some of the chicken and rice, at 8:35, she puked. The secretary said normally you should wait about 15 -20 minutes before you feed them anything after giving meds, so maybe I just fed her to soon and it made her sick. There was no blood in her vomit this time. She had a bowel movement this morning, it was formed and had no blood in it but there was a TOENAIL in it! My son had been in here a few days ago and trimmed his toenails and she obviously got one!! I'm now wondering if that's why I seen the blood in her vomit the other day. I let the secretary know this so she could tell the vet. I also asked if I should go ahead and start giving her the antibiotic (Baytril) again or if I should still hold off as directed by his stand in vet yesterday. She's only got one pepcid left, not sure if he wants to give me more for her or what. Soon as I hear back from the vet, I'll post and let you know what's going on. Going to wait another 20 minutes and try giving her a teaspoon of the chicken and rice again and see if she can hold it down, it'll have been an hour by then since she puked.

[Mom2BabyNatalie]

poor lil' baby girl..... Tracy, I emailed you to see how Maggy did with her last bit of food.... still vomiting?

We've been praying and praying that the docs will figure out what's causing all this and baby girl will be back to her sweet bouncy self!!!

Keep us posted.... *kisses to that fuzzy face* I know you must be mad with worry..... but she'll be okay, I just know it!!

[Beabble]

Well, the day didn't start off to great. I gave Maggy May her medicine this AM and then about 10 minutes later, she puked. I'm thinking I gave her the chicken and rice a bit to soon after I gave her/her med. Called the vet and let them know what was going on and awaited the call back from them. The doc was in surgeries till 2 so it was a while before they got back to me. In the meantime, I continued to give Maggy May a teaspoon of chicken and rice every hour or so. Poor girl hasn't had much to eat this past week, or couldn't keep it down rather. So, throughout the day, Maggy May has had 2 bowel movements, soft but not real soft, more on the formed side AND she has managed to keep her chicken and rice down!! VERY happy here! I called the vet back to let them know I had fed her since she vomited and she had kept it down and that she also had bowel movements and they were soft but formed. Doc wants her on the pepcid a bit longer to keep her tummy settled and said to continue what I'm presently doing. If anything changes or she starts to go downhill again, contact them right away. I'm feeling much better about her today since she's only vomited once, I think things are going to start looking up for her now. Thank you all so much for your concern, replies and prayers, I appreciate it more than I can say. If anything changes, I'll post and let ya know.

[Betty'sMom]

Originally Posted by Beabble

Well, the day didn't start off to great. I gave Maggy May her medicine this AM and then about 10 minutes later, she puked. I'm thinking I gave her the chicken and rice a bit to soon after I gave her/her med. Called the vet and let them know what was going on and awaited the call back from them. The doc was in surgeries till 2 so it was a while before they got back to me. In the meantime, I continued to give Maggy May a teaspoon of chicken and rice every hour or so. Poor girl hasn't had much to eat this past week, or couldn't keep it down rather. So, throughout the day, Maggy May has had 2 bowel movements, soft but not real soft, more on the formed side AND she has managed to keep her chicken and rice down!! VERY happy here! I called the vet back to let them know I had fed her since she vomited and she had kept it down and that she also had bowel movements and they were soft but formed. Doc wants her on the pepcid a bit longer to keep her tummy settled and said to continue what I'm presently doing. If anything changes or she starts to go downhill again, contact them right away. I'm feeling much better about her today since she's only vomited once, I think things are going to start looking up for her now. Thank you all so much for your concern, replies and prayers, I appreciate it more than I can say. If anything changes, I'll post and let ya know.

Come on, baby girl! Eat that chicken!!

[Beabble]

Originally Posted by Betty'sMom

Come on, baby girl! Eat that chicken!!

Awe, thanks for encouraging her Jeanne. She wants more, and I feel bad for not giving her more, but I'm afriad to give her to much at a time, I'm afraid she'll start vomiting again if I give her to much. She's such a precious girl, she's laying her all balled up in my lap and looks up at me occasionally to make sure I'm still here. Don't know what I'd ever do without her, she's one of the greatest loves of my life.

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by Beabble

Awe, thanks for encouraging her Jeanne. She wants more, and I feel bad for not giving her more, but I'm afriad to give her to much at a time, I'm afraid she'll start vomiting again if I give her to much. She's such a precious girl, she's laying her all balled up in my lap and looks up at me occasionally to make sure I'm still here. Don't know what I'd ever do without her, she's one of the greatest loves of my life.

Awe, I'm so glad she's doing a little better, chicken always makes makes my tummy feel better, and when I can't eat anything else, I can still eat chicken. Hope she continues to improve.