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Yorkieluv · 01-17-2008, 02:13 PM

As long as you correct her daily protocol, you should see a positive change over time. Just make sure that her next meals are egg/dairy/vegetable protein.

TLC · 01-17-2008, 02:21 PM

I keep coming back to this thread, cause I am so sorry her #s are high again. This sucks

Ya know, I don't mind making special food with all sorts of needed supplements, I don't mind paying Vet bills, I don't mind paying for any of it. I just really HATE thinking that our Babies have these defects and that they could and can alter their lives

I truly hope that there comes a day when less and less of this is past around.

Ellie May · 01-17-2008, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TLC

I keep coming back to this thread, cause I am so sorry her #s are high again. This sucks

Ya know, I don't mind making special food with all sorts of needed supplements, I don't mind paying Vet bills, I don't mind paying for any of it. I just really HATE thinking that our Babies have these defects and that they could and can alter their lives

I truly hope that there comes a day when less and less of this is past around.

I know. It is so sad. What really gets me is how brave they have to be at the vet's when they are getting needles stuck in their necks, getting held down by strangers, waking up dazed from a surgery, get pills shoved down their throats...

Patti · 01-17-2008, 03:20 PM

I am so sorry the number is up, Cali was diagnosed with very mild MVD based on 2 Bile acir tests. The first one was 0/92 or close to it and the second was 0/43. We then did an ultrasound that showed no external shunts, then we did a liver biopsy during her spay and she was diagnosed with a very mild MVD. Cali's specialist said in her experience if the BA were under 100 it usually was MVD. When really elevated a external shunt. My 11 year old pom has chirrosis and liver disease diagnosed by blood work, ultrasounds and a liver biopsy. When they did her ultrasounds, they did 2 one to diagnose her and one a couple of weeks ago to see if it was worse due to a grand mal seizure. They had me stay during the ultrasound and showed me where the liver was smaller and had nodules. I believe liver disease is easier to determine. Maya has done well with her meds and is holding her own for now. I pray you get an answer and a good outcome.

Zanders' mom · 01-17-2008, 05:47 PM

Hi, I'm sorry to hear about your worries. Please know that I have read and have been told to stay away from the lepto vaccine. It is not well tolerated by small dogs, i.e. yorkies. I have refused it every time, I've taken my 2 to the vet. I will try and find its side effects.

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Originally Posted by Ellie May

Does cirrhosis or hepatitis ring a bell with the elevated bile acids? They just aren't classic shunt symptoms. How about a reaction to a lepto vaccine causing liver damage? Is it possible?

Ellie May · 01-17-2008, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Zanders' mom

Hi, I'm sorry to hear about your worries. Please know that I have read and have been told to stay away from the lepto vaccine. It is not well tolerated by small dogs, i.e. yorkies. I have refused it every time, I've taken my 2 to the vet. I will try and find its side effects.

Yes, I found out about this after she had the shot.

She went into shock from it.

Wylie's Mom · 01-18-2008, 07:36 AM

Hi Crystal - I wasn't really on yesterday, but I'm so sorry you're going through all of this - poor Ellie. I don't have experience with this, but I just wanted to offer my positive thoughts. She is VERY lucky to have a mum who is incredibly knowledgable and diligent - I know you'll get her through this.

Ellie May · 01-18-2008, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

Hi Crystal - I wasn't really on yesterday, but I'm so sorry you're going through all of this - poor Ellie. I don't have experience with this, but I just wanted to offer my positive thoughts. She is VERY lucky to have a mum who is incredibly knowledgable and diligent - I know you'll get her through this.

Thanks for the thought.

Our saga continues in the health and diet section...

Yorkiekids · 01-18-2008, 08:25 AM

I'm so sorry Ellie May. I'll be praying for her.

Madisen55 · 01-19-2008, 10:42 AM

did they try doing an xray to fidn out how big the liver is??? ussually if its small its liver shunt!! thats what my vet did for riley instead of ultrasound...

Ellie May · 01-19-2008, 01:58 PM

No, she didn't have a liver xray. She has to have an u/s anyway on her bladder. It is most likely not LS because 95% of the time their preprandial bile acid test is elevated and Ellie's isn't. It might not be MVD because the biopsy didn't show it (but it still could be). So nobody really knows. The vet did a biopsy (during Ellie's spay) and she didn't say that the liver was too small. I should've asked her.

MyFairLacy · 01-19-2008, 02:12 PM

How is Ellie doing today? I've seen several threads so I've had a little trouble following everything. Has she been to a specialist yet?

Ellie May · 01-19-2008, 02:18 PM

LOL. We've had a lot of problems in the last 48 hours.

She sees a specialist next Saturday.

Ellie May · 01-19-2008, 02:27 PM

I was just thinking, I have started quite a few threads.

Two were from about a week ago about bladder problems.
This one was from two days ago.
THen I started two more (yesterday). One from another allergy she must have and was going crazy itching and another one when she was throwing up all day testerday.

Cinq1964 · 01-19-2008, 02:39 PM

Praying for you both. Hang in there! Try to keep positive thoughts!

01-17-2008, 02:13 PM	#46
Yorkieluv Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: USA Posts: 7,178	As long as you correct her daily protocol, you should see a positive change over time. Just make sure that her next meals are egg/dairy/vegetable protein. __________________ Miko 's his Mommy

01-17-2008, 02:21 PM	#47
TLC Slave to My Rug-Rats Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Long Island Posts: 7,247	I keep coming back to this thread, cause I am so sorry her #s are high again. This sucks Ya know, I don't mind making special food with all sorts of needed supplements, I don't mind paying Vet bills, I don't mind paying for any of it. I just really HATE thinking that our Babies have these defects and that they could and can alter their lives I truly hope that there comes a day when less and less of this is past around. __________________ Adopt Donate Foster www.yorkie911rescue.com

01-17-2008, 03:20 PM	#49
Patti Donating YT 30K Club Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 35,509 Blog Entries: 6	I am so sorry the number is up, Cali was diagnosed with very mild MVD based on 2 Bile acir tests. The first one was 0/92 or close to it and the second was 0/43. We then did an ultrasound that showed no external shunts, then we did a liver biopsy during her spay and she was diagnosed with a very mild MVD. Cali's specialist said in her experience if the BA were under 100 it usually was MVD. When really elevated a external shunt. My 11 year old pom has chirrosis and liver disease diagnosed by blood work, ultrasounds and a liver biopsy. When they did her ultrasounds, they did 2 one to diagnose her and one a couple of weeks ago to see if it was worse due to a grand mal seizure. They had me stay during the ultrasound and showed me where the liver was smaller and had nodules. I believe liver disease is easier to determine. Maya has done well with her meds and is holding her own for now. I pray you get an answer and a good outcome. __________________ Cali Pixie Roxie : RIP Nikki; RIP Maya;RIP my sweet Dixie girl 1/17/08 http://callipuppyscastle.bravehost.com/index.html

01-18-2008, 07:36 AM	#52
Wylie's Mom Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 35,889 Blog Entries: 2	Hi Crystal - I wasn't really on yesterday, but I'm so sorry you're going through all of this - poor Ellie. I don't have experience with this, but I just wanted to offer my positive thoughts. She is VERY lucky to have a mum who is incredibly knowledgable and diligent - I know you'll get her through this. __________________ ~ A friend told me I was delusional. I nearly fell off my unicorn. ~ °¨¨¨°ºOº°¨¨¨° Ann \| Pfeiffer \| Marcel Verdel Purcell \| Wylie \| Artie °¨¨¨°ºOº°¨¨¨°

01-18-2008, 08:25 AM	#54
Yorkiekids Piper & Sebastian Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: florida Posts: 14,495	I'm so sorry Ellie May. I'll be praying for her. __________________ Susan, Piper ,Harley & Suiki

01-19-2008, 10:42 AM	#55
Madisen55 Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 24	did they try doing an xray to fidn out how big the liver is??? ussually if its small its liver shunt!! thats what my vet did for riley instead of ultrasound...

01-19-2008, 01:58 PM	#56
Ellie May And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI Posts: 17,928	No, she didn't have a liver xray. She has to have an u/s anyway on her bladder. It is most likely not LS because 95% of the time their preprandial bile acid test is elevated and Ellie's isn't. It might not be MVD because the biopsy didn't show it (but it still could be). So nobody really knows. The vet did a biopsy (during Ellie's spay) and she didn't say that the liver was too small. I should've asked her. __________________ Crystal, Ellie May (RIP), Rylee Finnegan, and Gracie Boo🐶

01-19-2008, 02:12 PM	#57
MyFairLacy Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: DFW, Texas Posts: 11,003	How is Ellie doing today? I've seen several threads so I've had a little trouble following everything. Has she been to a specialist yet? __________________ ~Magnifique Yorkies~ Purchasing from backyard breeders, pet shops, and puppymills perpetuates the suffering of other dogs. Educate yourself and buy from reputable breeders or rescue.

01-19-2008, 02:18 PM	#58
Ellie May And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI Posts: 17,928	LOL. We've had a lot of problems in the last 48 hours. She sees a specialist next Saturday. __________________ Crystal, Ellie May (RIP), Rylee Finnegan, and Gracie Boo🐶

01-19-2008, 02:27 PM	#59
Ellie May And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI Posts: 17,928	I was just thinking, I have started quite a few threads. Two were from about a week ago about bladder problems. This one was from two days ago. THen I started two more (yesterday). One from another allergy she must have and was going crazy itching and another one when she was throwing up all day testerday. __________________ Crystal, Ellie May (RIP), Rylee Finnegan, and Gracie Boo🐶

01-19-2008, 02:39 PM	#60
Cinq1964 Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 2,255 Blog Entries: 2	Praying for you both. Hang in there! Try to keep positive thoughts! __________________ Doggie Blankets $10 with shipping! cinq1964.webs.com