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daisy mae06 · 01-12-2008, 09:02 PM

Vicky No new news? I am worried you had a vet app today.

I am praying all is well......

MrsPeanut · 01-12-2008, 11:33 PM

New to this thread.....but welcome and i am so glad Bleu is doing better and was diagnosed correctly. Wishing you guys a speedy recover.

MyTrixie143 · 01-13-2008, 12:38 AM

I am sorry to hear about your baby boy. I am glad he is feeling better and getting the best care he can.

I hope the pain goes away soon for him. I know it is just heartbreaking seeing them in pain.
Get Well Soon Bleu!!

PANAMA69 · 01-13-2008, 11:10 PM

Hope your boy is doing better

bettyeanne · 01-14-2008, 03:55 AM

Any news??

BLEU BOY BARBER · 01-14-2008, 01:07 PM

After going to doc on saturday I came straight in and went to bed... I am still bumfuzzled to say the least.. Bleu does ok during the day but when he is coming off pain meds which is every 6 hours he is in some definite pain...

at this point I am extremely frustrated...

Let me tell you what I think has happened...

The first vet I took him too ran no tests though I begged him too he only gave an injection then he took his neck and completely lined it straight up with his back IS THIS NORMAL?????????????????????????????

Took him to second vet he had blood in his stool and a urine infection ... OK THAT TELLS ME SOMETHING WAS WRONG RIGHT THERE! (MAY NEVER HAVE BEEN HIS NECK I THINK FIRST VET MESSED HIS NECK UP)

Do you think the fist vet is the reason BLEUS neck is out of whack cause this is the latest

Bleu (PER NEW VET) DOES NOT HAVE AAI OR AAS HE WAS TREATING HIM FOR THAT BUT DID NOT OFFICIALLY DIAGNOSE HIM

So we are back to square one he took more x rays SAT $200.00 worth no blood in stool..

Says neck is as if you were a football player and you jammed your neck and went to chiropractor and had an adjustment this is all that is wrong with BLEU

says his recovery period is 6 weeks .. wants me to update him every 2 days and look for anything out of the norm will see him in 2 weeks but that he is totally pleased with bleus improvement...he says on the newest films he sees like a shadow that could be a hairline fracture or it could be a shadow but that bleu is young enough his bones will repair themselves ....

please helpppppppppppppppppppppp

daisy mae06 · 01-14-2008, 01:17 PM

I can't help Hun..... But I wanted to tell you I am so Glad to see the update I was so Worried when I didn't see you on at all.

I will be Praying that you get your answers.

WidsMom · 01-14-2008, 01:22 PM

Do you know how the first vet came to that conclusion that he needed to 'line his neck up with his back?" Did he take an x-ray there?

When you went to the second vet, did you bring the records just to make sure tha the second vet knew what direction the first vet was taking?

It can be confusing to both the docs and to you sometimes...

If AAI/AAS was suspected, it's such a rare thing, I would go to a Veteranary Neurologist and have it ruled out completely before disregarding it. That is a doctor of Veteranary Medicine that specializes in the nervous system ONLY. He is not usually a 'regular' vet. Often, they are associated with large veteranary colleges.

I have never heard (but that doesn't mean it can't happen) of a vet doing a chiropractic adjustment on a dog with AAI/AAS. It's not a matter of pushing the vertebrae back into a slot...it's usually a congenital defect in the spine..a weakness that can only be corrected by surgery.

On another thread you mentioned a slight yellowish discharge from your boy's privates..yes, it's not abormal to see a small amt. of non-clear discharge.
And yes, if he's excited to see you, you may see the red tip as well.

Hope you are successful in getting all checked out,
Joy

a_jgonzalez · 01-14-2008, 01:38 PM

I have no advice for you but wanted to say I hope he feels better very soon.

That is wierd how he feels good one minute and bad another??

yorkiesmiles · 01-14-2008, 01:54 PM

Thank you for updating on Bleu. I have been so worried. Please follow the advice of others who have dealt with AAI/AAS and get to a Veteranary Neurologist. If you have x-rays, blood work from the other vets take it with you or have it faxed to the neurologist. He needs to see a specialist so you know what you are dealing with.

As trying as this is, you will have more peace once you hear from a specialist. Then you will know how to proceed and know that Bleu is getting proper care.

Hugs & prayers to you. I am so sorry you are going thru this.

sadiesamie · 01-14-2008, 03:57 PM

the specialist we see (you have to be referred to them) is Dr. Bronstad the phone # 214-667-2244- they are closed on Fridays.They are located off of Custer Rd.

Jody Renfroe · 01-15-2008, 06:06 AM

Hi, Vicki! Thanks so much for the update on Bleu. You have to be extremely frustrated, I'm sure that at this point your questioning both vets "does he have it or not?" I know you'll be more at peace once you get a definitive answer. Please know that I'm thinking of you and Bleu and praying that everything will work itself out.

Mybabe4me · 01-15-2008, 04:26 PM

Vicki,
It me again... How is Bleu doing?? I know how much of a pain this all can be.. But Bleu really needs to see a neurologist.. He will tell you for sure if Bleu has AAI/AAS.. If a vet has never seen this before the are going to think that in xrays it looks very strang.. AAI can be aquired but it is mostly a congenital deformity.. They say big dogs that get hit by cars some will get AAI/AAS...
Oh and the reason you are seeing Bleu feeling better with the pain meds is because they are masking him pain.. Babybear's surgeon told me all pain meds do is make things worst sometimes.. The pup feels so well the do all kinds of thing and injures themselves worst.. And to not do surgery is like putting a bandage on a broken bone.. Please keep these things in mind.. Your best bet is to see a neurologist and put your mind at ease.. I am so worried about you Bleu..
And you also said that Bleu was a very young pup.. They might not want to do surgery on him til he is a bit older.. until his bones have stopped growing around 10 months.. So you might have to keep him calm til then.. This is something to ask your neurologist about..
Remember we are all here for you.. So please keep us posted..Give little Bleu a gentle belly rub for us.

daisy mae06 · 01-15-2008, 04:43 PM

Vicky Just Letting you Know I am here for you and BLEU BOY. (((((HUGS)))) to you both.

BLEU BOY BARBER · 01-15-2008, 07:54 PM

HERE IS THE UPDATE

We just got home from TEXAS A&AM AND I am so full of emotions in so many different areas..

FIRST OFF KUDOS TO THIS WEBSITE FOR HELPING ME PERSONALLY DIAGNOSE MY DOG BECAUSE 2 VETS DID NOT KNOW A THING! I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT SO ANGER DOES NOT KICK IN...

Bleu was admitted and in ICU last night at TEXAS A&M UNIVERSITY! We left him after a full work up and they were concerned of a liver shunt....

GREAT NEWS!!! NOOOOOOOOOOO LIVER SHUNT!!!!

IM NOT DONE!

Got a call this morning and I was told they were evalutaing him for ATLANTIS AXIAL SUBLUXATION! They would formally let me know something by 5:00 PM TODAY...

So we have been on pins and needles....

BLEU BOY HAS BEEN DIAGNOSED BY TEXAS A&M UNIVERSITY BY A INTERNAL MEDICINE DOCTOR A NEUROLOGIST AND A NEUROSURGEON AND IM SURE MORE......

OCCIPITAL AXIAL SUBLUXATION!!

FOLKS I AM A VOICE FOR THIS WEBSITE FOR THE YORKSHIRE BREED AND FOR MY BABY...

There is a 70% verses 30 % rate ...

BLEU HAS SURGERY THIS FRIDAY.... HE WILL BE IN A FULL BODY CAST HEAD AND BACK FOR 6-8 WEEKS WE FOLLOW UP WEEKLY TO REMOVE CAST AND APPLY ANOTHER TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS STABILIZED

We were told he could die on the table... IM DEVASTATED! We were told he could be normal ..

THIS IS GENETIC CONGENITAL AND HERIDITARY...

HIS EPISODES OF GLASSY EYES STAGGERING ECT........ IS BECAUSE THERE IS PRESSURE ON HIS SPINAL COLUMN....

They are doing MRI ON THURSDAY to confirm surgery site and make sure no water on the brain HYDROCEPHALUS... They have ran every test...

Im sorry if I am scatterbrained and have posted numerous threads... PLEASE UNDERSTAND MY DEVASTATION...

I got to hold Bleu tonight... I have pictures and will share soon.. He was in great spirits VERY LOVING AND FULL OF KISSES.. I finally petted him to sleep he was snoring .... They came and got him and we traveled home....

I know there are alot of cases on this website and we are all each and individual. I want to thank you each personally for all you have done for me and my BLeu.. I honestly could not make it without you and this website.. I plan on being a avid member...

Please keep us in your prayers our 6 year old is devastated and my hubby is crushed... Our home is empty without him and bringing him home next week in a full body cast is going to be very trying on me emotionally cause I can not see him suffer...

Please I beg for your prayers..
Thank you again After I talk to surgeon in the morning before noon I will update you all ... Untill then holding on to my pillow on my hubbys chest and crying myself to sleep because I am doing all I know to do and if God still takes him.. I have to know it is because he forsaw something that I could not see and did not want him to suffer...

Thank you All
BLEU BOY
AND MOMMY

01-12-2008, 09:02 PM	#76
daisy mae06 Kodi & Pixie 2 Donating Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: NEBRASKA Posts: 14,766	Vicky No new news? I am worried you had a vet app today. I am praying all is well...... __________________ OK Yorkie Rescue - http://okyorkierescue.org LorisCritterSitter.com

01-12-2008, 11:33 PM	#77
MrsPeanut Stop PuppyMills Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Murrieta Posts: 1,061	New to this thread.....but welcome and i am so glad Bleu is doing better and was diagnosed correctly. Wishing you guys a speedy recover. __________________ Frankie Proud Momma of Peanut : Tigger : Chewy President/Creator of California Yorkies and member to The Little Gentlemens Club

01-13-2008, 12:38 AM	#78
MyTrixie143 Mom to 6 Beautiful Furkids Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 5,409	I am sorry to hear about your baby boy. I am glad he is feeling better and getting the best care he can. I hope the pain goes away soon for him. I know it is just heartbreaking seeing them in pain. Get Well Soon Bleu!! __________________ A dog is a furry person! http://www.dogster.com/?300866 Tracey and the gang DestinyHarmonyScamperGracieLillieKiwi Hershey Peppi

01-14-2008, 03:55 AM	#80
bettyeanne Donating YT 7000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Alabama, etc. Posts: 9,031	Any news?? __________________ Toto's Mom - http://www.dogster.com/?206581 Yorkie Rescue Colorado - http://www.yorkierescuecolorado.com/ "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has limits." -- Albert Einstein

01-14-2008, 01:07 PM	#81
BLEU BOY BARBER Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 1,935	Please Help This Is The Latest After going to doc on saturday I came straight in and went to bed... I am still bumfuzzled to say the least.. Bleu does ok during the day but when he is coming off pain meds which is every 6 hours he is in some definite pain... at this point I am extremely frustrated... Let me tell you what I think has happened... The first vet I took him too ran no tests though I begged him too he only gave an injection then he took his neck and completely lined it straight up with his back IS THIS NORMAL????????????????????????????? Took him to second vet he had blood in his stool and a urine infection ... OK THAT TELLS ME SOMETHING WAS WRONG RIGHT THERE! (MAY NEVER HAVE BEEN HIS NECK I THINK FIRST VET MESSED HIS NECK UP) Do you think the fist vet is the reason BLEUS neck is out of whack cause this is the latest Bleu (PER NEW VET) DOES NOT HAVE AAI OR AAS HE WAS TREATING HIM FOR THAT BUT DID NOT OFFICIALLY DIAGNOSE HIM So we are back to square one he took more x rays SAT $200.00 worth no blood in stool.. Says neck is as if you were a football player and you jammed your neck and went to chiropractor and had an adjustment this is all that is wrong with BLEU says his recovery period is 6 weeks .. wants me to update him every 2 days and look for anything out of the norm will see him in 2 weeks but that he is totally pleased with bleus improvement...he says on the newest films he sees like a shadow that could be a hairline fracture or it could be a shadow but that bleu is young enough his bones will repair themselves .... please helpppppppppppppppppppppp __________________ *Spoiled Rotten Mama's Boy* *Bleu Boy 's Sophie* We Are Wrapped Around Your Little Paws Bleu Boy Barber Dedicated Atlanto Axial Subluxation Paw Parents Last edited by BLEU BOY BARBER; 01-14-2008 at 01:10 PM. Reason: forgot

01-13-2008, 11:10 PM	#79
PANAMA69 Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: ~~YorkieWorld~~ Posts: 8,428	Hope your boy is doing better

01-14-2008, 01:17 PM	#82
daisy mae06 Kodi & Pixie 2 Donating Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: NEBRASKA Posts: 14,766	I can't help Hun..... But I wanted to tell you I am so Glad to see the update I was so Worried when I didn't see you on at all. I will be Praying that you get your answers. __________________ OK Yorkie Rescue - http://okyorkierescue.org LorisCritterSitter.com

01-14-2008, 01:22 PM	#83
WidsMom Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: USA Posts: 277	Do you know how the first vet came to that conclusion that he needed to 'line his neck up with his back?" Did he take an x-ray there? When you went to the second vet, did you bring the records just to make sure tha the second vet knew what direction the first vet was taking? It can be confusing to both the docs and to you sometimes... If AAI/AAS was suspected, it's such a rare thing, I would go to a Veteranary Neurologist and have it ruled out completely before disregarding it. *That is a doctor of Veteranary Medicine that specializes in the nervous system* ONLY. He is not usually a 'regular' vet. Often, they are associated with large veteranary colleges. I have never heard (but that doesn't mean it can't happen) of a vet doing a chiropractic adjustment on a dog with AAI/AAS. It's not a matter of pushing the vertebrae back into a slot...it's usually a congenital defect in the spine..a weakness that can only be corrected by surgery. On another thread you mentioned a slight yellowish discharge from your boy's privates..yes, it's not abormal to see a small amt. of non-clear discharge. And yes, if he's excited to see you, you may see the red tip as well. Hope you are successful in getting all checked out, Joy __________________ Mom of Haley and Pim!

01-14-2008, 01:38 PM	#84
a_jgonzalez YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: California Posts: 503	I have no advice for you but wanted to say I hope he feels better very soon. That is wierd how he feels good one minute and bad another?? __________________ Annette & Toby & now Max too!

01-14-2008, 01:54 PM	#85
yorkiesmiles Donating YT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Iowa Posts: 9,493	Thank you for updating on Bleu. I have been so worried. Please follow the advice of others who have dealt with AAI/AAS and get to a Veteranary Neurologist. If you have x-rays, blood work from the other vets take it with you or have it faxed to the neurologist. He needs to see a specialist so you know what you are dealing with. As trying as this is, you will have more peace once you hear from a specialist. Then you will know how to proceed and know that Bleu is getting proper care. Hugs & prayers to you. I am so sorry you are going thru this. __________________ yorkiesmiles Loved by Bubba & Roxy *Holy, holy, is the Lord God Almighty, who was, and is, and is to come*

01-14-2008, 03:57 PM	#86
sadiesamie YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: McKinney, Texas Posts: 604	the specialist we see (you have to be referred to them) is Dr. Bronstad the phone # 214-667-2244- they are closed on Fridays.They are located off of Custer Rd.

01-15-2008, 06:06 AM	#87
Jody Renfroe No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 1,375	Hi, Vicki! Thanks so much for the update on Bleu. You have to be extremely frustrated, I'm sure that at this point your questioning both vets "does he have it or not?" I know you'll be more at peace once you get a definitive answer. Please know that I'm thinking of you and Bleu and praying that everything will work itself out.

01-15-2008, 04:26 PM	#88
Mybabe4me YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Maine Posts: 713	Vicki, It me again... How is Bleu doing?? I know how much of a pain this all can be.. But Bleu really needs to see a neurologist.. He will tell you for sure if Bleu has AAI/AAS.. If a vet has never seen this before the are going to think that in xrays it looks very strang.. AAI can be aquired but it is mostly a congenital deformity.. They say big dogs that get hit by cars some will get AAI/AAS... Oh and the reason you are seeing Bleu feeling better with the pain meds is because they are masking him pain.. Babybear's surgeon told me all pain meds do is make things worst sometimes.. The pup feels so well the do all kinds of thing and injures themselves worst.. And to not do surgery is like putting a bandage on a broken bone.. Please keep these things in mind.. Your best bet is to see a neurologist and put your mind at ease.. I am so worried about you Bleu.. And you also said that Bleu was a very young pup.. They might not want to do surgery on him til he is a bit older.. until his bones have stopped growing around 10 months.. So you might have to keep him calm til then.. This is something to ask your neurologist about.. Remember we are all here for you.. So please keep us posted..Give little Bleu a gentle belly rub for us. __________________ Val and Babybear http://www.dogster.com/dogs/136060[/url]

01-15-2008, 04:43 PM	#89
daisy mae06 Kodi & Pixie 2 Donating Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: NEBRASKA Posts: 14,766	Vicky Just Letting you Know I am here for you and BLEU BOY. (((((HUGS)))) to you both. __________________ OK Yorkie Rescue - http://okyorkierescue.org LorisCritterSitter.com

01-15-2008, 07:54 PM	#90
BLEU BOY BARBER Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 1,935	Latest Update 1/15/2008 HERE IS THE UPDATE We just got home from TEXAS A&AM AND I am so full of emotions in so many different areas.. FIRST OFF KUDOS TO THIS WEBSITE FOR HELPING ME PERSONALLY DIAGNOSE MY DOG BECAUSE 2 VETS DID NOT KNOW A THING! I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT SO ANGER DOES NOT KICK IN... Bleu was admitted and in ICU last night at TEXAS A&M UNIVERSITY! We left him after a full work up and they were concerned of a liver shunt.... GREAT NEWS!!! NOOOOOOOOOOO LIVER SHUNT!!!! IM NOT DONE! Got a call this morning and I was told they were evalutaing him for ATLANTIS AXIAL SUBLUXATION! They would formally let me know something by 5:00 PM TODAY... So we have been on pins and needles.... BLEU BOY HAS BEEN DIAGNOSED BY TEXAS A&M UNIVERSITY BY A INTERNAL MEDICINE DOCTOR A NEUROLOGIST AND A NEUROSURGEON AND IM SURE MORE...... OCCIPITAL AXIAL SUBLUXATION!! FOLKS I AM A VOICE FOR THIS WEBSITE FOR THE YORKSHIRE BREED AND FOR MY BABY... There is a 70% verses 30 % rate ... BLEU HAS SURGERY THIS FRIDAY.... HE WILL BE IN A FULL BODY CAST HEAD AND BACK FOR 6-8 WEEKS WE FOLLOW UP WEEKLY TO REMOVE CAST AND APPLY ANOTHER TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS STABILIZED We were told he could die on the table... IM DEVASTATED! We were told he could be normal .. THIS IS GENETIC CONGENITAL AND HERIDITARY... HIS EPISODES OF GLASSY EYES STAGGERING ECT........ IS BECAUSE THERE IS PRESSURE ON HIS SPINAL COLUMN.... They are doing MRI ON THURSDAY to confirm surgery site and make sure no water on the brain HYDROCEPHALUS... They have ran every test... Im sorry if I am scatterbrained and have posted numerous threads... PLEASE UNDERSTAND MY DEVASTATION... I got to hold Bleu tonight... I have pictures and will share soon.. He was in great spirits VERY LOVING AND FULL OF KISSES.. I finally petted him to sleep he was snoring .... They came and got him and we traveled home.... I know there are alot of cases on this website and we are all each and individual. I want to thank you each personally for all you have done for me and my BLeu.. I honestly could not make it without you and this website.. I plan on being a avid member... Please keep us in your prayers our 6 year old is devastated and my hubby is crushed... Our home is empty without him and bringing him home next week in a full body cast is going to be very trying on me emotionally cause I can not see him suffer... Please I beg for your prayers.. Thank you again After I talk to surgeon in the morning before noon I will update you all ... Untill then holding on to my pillow on my hubbys chest and crying myself to sleep because I am doing all I know to do and if God still takes him.. I have to know it is because he forsaw something that I could not see and did not want him to suffer... Thank you All BLEU BOY AND MOMMY __________________ *Spoiled Rotten Mama's Boy* *Bleu Boy 's Sophie* We Are Wrapped Around Your Little Paws Bleu Boy Barber Dedicated Atlanto Axial Subluxation Paw Parents Last edited by BLEU BOY BARBER; 01-15-2008 at 07:57 PM.