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cheryl000 · 12-08-2005, 07:56 AM

I remember that. Something was wrong with that dog's head too. Well, with it's frontal lobe. As if you didn't have to be careful with it enough!
Oh, and if you agree with me about not letting the breeders of tinies advertise here, click on red part on the ad and write admin. If they said they're not going to condone it, they shouldn't allow the breeders of tinies to advertise here on YT.

minniemn · 12-08-2005, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by cheryl000

Oh, and if you agree with me about not letting the breeders of tinies advertise here, click on red part on the ad and write admin. If they said they're not going to condone it, they shouldn't allow the breeders of tinies to advertise here on YT.

Great idea, you are right if they don't condone it, then people breeding tinies should not be allowed to post for sale....

SoCalyorkiLvr · 12-09-2005, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by JCarlson2004

Thank you so much.

That was really the point I was trying to drive home in my post ... COMMON SENSE.

You only have to LOOK at a 2 lb or 3 lb dog to see that it is too tiny for breeding - COMMON SENSE.

You only have to HOLD a 2 lb or 3 lb dog to realize that it is far too petite and tiny for breeding - COMMON SENSE.

You only have to find out that a dog is 2 lbs or 3 lbs to know that it is inhumane (in my opinion) to breed - COMMON SENSE.:

Is this the case for chihuahuas? Is it COMMON SENSE not to breed them? Is the breeding weight limit 5 lbs for them too? You said DOG, not yorkie so I assume this would include any 3 lb dog?

MeganS · 12-09-2005, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SoCalyorkiLvr

Is this the case for chihuahuas? Is it COMMON SENSE not to breed them? Is the breeding weight limit 5 lbs for them too? You said DOG, not yorkie so I assume this would include any 3 lb dog?

I believe (I'm not positive) but I BELIEVE I saw on here somewhere that most chi breeders prefer the 5-6 lb females too...again I'm not positive.

YorkieLady · 12-09-2005, 03:32 AM

I have a very small Chi, Callie -- and her mom weighed around 4-5 lbs but the dad weighed 2-3 lbs. Callie is about 6 months old and weighs 1.12 ozs and there is NO EARTHLY WAY I would even CONSIDER breeding her. My small Yorkie, Daisha, weighs a little over 3 lbs and I would never breed her either. It breaks my heart to see that people breed these 2 & 3 lb dogs. Such a shame.

red98vett · 12-09-2005, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by YorkieLady

I have a very small Chi, Callie -- and her mom weighed around 4-5 lbs but the dad weighed 2-3 lbs. Callie is about 6 months old and weighs 1.12 ozs and there is NO EARTHLY WAY I would even CONSIDER breeding her. My small Yorkie, Daisha, weighs a little over 3 lbs and I would never breed her either. It breaks my heart to see that people breed these 2 & 3 lb dogs. Such a shame.

WOW Is Callie tiny and you're so right - who in their right mind would do that to a little girl ? She is really so pretty & I love seeing her.... but had no idea she was so small - Daisha either - I thought she was a little bigger than she is - They're BOTH so pretty...

Thanks for sharing your thoughts - We need people like you to stress how dangerous it can be to breed these tiny little dogs.

GOOD POST girl.

hunniebunnie · 12-09-2005, 04:43 AM

whoa, i can't believe i just went through all 9 pages of this. very heated discussion indeed! i'm a newbie here so lemme see if i got this right:

- tinies as pets - okay
- tinies as mothers - bad
- breeders who breed their tinies - very bad
- people who claim to know more than they actually know must own very big oar to back-paddle

does that about summarizes the last 9 pages.

btw, my vet says special cases *may* apply but bitches under 5 lbs should not be bred, and i shouldn't have to worry about it 'cause i have a boy.

txshopper73 · 12-09-2005, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by hunniebunnie

whoa, i can't believe i just went through all 9 pages of this. very heated discussion indeed! i'm a newbie here so lemme see if i got this right:

- tinies as pets - okay
- tinies as mothers - bad
- breeders who breed their tinies - very bad
- people who claim to know more than they actually know must own very big oar to back-paddle

does that about summarizes the last 9 pages.

btw, my vet says special cases *may* apply but bitches under 5 lbs should not be bred, and i shouldn't have to worry about it 'cause i have a boy.

LOL! Yup, I think you got the jest of it!

red98vett · 12-09-2005, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by hunniebunnie

whoa, i can't believe i just went through all 9 pages of this. very heated discussion indeed! i'm a newbie here so lemme see if i got this right:

- tinies as pets - okay
- tinies as mothers - bad
- breeders who breed their tinies - very bad
- people who claim to know more than they actually know must own very big oar to back-paddle

does that about summarizes the last 9 pages.

btw, my vet says special cases *may* apply but bitches under 5 lbs should not be bred, and i shouldn't have to worry about it 'cause i have a boy.

LMAO !!! YOU GET AN A+ for comprehension and understanding and an A++ for being funny !

BamaFan121s · 12-09-2005, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by hunniebunnie

whoa, i can't believe i just went through all 9 pages of this. very heated discussion indeed! i'm a newbie here so lemme see if i got this right:

- tinies as pets - okay
- tinies as mothers - bad
- breeders who breed their tinies - very bad
- people who claim to know more than they actually know must own very big oar to back-paddle

does that about summarizes the last 9 pages.

btw, my vet says special cases *may* apply but bitches under 5 lbs should not be bred, and i shouldn't have to worry about it 'cause i have a boy.

Yep, sounds like you've pretty much got it to me.

Breeze · 12-09-2005, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by hunniebunnie

whoa, i can't believe i just went through all 9 pages of this. very heated discussion indeed! i'm a newbie here so lemme see if i got this right:

- tinies as pets - okay
- tinies as mothers - bad
- breeders who breed their tinies - very bad
- people who claim to know more than they actually know must own very big oar to back-paddle

does that about summarizes the last 9 pages.

btw, my vet says special cases *may* apply but bitches under 5 lbs should not be bred, and i shouldn't have to worry about it 'cause i have a boy.

love your post!

Sherry Lynn · 12-09-2005, 07:25 AM

If you would have posted first we could have foregone all of the above!!

minniemn · 12-09-2005, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by hunniebunnie

whoa, i can't believe i just went through all 9 pages of this. very heated discussion indeed! i'm a newbie here so lemme see if i got this right:

- tinies as pets - okay
- tinies as mothers - bad
- breeders who breed their tinies - very bad
- people who claim to know more than they actually know must own very big oar to back-paddle

does that about summarizes the last 9 pages.

btw, my vet says special cases *may* apply but bitches under 5 lbs should not be bred, and i shouldn't have to worry about it 'cause i have a boy.

You summed it up great, love the post

SoCalyorkiLvr · 12-09-2005, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by hunniebunnie

whoa, i can't believe i just went through all 9 pages of this. very heated discussion indeed! i'm a newbie here so lemme see if i got this right:

- tinies as pets - okay
- tinies as mothers - bad
- breeders who breed their tinies - very bad
- people who claim to know more than they actually know must own very big oar to back-paddle

does that about summarizes the last 9 pages.

btw, my vet says special cases *may* apply but bitches under 5 lbs should not be bred, and i shouldn't have to worry about it 'cause i have a boy.

Welcome to YT! You are very funny and that is certainly appreciated here. Even though that last one on the list was probably directed at me, I am not offended as I love the humor!

What your vet has said is what we have basically arrived at I think and what most would agree to at this point in the discussion....The "special cases" would probably be where the "frame" of a four lb yorkie was such that she could safely free whelp.

And Cali's mom ....thanks for answering my question about chis because they are typically smaller as a whole than yorkies.

bettyeanne · 12-09-2005, 07:42 AM

One-time statement:

I have read page after page over time regarding this subject and don’t recall ever posting on any of them. I do have an opinion and promise to state it only once!

As most of you know, my Toto is small. I have always considered her just that, small. Our vet insists that we keep her at 3 lbs. or less because her bone structure is so small. She is overweight by a little over a pound at 4.12. She will remain on the diet that she has been on for a year until the desired weight recommended by Dr. Lucy is reached. This is because we want what’s best for her and don’t want to face health problems created by us allowing her to gain more weight than her little body can handle! I am insulted when people see her and say "Oh, you have a teacup!" I just bite my tongue and tell myself they don't know any better! Why argue the fact that there is no such thing?

We bought a small Yorkie because our work requires extensive travel and a large pet was out of the question for us. We bought her from a reputable breeder of show dogs who breeds for quality and was highly recommended. We planned to spay her before we even knew that this stipulation was included in the contract! She has a long and impressive pedigree and has been tested at an excellent facility for any health problems due to genetics and pronounced perfect!

I would just like to state for the record that we consider Toto an “anomaly” [The condition of being abnormal: aberrance, aberrancy, aberration, abnormality, deviance, deviancy, deviation, irregularity, preternaturalness, unnaturalness] that occasionally happens to even the most careful, caring breeders. She was certainly not bred for size … just quality, so I guess we just got the “best of both worlds”! Would we ever buy a Yorkie bred specifically for size?? ABSOLUTELY NOT!! I agree that this practice is wrong and that it should be considered animal cruelty to breed for this purpose! We feel so blessed to just have been in the right place at the right time and were the ones selected to be able to love this tiny “anomaly”!! We made a serious commitment to Toto and have more than lived up to it and will for her entire life!

I guess, bottom line, when these little abnormalities happen … there are two choices … either spay/neuter and the breeder keeps them or find people like us who can & will provide anything money can buy for them and care for them like children!! We thank God every day that Ava chose to do the latter!!

View Poll Results: Does your vet advise against the breeding of tinies?
YES! DO NOT BREED THEM!	68	79.07%
NO, BREED THEM ALL YOU WANT...THERE'S NO RISK	5	5.81%
I DUNNO...LET ME GET OUT MY VET BOOK AND LOOK IT UP.	13	15.12%
Voters: 86. You may not vote on this poll

12-09-2005, 07:25 AM	#132
Sherry Lynn Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 3,437	If you would have posted first we could have foregone all of the above!! __________________ Sherry Lynn Dublin and Widget

12-09-2005, 07:42 AM	#135
bettyeanne Donating YT 7000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Alabama, etc. Posts: 9,031	One-time statement: I have read page after page over time regarding this subject and don’t recall ever posting on any of them. I do have an opinion and promise to state it only once! As most of you know, my Toto is small. I have always considered her just that, small. Our vet insists that we keep her at 3 lbs. or less because her bone structure is so small. She is overweight by a little over a pound at 4.12. She will remain on the diet that she has been on for a year until the desired weight recommended by Dr. Lucy is reached. This is because we want what’s best for her and don’t want to face health problems created by us allowing her to gain more weight than her little body can handle! I am insulted when people see her and say "Oh, you have a teacup!" I just bite my tongue and tell myself they don't know any better! Why argue the fact that there is no such thing? We bought a small Yorkie because our work requires extensive travel and a large pet was out of the question for us. We bought her from a reputable breeder of show dogs who breeds for quality and was highly recommended. We planned to spay her before we even knew that this stipulation was included in the contract! She has a long and impressive pedigree and has been tested at an excellent facility for any health problems due to genetics and pronounced perfect! I would just like to state for the record that we consider Toto an “anomaly” [The condition of being abnormal: aberrance, aberrancy, aberration, abnormality, deviance, deviancy, deviation, irregularity, preternaturalness, unnaturalness] that occasionally happens to even the most careful, caring breeders. She was certainly not bred for size … just quality, so I guess we just got the “best of both worlds”! Would we ever buy a Yorkie bred specifically for size?? ABSOLUTELY NOT!! I agree that this practice is wrong and that it should be considered animal cruelty to breed for this purpose! We feel so blessed to just have been in the right place at the right time and were the ones selected to be able to love this tiny “anomaly”!! We made a serious commitment to Toto and have more than lived up to it and will for her entire life! I guess, bottom line, when these little abnormalities happen … there are two choices … either spay/neuter and the breeder keeps them or find people like us who can & will provide anything money can buy for them and care for them like children!! We thank God every day that Ava chose to do the latter!! __________________ Toto's Mom - http://www.dogster.com/?206581 Yorkie Rescue Colorado - http://www.yorkierescuecolorado.com/ "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has limits." -- Albert Einstein

12-08-2005, 07:56 AM	#121
cheryl000 YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: none Posts: 1,495	I remember that. Something was wrong with that dog's head too. Well, with it's frontal lobe. As if you didn't have to be careful with it enough! Oh, and if you agree with me about not letting the breeders of tinies advertise here, click on red part on the ad and write admin. If they said they're not going to condone it, they shouldn't allow the breeders of tinies to advertise here on YT.

12-09-2005, 03:32 AM	#125
YorkieLady BANNED! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Muscle Shoals Posts: 361	I have a very small Chi, Callie -- and her mom weighed around 4-5 lbs but the dad weighed 2-3 lbs. Callie is about 6 months old and weighs 1.12 ozs and there is NO EARTHLY WAY I would even CONSIDER breeding her. My small Yorkie, Daisha, weighs a little over 3 lbs and I would never breed her either. It breaks my heart to see that people breed these 2 & 3 lb dogs. Such a shame.

12-09-2005, 04:43 AM	#127
hunniebunnie Follower of Yorkietology Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Cali-fo-nee-ya Posts: 1,325	whoa, i can't believe i just went through all 9 pages of this. very heated discussion indeed! i'm a newbie here so lemme see if i got this right: - tinies as pets - okay - tinies as mothers - bad - breeders who breed their tinies - very bad - people who claim to know more than they actually know must own very big oar to back-paddle does that about summarizes the last 9 pages. btw, my vet says special cases may apply but bitches under 5 lbs should not be bred, and i shouldn't have to worry about it 'cause i have a boy.