DeGeneres Under Fire for Giving Away Dog

[crystalsmom]

Originally Posted by JENNGENE01_

Like I have stated before I am with a rescue and not all of us are as bad. We don't turn down people because they have a full time job or no fenced in yard. There are some dogs that need it and we tell all prospective about that one particular dog. But not all of our dogs need to have someone in at all times. At least that is what we do we read through that application to see if they are suitable. For example if they would hit there dog. Believe it or not most people tell us that they will smack the dog or tie it up in their kitchen all day until it is housetrained We have provisions such as no kids under 10 however we do make an exception. We would bring several other dogs with us during the homevisit to see how the child would react. So to say that rescues are bad really hurts me alot I give my life and time to these dogs and carefully place each one. We have rules in place to protect them and only them because if we can't protect them then no one will. Like I said before I understand the families pain but rules are rules. Contracts are contracts if this was any other person no one would care.

in addition to someone asking me about were I heard about the family not filling out the application it was on cnn.

Thanks for your answer. I was in hope someone would post saying you can work around some of these issues. I would think a person that works 9-5 and could have someone come in the middle of the day would work out but of course people do not always tell the truth. So are you saying that each and every rescue can dictate their own rules?? I have a email with some questions to the rescue we have here and I do hope they are more like yours. I agree with Baby Fidgette that since both parties made mistakes why couldn't these children have their dog unless there is more to it which could very well be the case.

[DesertChildAZ]

Originally Posted by crystalsmom

I would like to see this answered and did not want to post over you but would like to add this

If you work 9-5 it's a NO

so then you go to the family with a stay home mom/dad and they stay home because they have sm. children so that is a NO

then you think I know a retired person doesn't work and doesn't have sm. children but that's a NO because they would not have a fenced in yard in most cases because most move from their home to an apt.

I did not know it was so strict.

Not to mention that when adopting out to older people, there is a great risk of that older person dying and leaving a fully grown dog orphaned. We've all seen countless stories of people trying to find homes for dogs because their owners passed away.

[DesertChildAZ]

Originally Posted by Breeze

Should the rescue of broken their policies for Ellen and the family because she is a star or for good publicity?

Well, the rescue DID clearly break it's policies by not requiring Ellen to fill out an application or succumb to a home inspection of HER home before the dog was placed with Ellen. And why do you think they did this? Yes, because she is a star.

[Breeze]

Originally Posted by DesertChildAZ

Well, the rescue DID clearly break it's policies by not requiring Ellen to fill out an application or succumb to a home inspection of HER home before the dog was placed with Ellen. And why do you think they did this? Yes, because she is a star.

Did I not say the rescue should of screened Portia and Ellen better in the first place? The rescue probably realized the mistake she made by not screening them and was trying to prevent anymore.

I don't think the rescue was innocent, she made mistakes. She does not deserve to have her life, rescue and business ruined, all that happened because Ellen went to the media.

I just don't understand people defending Ellen's actions, so much of this would of been prevented if they followed the contract Portia signed.

[SugarMama]

I heard that the rescue lady threatened to go to the media so I guess Ellen just saved her the time.

[MeganS]

I am so upset by what I'm reading right now. First of all, Ellen didn't badmouth rescues AT ALL. She explained the situation. She was EMOTIONAL about it. Are you people telling me if you spent ALL that money, got attatched to a dog, sadly had to give it away, and then had it taken out of your life completley you wouldn't be emotionally scarred? We all say ALL the time that we would do ANYTHING to get our dogs back if they were taken from us. Jeez. Ellen wasn't trying to get people to send death threats. She was asking for the dog back. I am so furious right now.

[BabyFidgette]

Originally Posted by MeganS

I am so upset by what I'm reading right now. First of all, Ellen didn't badmouth rescues AT ALL. She explained the situation. She was EMOTIONAL about it. Are you people telling me if you spent ALL that money, got attatched to a dog, sadly had to give it away, and then had it taken out of your life completley you wouldn't be emotionally scarred? We all say ALL the time that we would do ANYTHING to get our dogs back if they were taken from us. Jeez. Ellen wasn't trying to get people to send death threats. She was asking for the dog back. I am so furious right now.

Megan, you are very smart and word your posts so well.

[MaxwellHouse]

It is so sad that this rescue woman couldn't use common sense. It's silly to think girls under 14 arent' acceptable; girls from 9-13 are probably the best to have with little dogs. What a sad situation.

[Breeze]

Originally Posted by MeganS

I am so upset by what I'm reading right now. First of all, Ellen didn't badmouth rescues AT ALL. She explained the situation. She was EMOTIONAL about it. Are you people telling me if you spent ALL that money, got attatched to a dog, sadly had to give it away, and then had it taken out of your life completley you wouldn't be emotionally scarred? We all say ALL the time that we would do ANYTHING to get our dogs back if they were taken from us. Jeez. Ellen wasn't trying to get people to send death threats. She was asking for the dog back. I am so furious right now.

Megan, I'm so upset too, but do not believe that Portia and Ellen gave a lot of thought into this whole situation. They just did a lot of actions without thinking about the conqenences.

1. Getting a dog without thinking about how it would work with their cats.

2. Not reading the contract.

3. Spending money to train the dog but not giving anytime for the dog to have a chance to change behavior (it takes more than 2 weeks for any animal to settle in a new environment).

4. Giving the dog away without permission.

I do feel bad for Ellen, Portia and the family, but feel that if someone truly cared about the dog they got from a rescue they would of bothered to read the contract, thought about bringing the animal in their home, if whether or not their cats would get along with it.....

I think someone who cares puts more thought into bringing a pet home, they do not give it up after 2 weeks. The amount of money someone spends does not make them care or be good animal owners.

Then they gave the dog illegally ( I know they claim not to have known that, but all they would of had to do was take the time to read the contract)away to someone else after after spending tons of money on training that they did not even give a chance to work does not show me attachment.

If they did some planning about the responsibility of pet ownership and if the rescue would of screened them better, none of this would of happened.

[Janie616]

Originally Posted by Breeze

I'm sorry but after what Ellen did by getting the media involved causing all this to happen when it could of been dealt with privately, I do not blame the rescue lady for not giving the family the dog after it all ruined her life and hurt the rescue when all she did was follow thru the rescue's policies. I am not one for suing but I would be getting myself a very good lawyer these words sound litigious to me ... to sue for whatever damages, compensation or for what ever I could.

I'm sure poor Ellen slept well in her mansion.

from what I understand, Ellen only responded to the media AFTER the rescue agency dragged her into it ...

[crystalsmom]

Originally Posted by Breeze

Megan, I'm so upset too, but do not believe that Portia and Ellen gave a lot of thought into this whole situation. They just did a lot of actions without thinking about the conqenences.

1. Getting a dog without thinking about how it would work with their cats.

2. Not reading the contract.

3. Spending money to train the dog but not giving anytime for the dog to have a chance to change behavior (it takes more than 2 weeks for any animal to settle in a new environment).

4. Giving the dog away without permission.

I do feel bad for Ellen, Portia and the family, but feel that if someone truly cared about the dog they got from a rescue they would of bothered to read the contract, thought about bringing the animal in their home, if whether or not their cats would get along with it.....

I think someone who cares puts more thought into bringing a pet home, they do not give it up after 2 weeks. The amount of money someone spends does not make them care or be good animal owners.

Then they gave the dog illegally ( I know they claim not to have known that, but all they would of had to do was take the time to read the contract)away to someone else after after spending tons of money on training that they did not even give a chance to work does not show me attachment.

If they did some planning about the responsibility of pet ownership and if the rescue would of screened them better, none of this would of happened.

There are two sides to every story and I am somewhere in the middle right now until we get all the facts. Now they are saying "under 14" was not a part of the contract so right now it's hard to tell what correct info we have.

[BabyFidgette]

Originally Posted by crystalsmom

There are two sides to every story and I am somewhere in the middle right now until we get all the facts. Now they are saying "under 14" was not a part of the contract so right now it's hard to tell what correct info we have.

Really? Where does it say this? I'd love to read it.

[crystalsmom]

Originally Posted by BabyFidgette

Really? Where does it say this? I'd love to read it.

On this thread, I'll find it after the game.

[BubblPopElectrc]

LOS ANGELES, Calif. (October 18, 2007) — As the controversy over Ellen’s dog adoption gone awry continues, Access Hollywood has learned that Mutts & Moms may have other business issues to contend with that could affect their position in the Iggy dispute.

According to the California Secretary of State’s Web site, the Mutts & Moms corporation has been suspended since December 2006 when they failed to file a “statement of information.”

Access Hollywood has verified the corporation is still suspended as of today.

The “statement of information” is a document that lists who their officers are. However, as soon as the form is submitted, the agency can revive their corporation.

As a result of the suspension, enforcing the contract with Ellen and Portia may be impossible for the agency, as both the original adoption of Iggy and the date the agency reclaimed possession of the pet happened after the suspension began.

Access Hollywood has placed a call to Mutts & Moms, as well as their attorney, for comment. No response was received at the time of publication.

Access has also learned that Ellen cancelled her show tapings scheduled for Thursday. One audience hopeful told Access that Ellen’s staff explained to people that she is too exhausted and taking time off.

Ellen had two tapings scheduled today. Keith Urban was the guest on one. Jerry Seinfeld who is on “The Tonight Show with Jay Leno” tonight was supposed to pop over to Ellen after. And John Edwards’ wife, Elizabeth, was a guest on another.

Access learned from a security guard that Keith Urban is still going to perform in front of Ellen’s audience. Those audience members who were turned away for the taping were offered alternative dates to come back.

http://www.accesshollywood.com/news/ah7128.shtml

This would be awesome if it allows the family to get the dog back! I can understand why they are so upset.. that had the dog for quite a bit.

It's sad how quickly the agency out. It shows you how concerned they were about the whole issue.

[BubblPopElectrc]

Kind of off topic but Access Hollywood said they are going to have a story coming up on puppy mills!