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BabyFidgette · 10-17-2007, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BubblPopElectrc

Just in: The attorney for Mutts & Moms tells "The Insider" that ELLEN DeGENERES' formerly adopted dog has been placed in a new home.

On her show Wednesday, Ellen addressed the importance of micro-chipping pets to insure proper ownership. She contends that the reason she cannot claim ownership of her adopted dog, IGGY, is because his identity chip was still registered to the rescue agency.

Sources tell ET that while the agency claims Ellen broke her contract by giving him away to a trusted co-worker, the Mutts & Moms owners themselves have not followed all the rules set by their company. They allegedly did not require Ellen or her partner PORTIA DeROSSI to fill out an application, nor did they change the registered owner information as they said they would.

Additionally, it is said the contract in question does not contain an age clause, another reason given by Mutts & Moms for taking back the dog.

Our sources also tell us the family Ellen gave the dog to -- her hairdresser, his wife and their two pre-teen daughters -- did fill out an application online when the dog took up residence with them. It was at that time the agency said they would come out to inspect their property as part of the adoption process. Instead, they reclaimed the dog and calling the police. As Mutts & Moms were officially registered as the owners by the chip, authorities turned over custody to them.

http://www.theinsideronline.com/news...361/index.html

So sad and disappointing.

I'm sure this isn't the end of it though.

I just watched that video, and started crying. That is just so utterly sad. I hope this new family has a heart and attempts to give the pup back to Ellen's hair dresser.

Jenn218 · 10-17-2007, 02:16 PM

So, what is the outcome....is there an outcome (happy ending) yet?
I know that there are rules, but this is just horrible.

For My Coby · 10-17-2007, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jenn218

So, what is the outcome....is there an outcome (happy ending) yet?
I know that there are rules, but this is just horrible.

I don't think we'll know the final "outcome" or the final "impact" for a while. But I hope that all the publicity will keep it in the spotlight until then! I hope that if the "rescue" group does change their name after the negative publicity as someone has suggested, that we'll be able to track it down. I don't believe in hounding people forever just for the sake of hounding them, but they should just own up to the situation and agree to take another look at how they handled it; not just sneak away and start over.......

littlewhip · 10-17-2007, 02:21 PM

I hope this has a happy ending, and the kids get the baby back, I was so

when i watched that. i like ellen and IMO she did the right thing

DesertChildAZ · 10-17-2007, 02:42 PM

Keep in mind that Ellen, a devoted dog lover, probably dealt with alot of grief over giving the dog over to her hairdresser's family in the first place. It's my understanding that she tried everything to acclimate the dog with her cats and the dog was just too rambuncious and energetic and they weren't getting along as a result. So, with high hopes, she took this dog in and what great disappointment it must have been for her to know that she had to give the dog up because, afterall, her cats were there first.

And now this, on top of it all. Too sad.

BabyFidgette · 10-17-2007, 02:44 PM

FYI: If anyone wants to contact this lady. She can't even spell boutique.

Registrant:
paw bouique
Marina Baktis
435 S. El Molino #6
Pasadena, CA 91101
US
Email: pawboutique@yahoo.com

Registrar Name....: REGISTER.COM, INC.
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: www.register.com

Domain Name: pawboutique.com

Created on..............: Fri, Aug 03, 2001
Expires on..............: Fri, Aug 03, 2012
Record last updated on..: Tue, Aug 14, 2007

Administrative Contact:
paw bouique
Marina Baktis
578 MC Wilton Place
Altadena, CA 91001
US
Phone: 6267977662
Email: mbaktis@hotmail.com

http://www.networksolutions.com/whoi...awboutique.com

crystalsmom · 10-17-2007, 03:12 PM

Thanks for the update. So they have already put this dog in another home.

celstu1 · 10-17-2007, 03:34 PM

I didn't know the story so I didn't comment, but I just saw it on the news! UGH!!
That woman from the rescue had the NERVE to come out and say shes being painted as the villian! She is absolutely RIDICULOUS! The house and family looked like GREAT candidates for the dog! They had a dog already too! I think this woman was looking for her 15 mins of fame by doing this! She was taking her 'anger' from Ellen out on that poor family with that poor child! She called the police because of threatening phone calls (which is unnecessary really) but what did she expect by doing what she did??

This is where I have problems with rescues! There was NO reason that woman could not go to the house and interview the family and use the same guidelines as she would for any other family! Anyways, rescues are WWAAYYY too strict IMHO! I totally understand they want to find forever homes, but they reject sooooo many people for assinine reasons! I got denied at one time because I worked FULL time!!! COME ON NOW!!!

Anyways, Im pretty upset by all this for the family and for Ellen who gave a dog she could not keep to a good deserving family! That woman should be REMOVED from that rescue! Too bad she owns it!

(at least thats what I think she said on tv tonight)

OH and they also said that she already adopted the dog out to another family!! B**CH!!!

celstu1 · 10-17-2007, 03:45 PM

check this out!
http://www.etonline.com/news/2007/10/54901/index.html

she just wants her fame! She said it was too small a dog for a kid! The kid was 12!!!!! Not 2!!!

mypreciouspups · 10-17-2007, 04:35 PM

I went to this site, and I guess she must have had some nastygrams as it is now temporily down...

This is when she will make a new site for herself. She will not have the nerve to have that same site up and running again, too many people are too upset over what she has done to not only the dog but those children..

pooh's mum

nvnvgirl · 10-17-2007, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by celstu1

check this out!
http://www.etonline.com/news/2007/10/54901/index.html

she just wants her fame! She said it was too small a dog for a kid! The kid was 12!!!!! Not 2!!!

Not only that ...how long is a dog a freakin puppy for????That dog is going to be BIG....and not in a few years.....she's a control freak who just wants to make a name for herself...LOL..yeah, well, she HAS...a really BAD name! I think people should stay on this as to what her new domain name is and make sure she isn't allowed to do this again. It's really disgusting.

Breeze · 10-17-2007, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BabyFidgette

FYI: If anyone wants to contact this lady. She can't even spell boutique.

Registrant:
paw bouique
Marina Baktis
435 S. El Molino #6
Pasadena, CA 91101
US
Email: pawboutique@yahoo.com

Registrar Name....: REGISTER.COM, INC.
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: www.register.com

Domain Name: pawboutique.com

Created on..............: Fri, Aug 03, 2001
Expires on..............: Fri, Aug 03, 2012
Record last updated on..: Tue, Aug 14, 2007

Administrative Contact:
paw bouique
Marina Baktis
578 MC Wilton Place
Altadena, CA 91001
US
Phone: 6267977662
Email: mbaktis@hotmail.com

http://www.networksolutions.com/whoi...awboutique.com

Thank you for posting this, I would like to send her my support. I think the whole situation is sad but Portia (Ellen's girlfriend) who signed the contract did not follow her obligation or legal agreement to return the dog to the agency.

It was Ellen and Portia who did the wrong thing, not the rescue lady. They are the ones who caused the heartbreak by not following the agreement. Almost all rescues and even breeders have this clause in their contract. It is so they can be sure the animals will find a good home and not end up in the shelters to be put down. This is a good rule and it's there for a reason, the rescue has a right to look out for the dog.

Portia and Ellen should of made sure that what they did by giving the dog away was OK with the agency first, before putting the dog and the family though all of this.

Sure maybe the family might be a good home, but Ellen and Portia should of let the agency decide first, not make them out to be the bad guy after they were the ones in the wrong.

Should the agency of handled it better? Maybe, but they should not of been in this position in the first place, The legal agreement should of been kept.

Also by her publicity, Ellen is hurting rescues out there by all of this, so many people out there now will not be going to rescues for their next pet or want to go through the hassle after seeing this. These people will turn to BYBs and pet stores.

Sad.

yorkiegirl83 · 10-17-2007, 06:46 PM

I agree that the agency was within their rights to claim the dog if there was in fact an application, but I think they could have used MUCH more tact than what they did.

JENNGENE01_ · 10-18-2007, 05:56 AM

I think that Ellen is trying to make all rescues look bad. I understand that the family is upset but the issue is also that the family didn't event want to fill out an adoption application because they said it was to long. If they really wanted the Iggy they should have understood that they obtained the dog illegally and should have worked with the rescue group by filling out all necessary paper work. It is said yes we all know it but there guidelines that need to followed to insure that safety of the dog.

I am part of a rescue as well and we have the same rules on our contracts. The rule is place to protect the dogs that we adopt out. We place them in FOREVER homes not homes to give out to another home. If for what ever reason you are not able to take care of the dog you are to let us know and we will deal with the rehoming. There has been so many times that this has happened before that people took it upon themselves to rehome a dog that they adopted to a family who has no clue how to care for a dog and the next thing we know is that we are getting a call from a shelter or vet that the dog is being euthanized. IF this had happened to a regular person and not a celebrity I'm pretty sure everyone would be on the side of rescue. We take in these dogs that have been starved and thrown out like garbage and we take care of them and treat them with love and care.

Breeze · 10-18-2007, 06:18 AM

The more I think about this , the madder I get. What Ellen has done by getting the media involved, did not help the family get the dog back, it has ruined the woman, her rescue, hurt all rescues in general (due to the many, many people who now say they will never save a rescue dog now because of this), ruined the woman's business. Because of Ellen this woman does not feel safe in her home and is receiving death threats.

If Ellen would of went to the agency before giving the dog to the family all of this would of turned out differently, the family would of had a better chance of getting the dog, the heartbreak and all of this would of been prevented.

I'm sorry but after what Ellen did by getting the media involved causing all this to happen when it could of been dealt with privately, I do not blame the rescue lady for not giving the family the dog after it all ruined her life and hurt the rescue when all she did was follow thru the rescue's policies. I am not one for suing but I would be getting myself a very good lawyer to sue for whatever damages, compensation or for what ever I could.

I'm sure poor Ellen slept well in her mansion.

10-17-2007, 02:16 PM	#62
Jenn218 Mojo, LilyGrace & Me Donating Member Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: cuddling with my babies<3 Posts: 17,329	So, what is the outcome....is there an outcome (happy ending) yet? I know that there are rules, but this is just horrible. __________________ Hi I'm Jenn Mom to..... Mojo,LilyGrace & DD Kate RIP Mojo FOREVER in our hearts!

10-17-2007, 02:21 PM	#64
littlewhip Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: wiith my furbabys Posts: 8,874	I hope this has a happy ending, and the kids get the baby back, I was so when i watched that. i like ellen and IMO she did the right thing __________________

10-17-2007, 02:42 PM	#65
DesertChildAZ YT Addict Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Chandler, AZ Posts: 349	Keep in mind that Ellen, a devoted dog lover, probably dealt with alot of grief over giving the dog over to her hairdresser's family in the first place. It's my understanding that she tried everything to acclimate the dog with her cats and the dog was just too rambuncious and energetic and they weren't getting along as a result. So, with high hopes, she took this dog in and what great disappointment it must have been for her to know that she had to give the dog up because, afterall, her cats were there first. And now this, on top of it all. Too sad. __________________ Don't feed your yorkies "Greenies". Their lives depend on it.

10-17-2007, 02:44 PM	#66
BabyFidgette Learn Yorkie CPR! Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 6,855	FYI: If anyone wants to contact this lady. She can't even spell boutique. Registrant: paw bouique Marina Baktis 435 S. El Molino #6 Pasadena, CA 91101 US Email: pawboutique@yahoo.com Registrar Name....: REGISTER.COM, INC. Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com Registrar Homepage: www.register.com Domain Name: pawboutique.com Created on..............: Fri, Aug 03, 2001 Expires on..............: Fri, Aug 03, 2012 Record last updated on..: Tue, Aug 14, 2007 Administrative Contact: paw bouique Marina Baktis 578 MC Wilton Place Altadena, CA 91001 US Phone: 6267977662 Email: mbaktis@hotmail.com http://www.networksolutions.com/whoi...awboutique.com __________________ Nicole & Baby "The more men I meet, the more I love my Yorkie!"

10-17-2007, 03:12 PM	#67
crystalsmom Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,946	Thanks for the update. So they have already put this dog in another home. __________________

10-17-2007, 03:34 PM	#68
celstu1 Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 10,534	I didn't know the story so I didn't comment, but I just saw it on the news! UGH!! That woman from the rescue had the NERVE to come out and say shes being painted as the villian! She is absolutely RIDICULOUS! The house and family looked like GREAT candidates for the dog! They had a dog already too! I think this woman was looking for her 15 mins of fame by doing this! She was taking her 'anger' from Ellen out on that poor family with that poor child! She called the police because of threatening phone calls (which is unnecessary really) but what did she expect by doing what she did?? This is where I have problems with rescues! There was NO reason that woman could not go to the house and interview the family and use the same guidelines as she would for any other family! Anyways, rescues are WWAAYYY too strict IMHO! I totally understand they want to find forever homes, but they reject sooooo many people for assinine reasons! I got denied at one time because I worked FULL time!!! COME ON NOW!!! Anyways, Im pretty upset by all this for the family and for Ellen who gave a dog she could not keep to a good deserving family! That woman should be REMOVED from that rescue! Too bad she owns it! (at least thats what I think she said on tv tonight) OH and they also said that she already adopted the dog out to another family!! B**CH!!! __________________ “Petting, scratching, and cuddling a dog could be as soothing to the mind and heart as deep meditation and almost as good for the soul as prayer.” ― Dean Koontz

10-17-2007, 03:45 PM	#69
celstu1 Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 10,534	check this out! http://www.etonline.com/news/2007/10/54901/index.html she just wants her fame! She said it was too small a dog for a kid! The kid was 12!!!!! Not 2!!! __________________ “Petting, scratching, and cuddling a dog could be as soothing to the mind and heart as deep meditation and almost as good for the soul as prayer.” ― Dean Koontz

10-17-2007, 04:35 PM	#70
mypreciouspups Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Florida/Canada Posts: 5,514	site not up I went to this site, and I guess she must have had some nastygrams as it is now temporily down... This is when she will make a new site for herself. She will not have the nerve to have that same site up and running again, too many people are too upset over what she has done to not only the dog but those children.. pooh's mum

10-17-2007, 06:46 PM	#73
yorkiegirl83 Love My Furbabies! Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: somewhere Posts: 4,427	I agree that the agency was within their rights to claim the dog if there was in fact an application, but I think they could have used MUCH more tact than what they did.

10-18-2007, 05:56 AM	#74
JENNGENE01_ Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: SADDLE BROOK Posts: 145	I think that Ellen is trying to make all rescues look bad. I understand that the family is upset but the issue is also that the family didn't event want to fill out an adoption application because they said it was to long. If they really wanted the Iggy they should have understood that they obtained the dog illegally and should have worked with the rescue group by filling out all necessary paper work. It is said yes we all know it but there guidelines that need to followed to insure that safety of the dog. I am part of a rescue as well and we have the same rules on our contracts. The rule is place to protect the dogs that we adopt out. We place them in FOREVER homes not homes to give out to another home. If for what ever reason you are not able to take care of the dog you are to let us know and we will deal with the rehoming. There has been so many times that this has happened before that people took it upon themselves to rehome a dog that they adopted to a family who has no clue how to care for a dog and the next thing we know is that we are getting a call from a shelter or vet that the dog is being euthanized. IF this had happened to a regular person and not a celebrity I'm pretty sure everyone would be on the side of rescue. We take in these dogs that have been starved and thrown out like garbage and we take care of them and treat them with love and care.

10-18-2007, 06:18 AM	#75
Breeze Puppy Luv Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 2,678	The more I think about this , the madder I get. What Ellen has done by getting the media involved, did not help the family get the dog back, it has ruined the woman, her rescue, hurt all rescues in general (due to the many, many people who now say they will never save a rescue dog now because of this), ruined the woman's business. Because of Ellen this woman does not feel safe in her home and is receiving death threats. If Ellen would of went to the agency before giving the dog to the family all of this would of turned out differently, the family would of had a better chance of getting the dog, the heartbreak and all of this would of been prevented. I'm sorry but after what Ellen did by getting the media involved causing all this to happen when it could of been dealt with privately, I do not blame the rescue lady for not giving the family the dog after it all ruined her life and hurt the rescue when all she did was follow thru the rescue's policies. I am not one for suing but I would be getting myself a very good lawyer to sue for whatever damages, compensation or for what ever I could. I'm sure poor Ellen slept well in her mansion. Last edited by Breeze; 10-18-2007 at 06:19 AM.