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Amber_lv · 10-01-2007, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by drawlins27

I know you didn't mean it like this but as someone who does rescue and sees what can happen, I care. Yes, it is their choice but as lovers of all things Yorkie, we can and should educate them so that they make an informed choice. In a manner that is not rude of course

i want to clairify that i didn't nessasarily mean you shouldn't care i just ment that it shouldn't be such a hot topic and handled so horribly. Sorry i guess i should have worded it better. i do care just not to be rude

drawlins27 · 10-01-2007, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Amber_lv

i want to clairify that i didn't nessasarily mean you shouldn't care i just ment that it shouldn't be such a hot topic and handled so horribly. Sorry i guess i should have worded it better. i do care just not to be rude

Oh I completely understand, I knew you didn't mean it like that! We all love yorkies so much that sometimes its just too hard to keep our big mouths shut

I think we could all benefit from learning to take a deep breath and taking a step back before posting sometimes.

Amber_lv · 10-01-2007, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by drawlins27

Oh I completely understand, I knew you didn't mean it like that! We all love yorkies so much that sometimes its just too hard to keep our big mouths shut

I think we could all benefit from learning to take a deep breath and taking a step back before posting sometimes.

agree!

Yorkielove123 · 10-01-2007, 01:02 PM

Amen Amber lv!!!!!!!!!!

dizpatch · 10-01-2007, 02:24 PM

Amber my hat is off to you!!! You gutsy gal for speaking your mind!

This is why I take so many breaks from YT!
When I am on YT I don't always post, but I read through the threads that interest me. Then Wham! Some one gets slammed for their opinion or for asking a question. So I close out of that thread and go on to another. When there have been to many "Whammys" I just sign off of YT! That is how I deal with it.
I come on to YT to catch up with friends, OK and see who is selling really cute clothes.
There will always be those people around that have to slam others no matter what. The one thing I have noticed since I joined is that, the people that make life hard for others usually end up going away.

As adults we all need to remember what we have taught our children, at least this is what I have taught mine.
1. Your opinion is just that. An opinion. It is yours. No one can take it from you.(except your mother

Just kidding)
2. How do you learn? By asking questions!! There is no such thing as a dumb question. And think of how many people you help out by asking the question, who were afraid to ask themselves.

So on that happy note I leave you with this, the girls and I heard this on TV and it makes me laugh.

Every one just needs to calm down.......Take a break..........Eat a cookie!!!

abbie's mom · 10-01-2007, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

Here's another question and point to consider: At what point do you post based on the dog's well being vs the person who may have their feelings hurt? Where do you draw that line?

I.e. "I'm going to breed my 2 1/2 pound female" At what point do you take the dog's interest to heart and base a response on what's best for her vs 'not caring' and refraining from posting altogether?

I remember being particularly moved by one of these, lately, and did some condescending thrashing of my own. It takes a lot to make me really really angry; but, I think when we react strongly to such situations, we are acting on behalf of a tiny female that canNOT defend herself. And, I will just have to stay away from threads like that when I see them, as I can't promise to react any differently than what I have. God has given us dominion over HIS creatures, and we are held accountable for protecting them when we can. Now, with that being said.....

judyeve · 10-01-2007, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by abbie's mom

I remember being particularly moved by one of these, lately, and did some condescending thrashing of my own. It takes a lot to make me really really angry; but, I think when we react strongly to such situations, we are acting on behalf of a tiny female that canNOT defend herself. And, I will just have to stay away from threads like that when I see them, as I can't promise to react any differently than what I have. God has given us dominion over HIS creatures, and we are held accountable for protecting them when we can. Now, with that being said.....

That attachment is cute.

I think what you said is a good idea, but I would just keep an eye to make sure that somebody does say it tactfully. When we get passionate, we sometimes don't remember tact. If nobody does tell that person that breeding such a small dog can be dangerous for the dog, the puppies, etc., then I would jump in and say it.

MyTrixie143 · 10-01-2007, 03:40 PM

Amber I am glad you brought this up. It is something I have been thinking about a lot lately.

When I first came here to YT, it was great. Everyone was so nice and there were very few heated topics or debates.

I admit I don't post as often anymore because it seems there are so many heated topics now. I miss YT.

I think everyone is entitled their opinion and should share it. However you should consider the person's feelings and do it in a constructive non insulting or threatening way.

As for being sensitive, I guess many would call me sensitive because I have seen numerous threads where things were said to the OP that if it were me I would have taken offense as well.

I think the two people here on YT that I admire most is Mardelin and Pat (yorkie rose).
They are very passionate about the breed. They do their best to help everyone. And while they may disagree with someone they do it in a respectful manner. They keep their cool and calmly try to educate the person without it seeming like they are bashing or insulting the person. This is more than I can say for others who have completely lost many times are have down right insulted or bashed someone. I think if we all strive to be more like these two wonderful people, YT would be so much better off.

Bottom line, I love YT and I love the people here. Just please think it over carefully what you are going to type.
The goal is to educate and if you go about it in a rude or insulting way, it gets you no where other than in a big fight. But if you stay calm about it and try your best to educate without insulting or being rude, you will accomplish so much more.

I know I myself would consider taking advice from someone being nice to me even if I disagreed with it rather than I would ever consider taking advice from someone being rude to me.

Mardelin · 10-01-2007, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by abbie's mom

I remember being particularly moved by one of these, lately, and did some condescending thrashing of my own. It takes a lot to make me really really angry; but, I think when we react strongly to such situations, we are acting on behalf of a tiny female that canNOT defend herself. And, I will just have to stay away from threads like that when I see them, as I can't promise to react any differently than what I have. God has given us dominion over HIS creatures, and we are held accountable for protecting them when we can. Now, with that being said.....

I'm in total agreement with both of you. It's very difficult to maintain your cool when it concerns these lil ones.

Someone else said it's your dog and you can do with it what you want.....I'm not buying that. Once you post something as (IMO) drastic as my 2 1/2 pound girl is pregnant on an open forum and it becomes public........well, you're pretty much asking for a lot of hard comments. I don't know of anyone on this forum that would not be upset by that.

And as you said God has given us dominion over His creatures......but, alot of people just see them as possessions.

judyeve · 10-02-2007, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Mardelin

I'm in total agreement with both of you. It's very difficult to maintain your cool when it concerns these lil ones.

Someone else said it's your dog and you can do with it what you want.....I'm not buying that. Once you post something as (IMO) drastic as my 2 1/2 pound girl is pregnant on an open forum and it becomes public........well, you're pretty much asking for a lot of hard comments. I don't know of anyone on this forum that would not be upset by that.

And as you said God has given us dominion over His creatures......but, alot of people just see them as possessions.

I do agree with that Mary. People can breed their 2 1/2 pounders, and they can post it here, but it is our responsibility to at least try to educate them as to the dangers and why it is not the right thing to do.

As a school teacher, I have been in similar situations often. I've seen and heard parents acting terribly irresponsibly, even abusive, to their children.
Try being tactful about that! In fact, if I didn't report abuse, I could have been fired.

On YT, it's not against the law to not say anything, but it is irresponsible (in my opinion). That mother can die, the puppies can die, they can be born terribly damaged, etc.

On the other hand, 17 people don't have to call the person an idiot. PMing is a wonderful thing also. Then, nobody is embarrassed.

But, if you don't feel that way, or you don't want to say anything or even if you do feel it's not our business - fine. Somebody will surely come along and
say it anyway.

parker · 01-07-2008, 12:14 AM

I just found this thread, as I don't think I was a member when it was started and I just want to give you a thumbs up. Thanks girl for posting this. I have been on here I think for just about 2 months and I feel I see so much of this. Hats off to you to speak your mind. I have wanted to start a thread like this myself many times but decided not to...why...to avoid any controversy. I am not one to stand down on my feelings or beliefs but I am one that picks her own battles and like to keep a peace when I am on here. Others on the other side of the spectrum don't act much like that. They argue and make people feel like they are 2ft tall. Anyways, again, thank you for posting this as I really appreciate it!

kosoma · 01-07-2008, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by judyeve

On the other hand, 17 people don't have to call the person an idiot.

I just saw this thread...to the OP, this is a great thread! I am relatively new, and this is something that has bothered me from the beginning.

Besides the tone of the posts, I agree with the quote above, why do there have to be so many posts saying exactly the same thing.....In a recent (and typical) thread involving breeding with well over 100 total posts, two-thirds of the posts were telling the person they shouldn't have been breeding, etc., etc. I think if they haven't gotton the point in the first few posts it is just wasting everyone's time.

This is just my opinion.

I will keep reading YT for the valuable info, enjoy the fruitful and kind debates, and ignore the rest.

domesticated08 · 01-07-2008, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by kosoma

I just saw this thread...to the OP, this is a great thread! I am relatively new, and this is something that has bothered me from the beginning.

Besides the tone of the posts, I agree with the quote above, why do there have to be so many posts saying exactly the same thing.....In a recent (and typical) thread involving breeding with well over 100 total posts, two-thirds of the posts were telling the person they shouldn't have been breeding, etc., etc. I think if they haven't gotton the point in the first few posts it is just wasting everyone's time.

This is just my opinion.

I will keep reading YT for the valuable info, enjoy the fruitful and kind debates, and ignore the rest.

MrYorkiecrazy · 01-07-2008, 06:08 PM

Past generations taught their children to be polite, to have manners, to have patience, and be tolerant and understanding of others.

Needless to say, I'm trying to make up for what my parents didn't teach me.

yougetthesmiles · 01-08-2008, 01:41 PM

I agree with you! When Baby got pregnant, I heard it big time! I was so close to not saying anything, just cause I knew what was going to happen! But I did cause I knew I would need help. Most people come here for help and advice, not to be put down or ridiculed!
I'm sure everyone will really flip out when they hear I'm going to breed Baby again one more time! Ohh Well, MY DOG, MY CHOICE! Having puppies has been the greatest gift I could have ever asked for! These puppies are more loved and more spoiled then you will ever know! So when you hear that Baby is preggo again, please don't flip out! lol

10-01-2007, 01:02 PM	#139
Yorkielove123 YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 882	Amen Amber lv!!!!!!!!!! __________________ Libby, Bounce, Romeo, & Isabella Go colts!!!

10-01-2007, 02:24 PM	#140
dizpatch Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: WA Posts: 695	Amber my hat is off to you!!! You gutsy gal for speaking your mind! This is why I take so many breaks from YT! When I am on YT I don't always post, but I read through the threads that interest me. Then Wham! Some one gets slammed for their opinion or for asking a question. So I close out of that thread and go on to another. When there have been to many "Whammys" I just sign off of YT! That is how I deal with it. I come on to YT to catch up with friends, OK and see who is selling really cute clothes. There will always be those people around that have to slam others no matter what. The one thing I have noticed since I joined is that, the people that make life hard for others usually end up going away. As adults we all need to remember what we have taught our children, at least this is what I have taught mine. 1. Your opinion is just that. An opinion. It is yours. No one can take it from you.(except your mother Just kidding) 2. How do you learn? By asking questions!! There is no such thing as a dumb question. And think of how many people you help out by asking the question, who were afraid to ask themselves. So on that happy note I leave you with this, the girls and I heard this on TV and it makes me laugh. Every one just needs to calm down.......Take a break..........Eat a cookie!!! __________________ Proud Mommy to Annie Muriel

10-01-2007, 03:40 PM	#143
MyTrixie143 Mom to 6 Beautiful Furkids Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 5,409	Amber I am glad you brought this up. It is something I have been thinking about a lot lately. When I first came here to YT, it was great. Everyone was so nice and there were very few heated topics or debates. I admit I don't post as often anymore because it seems there are so many heated topics now. I miss YT. I think everyone is entitled their opinion and should share it. However you should consider the person's feelings and do it in a constructive non insulting or threatening way. As for being sensitive, I guess many would call me sensitive because I have seen numerous threads where things were said to the OP that if it were me I would have taken offense as well. I think the two people here on YT that I admire most is Mardelin and Pat (yorkie rose). They are very passionate about the breed. They do their best to help everyone. And while they may disagree with someone they do it in a respectful manner. They keep their cool and calmly try to educate the person without it seeming like they are bashing or insulting the person. This is more than I can say for others who have completely lost many times are have down right insulted or bashed someone. I think if we all strive to be more like these two wonderful people, YT would be so much better off. Bottom line, I love YT and I love the people here. Just please think it over carefully what you are going to type. The goal is to educate and if you go about it in a rude or insulting way, it gets you no where other than in a big fight. But if you stay calm about it and try your best to educate without insulting or being rude, you will accomplish so much more. I know I myself would consider taking advice from someone being nice to me even if I disagreed with it rather than I would ever consider taking advice from someone being rude to me. __________________ A dog is a furry person! http://www.dogster.com/?300866 Tracey and the gang DestinyHarmonyScamperGracieLillieKiwi Hershey Peppi

01-07-2008, 12:14 AM	#146
parker Mz_s3ski_Kitt3n Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: AZ Posts: 1,921	I just found this thread, as I don't think I was a member when it was started and I just want to give you a thumbs up. Thanks girl for posting this. I have been on here I think for just about 2 months and I feel I see so much of this. Hats off to you to speak your mind. I have wanted to start a thread like this myself many times but decided not to...why...to avoid any controversy. I am not one to stand down on my feelings or beliefs but I am one that picks her own battles and like to keep a peace when I am on here. Others on the other side of the spectrum don't act much like that. They argue and make people feel like they are 2ft tall. Anyways, again, thank you for posting this as I really appreciate it!

01-07-2008, 06:08 PM	#149
MrYorkiecrazy No Longer a Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: City, State, Country Posts: 1,763	Past generations taught their children to be polite, to have manners, to have patience, and be tolerant and understanding of others. Needless to say, I'm trying to make up for what my parents didn't teach me.

01-08-2008, 01:41 PM	#150
yougetthesmiles BANNED FOR NOT MAILING PRODUCTS PURCHASED Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 9,295 Blog Entries: 3	I agree with you! When Baby got pregnant, I heard it big time! I was so close to not saying anything, just cause I knew what was going to happen! But I did cause I knew I would need help. Most people come here for help and advice, not to be put down or ridiculed! I'm sure everyone will really flip out when they hear I'm going to breed Baby again one more time! Ohh Well, MY DOG, MY CHOICE! Having puppies has been the greatest gift I could have ever asked for! These puppies are more loved and more spoiled then you will ever know! So when you hear that Baby is preggo again, please don't flip out! lol