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iloveemmy · 08-13-2007, 02:36 AM

I was going by the information I saw on several on the recipes. All of the ones I looked at had the following statement somewhere on them: "This recipe is copyright protected and may not be reproduced without ____'s (Food Network, Emeril, Southern Living, etc.) consent."

I will back out of the argument now with one last statement, "If I made up the recipe OR had won prizes for the recipe OR had it published in a national cookbook OR had my own TV show where I demonstrated it on national TV, I don't think I would want someone else claiming it as their own."

Once again, sorry and thanks for setting me straight!

DENISE517 · 08-13-2007, 05:19 AM

I havent added yet...I'll add tonight and I'll ad the cake we had for the birthday party for the dogs.

Safire · 08-13-2007, 05:44 AM

If you ask me, that would be some amazing feat to come up with 400 absolutely original recipes that had never been published anywhere before.

Everyone gets their recipes from somewhere, modifies it a little bit, and calls it their own. I get most of mine from www.allrecipes.com, and just change an ingredient or measurement here and there, add a little something else, and ta-da! It's mine.

nvnvgirl · 08-13-2007, 06:01 AM

Where did it specify that the recipes were to be our own original recipes? I thought it was supposed to be our favorite recipes. And as the poster previously stated, all recipes come from SOMEWHERE...there's nothing truly original out there. All you have to do is change ONE ingredient to make it "original" anyway. The rule is, that a collection of recipes can be copyrighted; an individual recipe cannot. I have recipes that have come from everywhere, and a lot that I got from other people; whether they are their own "original" recipes or not, I have no idea. Some of the recipes I submitted are my mom's or my "original" recipe and I don't give a hoot whether someone takes them and puts them in any cookbook or website and makes money off them. More power to them. And, to set the record straight, I was never claiming that all the recipes I submitted as MINE, nor did I suppose the all the other recipes submitted are "original" recipes.

Judy in Waco · 08-13-2007, 06:37 AM

I think we owe Vallery a debt of gratitude! She has volunteered to do editing on the cookbook and to promote it tirelessly.

I want to clarify here that I was trying to support her and not attack her in any way. The issue of copyright law is VERY important and serious. I agree with her on that. I just think the issue needs to be researched a little more before recipes are removed.

I am very proud of everyone's participation in the cookbook! Ya'll (as we say in Texas.

)are doing a GREAT job!

Thank you to YouGetTheSmiles, Vallery and all of the other editors for this wonderful project.

drawlins27 · 08-13-2007, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iloveemmy

I was going by the information I saw on several on the recipes. All of the ones I looked at had the following statement somewhere on them: "This recipe is copyright protected and may not be reproduced without ____'s (Food Network, Emeril, Southern Living, etc.) consent."

I will back out of the argument now with one last statement, "If I made up the recipe OR had won prizes for the recipe OR had it published in a national cookbook OR had my own TV show where I demonstrated it on national TV, I don't think I would want someone else claiming it as their own."

Once again, sorry and thanks for setting me straight!

You make a good point, I don't think we can just ignore those recipes. That statement will have to be removed and the issue dealt with on those recipes. I don't see how they can be copyrighted unless they include extensive instructions on how to prepare the dish, but never the less, I think we should look into those. I'm not sure if we can just cite the source or if we need to rewrite the instructions. Could you PM the name of one of those and I'll look into it further. That's a Great Catch!

Unfortunately, I have entered recipe contests and I have had to sign a piece of paper acknowledging that while the recipe was my own unique creation, it would be made available for public use. It just goes with the territory of creating your own recipe and entering it into a contest. You would hope that anyone using it would give you credit but they don't have to.

Hopefully, no matter where the recipe came from, it is a tried and true recipe that someone has tried and loves.

crystalsmom · 08-13-2007, 02:05 PM

The hospital guild has these cook-books every year and they are so nice and I appreciate all the work you are putting into this one.

Do you think saying "Mary Jones is including a recipe she loves" or has used often or makes for her family.

Rather than: Mary Jones recipe ????
might be better.

jp4m2 · 08-14-2007, 05:01 AM

Are we allowed to use the actual name brand of a product in the recipe as in: Zip Lock, Lowery's, Crisco.... or should we say freezer bag, shortening?

mistyinca · 08-16-2007, 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jp4m2

Are we allowed to use the actual name brand of a product in the recipe as in: Zip Lock, Lowery's, Crisco.... or should we say freezer bag, shortening?

Yes. The only reason not to would be if you were withholding it for advertising money from the company.

mistyinca · 08-16-2007, 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nvnvgirl

Where did it specify that the recipes were to be our own original recipes? I thought it was supposed to be our favorite recipes. And as the poster previously stated, all recipes come from SOMEWHERE...there's nothing truly original out there. All you have to do is change ONE ingredient to make it "original" anyway. The rule is, that a collection of recipes can be copyrighted; an individual recipe cannot. I have recipes that have come from everywhere, and a lot that I got from other people; whether they are their own "original" recipes or not, I have no idea. Some of the recipes I submitted are my mom's or my "original" recipe and I don't give a hoot whether someone takes them and puts them in any cookbook or website and makes money off them. More power to them. And, to set the record straight, I was never claiming that all the recipes I submitted as MINE, nor did I suppose the all the other recipes submitted are "original" recipes.

If you do use copyrighted material from a cookbook (exact ingredients and wording), you must include the original title, author, and copyright information.

drawlins27 · 08-16-2007, 08:59 AM

The ingredient list is never a problem, since it cannot be copyrighted. The instructions can only be copyrighted if they are extensive. For example, if the directions for a recipe say to mix this and this and then combine with that and then bake in oven, they cannot legally be copyrighted.

If the directions for a recipe are copyrighted, then just citing them without permission of the author is still a violation. I recommend that we just ask that whoever submitted a recipe that is in question, rewrite the instructions using their own words.

Whether or not the instructions to a recipe are copyrightable, it would still be nice to mention where you originally got the recipe.

Jenn218 · 08-16-2007, 12:59 PM

I haven't logged back onto the site after adding my recipes, so could someone tell me if more recipes are needed???

Also, if I add more is there a way that I can see which ones I already added?? I didn't keep track of which ones I added.....

iloveemmy · 08-17-2007, 04:21 PM

yes, when you log back in to the recipe site, choose to look at the recipes "by contributers" and you should find you name...thanks for adding more!

drawlins27 · 08-17-2007, 04:42 PM

We need more Dog recipes too. We don't even have enough for a complete section in the cookbook.

yougetthesmiles · 08-18-2007, 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drawlins27

We need more Dog recipes too. We don't even have enough for a complete section in the cookbook.

BUMPING

08-13-2007, 02:36 AM	#106
iloveemmy And the winner is... Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mississippi Posts: 1,330	Sorry ladies... I was going by the information I saw on several on the recipes. All of the ones I looked at had the following statement somewhere on them: "This recipe is copyright protected and may not be reproduced without ____'s (Food Network, Emeril, Southern Living, etc.) consent." I will back out of the argument now with one last statement, "If I made up the recipe OR had won prizes for the recipe OR had it published in a national cookbook OR had my own TV show where I demonstrated it on national TV, I don't think I would want someone else claiming it as their own." Once again, sorry and thanks for setting me straight! __________________ I won an Emmy and an Oscar!

08-13-2007, 05:44 AM	#108
Safire Addicted to Tetley Donating Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 964	If you ask me, that would be some amazing feat to come up with 400 absolutely original recipes that had never been published anywhere before. Everyone gets their recipes from somewhere, modifies it a little bit, and calls it their own. I get most of mine from www.allrecipes.com, and just change an ingredient or measurement here and there, add a little something else, and ta-da! It's mine. __________________ Safire Tetley See me on Dogster: http://www.dogster.com/?452576

08-13-2007, 06:01 AM	#109
nvnvgirl Lovin' to the MAX!! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Yorkieville Posts: 2,774	Where did it specify that the recipes were to be our own original recipes? I thought it was supposed to be our favorite recipes. And as the poster previously stated, all recipes come from SOMEWHERE...there's nothing truly original out there. All you have to do is change ONE ingredient to make it "original" anyway. The rule is, that a collection of recipes can be copyrighted; an individual recipe cannot. I have recipes that have come from everywhere, and a lot that I got from other people; whether they are their own "original" recipes or not, I have no idea. Some of the recipes I submitted are my mom's or my "original" recipe and I don't give a hoot whether someone takes them and puts them in any cookbook or website and makes money off them. More power to them. And, to set the record straight, I was never claiming that all the recipes I submitted as MINE, nor did I suppose the all the other recipes submitted are "original" recipes. __________________ Seana and Max and Madison too! Come visit me at: celebritydogwatcher.com Last edited by nvnvgirl; 08-13-2007 at 06:05 AM.

08-13-2007, 06:37 AM	#110
Judy in Waco Gizzy & Kandi spoil me Donating Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Waco, Texas Posts: 8,477	I think we owe Vallery a debt of gratitude! She has volunteered to do editing on the cookbook and to promote it tirelessly. I want to clarify here that I was trying to support her and not attack her in any way. The issue of copyright law is VERY important and serious. I agree with her on that. I just think the issue needs to be researched a little more before recipes are removed. I am very proud of everyone's participation in the cookbook! Ya'll (as we say in Texas. )are doing a GREAT job! Thank you to YouGetTheSmiles, Vallery and all of the other editors for this wonderful project. __________________ The fullness of our heart is expressed in our eyes, in our touch, in what we write, in what we say, in the way we walk, the way we receive, the way we need. -Mother Teresa ( RIP Gizmo 3/9/07-8/18/12)

08-13-2007, 02:05 PM	#112
crystalsmom Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,946	The hospital guild has these cook-books every year and they are so nice and I appreciate all the work you are putting into this one. Do you think saying "Mary Jones is including a recipe she loves" or has used often or makes for her family. Rather than: Mary Jones recipe ???? might be better. __________________

08-13-2007, 05:19 AM	#107
DENISE517 No Longer a Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: INDIANA Posts: 4,449	I havent added yet...I'll add tonight and I'll ad the cake we had for the birthday party for the dogs.

08-14-2007, 05:01 AM	#113
jp4m2 Love my Boys Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: w/ my boys Posts: 5,056	Are we allowed to use the actual name brand of a product in the recipe as in: Zip Lock, Lowery's, Crisco.... or should we say freezer bag, shortening? __________________ B.J.mom to : Jake J.J. Jack & Joey, momma misses you..... The joy found in the companionship of a pet is a blessing not given to everyone. The two most powerful words when we’re in struggle: me too..

08-16-2007, 08:59 AM	#116
drawlins27 Mommy's Lil' Miracle Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Mufreesboro, TN Posts: 1,028	The ingredient list is never a problem, since it cannot be copyrighted. The instructions can only be copyrighted if they are extensive. For example, if the directions for a recipe say to mix this and this and then combine with that and then bake in oven, they cannot legally be copyrighted. If the directions for a recipe are copyrighted, then just citing them without permission of the author is still a violation. I recommend that we just ask that whoever submitted a recipe that is in question, rewrite the instructions using their own words. Whether or not the instructions to a recipe are copyrightable, it would still be nice to mention where you originally got the recipe. __________________ I LOVE my little Furbutts!

08-16-2007, 12:59 PM	#117
Jenn218 Mojo, LilyGrace & Me Donating Member Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: cuddling with my babies<3 Posts: 17,329	I haven't logged back onto the site after adding my recipes, so could someone tell me if more recipes are needed??? Also, if I add more is there a way that I can see which ones I already added?? I didn't keep track of which ones I added..... __________________ Hi I'm Jenn Mom to..... Mojo,LilyGrace & DD Kate RIP Mojo FOREVER in our hearts!

08-17-2007, 04:21 PM	#118
iloveemmy And the winner is... Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mississippi Posts: 1,330	yes, when you log back in to the recipe site, choose to look at the recipes "by contributers" and you should find you name...thanks for adding more! __________________ I won an Emmy and an Oscar!

08-17-2007, 04:42 PM	#119
drawlins27 Mommy's Lil' Miracle Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Mufreesboro, TN Posts: 1,028	We need more Dog recipes too. We don't even have enough for a complete section in the cookbook. __________________ I LOVE my little Furbutts!