Grey's anatomy fued.

[SweetCuteness]

Originally Posted by vainchick5

I personally won't sign because I think it's horrible to be responsible for someone losing their job. We only know what the media says, and we don't know the whole story. I think it's up to his employers as to how they want to deal with the kind of discrimination he exhibits towards his colleague. Plenty of people have shown intolerance towards certain races, religions, and lifestyles, but you know what, we are in America and it's freedom of speech. I'm not defending him because I personally don't really llike him, but just being the devils advocate.

I agree 100% and I think the petition is a little extreme. I also won't sign it. Although I don't think it's right that he said what he said - worse things happen every second of every day and I don't think it's something that someone should lose their job over. America is so caught up in celebrities, it's ridiculous - the media focuses on the bad and rarely shows you the good side of the story, so take what you see with a grain of salt.

[ehunney]

Originally Posted by vainchick5

I personally won't sign because I think it's horrible to be responsible for someone losing their job. We only know what the media says, and we don't know the whole story. I think it's up to his employers as to how they want to deal with the kind of discrimination he exhibits towards his colleague. Plenty of people have shown intolerance towards certain races, religions, and lifestyles, but you know what, we are in America and it's freedom of speech. I'm not defending him because I personally don't really llike him, but just being the devils advocate.

Ditto! Exactly what I was thinking.

[itsrox]

I, personally, love IW. I don't love what he said. Being a black woman, I can understand how offensive these types of terms are to a group of people. I also hated the fact that Michael Richards repeatedly said the "N" word without ever realizing he shouldn't. However, I won't stop watching Seinfeld, nor will I stop watching Grey's Anatomy. Same way we all had to get over Richards' mistake, we'll have to get over Washington's.

[BubblPopElectrc]

Originally Posted by SweetCuteness

I agree 100% and I think the petition is a little extreme. I also won't sign it. Although I don't think it's right that he said what he said - worse things happen every second of every day and I don't think it's something that someone should lose their job over. America is so caught up in celebrities, it's ridiculous - the media focuses on the bad and rarely shows you the good side of the story, so take what you see with a grain of salt.

What's the good side of the story? I must have missed it.

[itsrox]

Originally Posted by BubblPopElectrc

What's the good side of the story? I must have missed it.

I think she meant the good side of things as far as the media is concerned. Not all the bad things that celebs do or say.

[BubblPopElectrc]

Originally Posted by itsrox

I think she meant the good side of things as far as the media is concerned. Not all the bad things that celebs do or say.

Ohh, OK.

[Gingergirlsmom]

JMO, but this seems ridiculous to me. He does not work in the Public Sector, television is private industry. Regardless of my personal view of what he did, it's not up to me or the general public to determine whether or not he is fired.

First, we weren't there and we are not the people directly affected.

Second, as I stated before, this is a private industry.

Third, where does this kind of thing end. Let's say you're a clerk in a retail shop and say something that a customer takes offense to. Should they then go online and petition for you to be fired??? Where does something like this end.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and if you believe you should sign this, go for it, personally, I have an issue with the principle at work here.

Not meaning to offend, just stating my thoughts.

[SweetCuteness]

Originally Posted by itsrox

I think she meant the good side of things as far as the media is concerned. Not all the bad things that celebs do or say.

Yes, that's what I meant. If there was a good side, we certainly wouldn't know about it now with all the attention the bad side is getting.

[SweetCuteness]

Originally Posted by Gingergirlsmom

JMO, but this seems ridiculous to me. He does not work in the Public Sector, television is private industry. Regardless of my personal view of what he did, it's not up to me or the general public to determine whether or not he is fired.

First, we weren't there and we are not the people directly affected.

Second, as I stated before, this is a private industry.

Third, where does this kind of thing end. Let's say you're a clerk in a retail shop and say something that a customer takes offense to. Should they then go online and petition for you to be fired??? Where does something like this end.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and if you believe you should sign this, go for it, personally, I have an issue with the principle at work here.

Not meaning to offend, just stating my thoughts.

Ditto! But like you said, everyone has their own opinions and that's perfectly fine - but I do think a petition is a little ridiculous.

[Peters]

anyways, if a clerk working in a public place and said something like that to another employee or customer there would definately be a problem ! everyday people get fired every day over things like this and even sued or worse i don't celebs should be treated any different than anyone else...even though they are! i don't think the cast of grey's should have to endure working with someone who shows that kind of behaviour no excuse for it at all!
the show will suffer and people will continue to rant about it until something is done a ohh i'm sorry just doesn't seem to get it for me espically when you start it all back up then totally deny the whole thing.

but as things would have it we can all just agree to disagree i guess.

[RLC12345678]

Originally Posted by vainchick5

I personally won't sign because I think it's horrible to be responsible for someone losing their job. We only know what the media says, and we don't know the whole story. I think it's up to his employers as to how they want to deal with the kind of discrimination he exhibits towards his colleague. Plenty of people have shown intolerance towards certain races, religions, and lifestyles, but you know what, we are in America and it's freedom of speech. I'm not defending him because I personally don't really llike him, but just being the devils advocate.

I agree 110%. We've all said things that we don't mean. We don't know the whole story. It is not our place to decide who loses or keeps their job over this. We should just all get over it.

[Gingergirlsmom]

Originally Posted by Peters

anyways, if a clerk working in a public place and said something like that to another employee or customer there would definately be a problem ! everyday people get fired every day over things like this and even sued or worse i don't celebs should be treated any different than anyone else...even though they are! i don't think the cast of grey's should have to endure working with someone who shows that kind of behaviour no excuse for it at all!
the show will suffer and people will continue to rant about it until something is done a ohh i'm sorry just doesn't seem to get it for me espically when you start it all back up then totally deny the whole thing.

but as things would have it we can all just agree to disagree i guess.

IMO the customer has a right to complain to the manager and the manager has a right to choose corrective measures, including firing the employee. But the general public, who was not directly impacted, should not become part of the dispute.

[dcelmo]

Originally Posted by daisy mae06

I'm just totally bumed cuz I missed the show last night

he said a bad thing why fire him over it. let him say he is sorry. I bet everyone blew it way out of context anyway.

You can go to ABC.com and watch it on-line anytime after it airs. I have done this a couple of times after missing my favorite shows.

[BubblPopElectrc]

He said it. He denied it. He forced TR out of the closet. TR said he said it. He said it again. What does it have to do with "not knowing the whole story"?

Peters,
I noticed I didn't post the link to the other petition I was talking about.

http://www.petitiononline.com/at343sh7/petition.html

[SweetCuteness]

Originally Posted by BubblPopElectrc

He said it. He denied it. He forced TR out of the closet. TR said he said it. He said it again. What does it have to do with "not knowing the whole story"?

Peters,
I noticed I didn't post the link to the other petition I was talking about.

http://www.petitiononline.com/at343sh7/petition.html

The point is, it's not our business to be so obsessed with it. He could have sincerely apologized and the media wouldn't have told us. I didn't directly affect any of us, so why do we need to be so involved in it??

People on this forum have described WAY worse problems - like knowing someone who is starving their yorkie puppy to keep them small. Why don't you go sign a petition to remove that dog from that home? At least that's affecting the outcome of life or death of a living, breathing creature and I don't see anyone doing that.

It's a nation of free speech - yes it was hurtful to the person it was directed at, but this is blown WAY out of proportion.

My point is, don't get your panties in a wad over something that none of us can change. The petition may make you feel better, but it's not going to force someone to make a decision they weren't already decided on. If you want to expend your energy on this, that's your prerogotive. I just feel that there are more important things that our energy could be put to good use on, ya know?

As far as the ratings of the show - it will probably increase them and draw more people to watch it.

I'm sorry if I offended anyone, that was certainly not my intention. I am just stating my honest opinion.