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ChestersMom · 10-24-2006, 09:41 AM

Well, well, should I be shaking in my boots?

DENISE517 · 10-24-2006, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by red98vett

Jeff Dane ...Bite me.

you have a TERRIBLE REPUTATION ON THE NET - just search your own name - it's easy enough - just having your website on every search engine does NOT make you a good broker/breeder or whatever you are.

I doubt you can sue the whole internet when I see site after site about you - There sure is alot of people that don't even BELONG TO YORKIETALK that have posted terrible things about you on the net - wonder why ?

IF someone buys a dog from YOU and that dog is sick - they have every right to talk about it - just as we have every right to POST OUR OPINIONS. YT is a place to talk about these kinds of things & you can't stop people from having opinions.

I've been hearing nothing but bad things about you for over THREE YEARS - there IS a reason for that - it's YOU. .and if anything you have a WORSE Reputation now if that's possible ....

you should be ashamed of yourself & that DOG FACTORY of yours. The people that I've talked to who have MET you had nothing good to say - all but for ONE person. That's a pretty bad track record don't you think ???

You don't love dogs or you would never breed or buy those poor super tiny (sick) looking little puppies - the people who's puppies came to them sick are the ones you need to be talking to - maybe help with some vet bills or even better - STICK with healthy standard puppies and stop trying to get rich off them.

You Go Girl!!!!!!!!

Rae Rae · 10-24-2006, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red98vett

Jeff Dane ...Bite me.

you have a TERRIBLE REPUTATION ON THE NET - just search your own name - it's easy enough - just having your website on every search engine does NOT make you a good broker/breeder or whatever you are.

I doubt you can sue the whole internet when I see site after site about you - There sure is alot of people that don't even BELONG TO YORKIETALK that have posted terrible things about you on the net - wonder why ?

IF someone buys a dog from YOU and that dog is sick - they have every right to talk about it - just as we have every right to POST OUR OPINIONS. YT is a place to talk about these kinds of things & you can't stop people from having opinions.

I've been hearing nothing but bad things about you for over THREE YEARS - there IS a reason for that - it's YOU. .and if anything you have a WORSE Reputation now if that's possible ....

you should be ashamed of yourself & that DOG FACTORY of yours. The people that I've talked to who have MET you had nothing good to say - all but for ONE person. That's a pretty bad track record don't you think ???

You don't love dogs or you would never breed or buy those poor super tiny (sick) looking little puppies - the people who's puppies came to them sick are the ones you need to be talking to - maybe help with some vet bills or even better - STICK with healthy standard puppies and stop trying to get rich off them.

Sadie's Mom · 10-24-2006, 09:46 AM

How is he getting your email addresses? I thought they were hidden by the site unless we gave them out?

candybaby · 10-24-2006, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Sadie's Mom

How is he getting your email addresses? I thought they were hidden by the site unless we gave them out?

Maybe thats why he only emailed a few, he most likely got it from my signature it has my web-site attatched and my e-mail address is on my site..

Sadie's Mom · 10-24-2006, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by candybaby

Maybe thats why he only emailed a few, he most likely got it from my signature it has my web-site attatched and my e-mail address is on my site..

Oh, ok...just wondered.

red98vett · 10-24-2006, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Sadie's Mom

How is he getting your email addresses? I thought they were hidden by the site unless we gave them out?

Someone is passing along personal information to him - and I can only think of one person that would do that - (not a YT member) most people don't want to get involved but he is getting them from someone.

I've seen far worse about him on the internet than I've ever seen posted here.

Peters · 10-24-2006, 10:35 AM

i want to see the pics. i think someone should go over there personally and check things out take some real pics! to bad i have to be so far away and i believe he is just bluffing! you think someone with so many great dogs wouldn't waste so much time bothering poeple online and would be out tending to those high dollar dogs huh?!

ehunney · 10-24-2006, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red98vett

Jeff Dane ...Bite me.

you have a TERRIBLE REPUTATION ON THE NET - just search your own name - it's easy enough - just having your website on every search engine does NOT make you a good broker/breeder or whatever you are.

I doubt you can sue the whole internet when I see site after site about you - There sure is alot of people that don't even BELONG TO YORKIETALK that have posted terrible things about you on the net - wonder why ?

IF someone buys a dog from YOU and that dog is sick - they have every right to talk about it - just as we have every right to POST OUR OPINIONS. YT is a place to talk about these kinds of things & you can't stop people from having opinions.

I've been hearing nothing but bad things about you for over THREE YEARS - there IS a reason for that - it's YOU. .and if anything you have a WORSE Reputation now if that's possible ....

you should be ashamed of yourself & that DOG FACTORY of yours. The people that I've talked to who have MET you had nothing good to say - all but for ONE person. That's a pretty bad track record don't you think ???

You don't love dogs or you would never breed or buy those poor super tiny (sick) looking little puppies - the people who's puppies came to them sick are the ones you need to be talking to - maybe help with some vet bills or even better - STICK with healthy standard puppies and stop trying to get rich off them.

Yeah what she said

ARCHIE · 10-24-2006, 10:54 AM

I only know about him from what I read here and I trust the YT members opinion all the way.

If they say he is a bad breeder then I feel certain he is.
It makes me sick to my stomach to think of the pups he is breeding and the misery they live in on a daily basis. Also the unsuspecting buyer who buys from him and gets a sick pup with all kinds of problems. I hope he gets shut down, his teeth rot out and he is once again toothless.

vainchick5 · 10-24-2006, 10:58 AM

Check it all out, it's not just YT folks..
http://www.faqs.org/qa/qa-20898.html

Question by Twizzler
Submitted on 5/23/2004
Related FAQ: rec.pets.dogs: Yorkshire Terriers Breed-FAQ
Rating: Rate this question: N/A Worst Weak OK Good Great
Where can i get a teacup yorkie for $500 or less

Answer by sasha
Submitted on 5/24/2004
Rating: Rate this answer: N/A Worst Weak OK Good Great
I wouldn't want one that was 500... that's way below the going rate

Answer by Ben
Submitted on 6/10/2004
Rating: Rate this answer: N/A Worst Weak OK Good Great
Considering buying a pup from

Yorkiepup.com (Jeff Dane)?

Consider the facts below.

1 - My first-hand experience.

Jeff is a puppy mill breeder who

presents himself online as a

compassionate and responsible

person, but once he has your

money, you're pretty much an

annoyance to him.
I bought a pup from him. It

died in 2 weeks from a

vet-confirmed birth defect. Jeff

was rude, uncaring, and blew up

when we asked for compensation for

the 700.00 in vet bills. Sound

like a compassionate person to

you?

2 - Do a google search on him.

See the SPAM that he posts

advertising his business. Also

take note that "other people"

often post on his behalf, but

textually sound a lot like Jeff

himself. Also note that Jeff

sells farm equipment. If somebody

starts speaking out against him on

a bulletin board, suddenly the

thread is spammed with a bunch of

farm-equipment information, and

the thread is locked. Also look

at the source code of his website,

might be of interest. His writing

presents him as more of a psycho

than a compassionate breeder.

3 - Jeff was previously in the

monster-truck biz, until he quit

because it wasn't lucrative enough

(all info taken from online

research, i.e. GOOGLE). So he got

into a more lucrative business -

puppy mills. In his words, "MONEY

MOTIVATES!!"

4 - After one day of posting these

messages, I have been contacted by

several other people who have had

similar experiences in buying his

puppies.

BE SMART. DON'T GIVE YOUR MONEY

TO A CON-MAN.

feel free to email me =)

Answer by lbear
Submitted on 6/19/2004
Rating: Rate this answer: N/A Worst Weak OK Good Great
We bought a dog a year ago from Jeff. My daughters yorkie pup died last year from another breeder. We thought we found a good breeder in Jeff. Paid a $1000 for Bart (notice all his pups have a rotation of names) He knew how important it was NOT to get a sick puppy. He did seem to rush us at his house. Not two hours after leaving on the trip home we heard a strange cough. We called him immediately. "He didn't have a cough at in my care." Told me to give him some baby cough med. Monday took him to the vet sure enough he had kennel cough. Long story short. This took 3 months to clear up and $1500 in vet bills. He almost died. Between the vet and I we had to give him nebulizer treatments w/meds 3 times a day. Anytime I called Jeff he was rude, said the vets were in it for money. My vet felt sorry for us and stopped charging. He's a great puppy now. But when we want to add another yorkie - we won't go back to Jeff.

linz06 · 10-24-2006, 10:59 AM

Soooo how many of these customer letters on his page do you think are real?

"Anyone who hesitates buying a dog from you is completely nuts. These dogs are the most fun loving dogs I have ever had. And not to mention smart."

"I want to urge everyone to listen to you and give their little babies Nutra-Stat and keep them on the same dog food you've been feeding them! (No matter what the vet says!)"

yeah..

Alliec1 · 10-24-2006, 10:59 AM

I'm surprised action has not been taken to ban him from viewing this website?

I know that admins can ban IP addresses..so all we would need is his. It wouldn't be hard to do..just have the admin run all the IPs of the site that might be suspicious through a whois lookup, get one that is based in his town (obviously him) and then voila, block.

vainchick5 · 10-24-2006, 11:02 AM

CHECK THIS OUT, WHAT A PSYCHO...

http://www.petznjam.com/msgboard/messages/1358.html

RLC12345678 · 10-24-2006, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vainchick5

CHECK THIS OUT, WHAT A PSYCHO...

http://www.petznjam.com/msgboard/messages/1358.html

What a psychopath!

10-24-2006, 09:46 AM	#19
Sadie's Mom Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Irving, TX Posts: 3,180	How is he getting your email addresses? I thought they were hidden by the site unless we gave them out? __________________ Christie and Sadie

10-24-2006, 10:35 AM	#23
Peters YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,225	i want to see the pics. i think someone should go over there personally and check things out take some real pics! to bad i have to be so far away and i believe he is just bluffing! you think someone with so many great dogs wouldn't waste so much time bothering poeple online and would be out tending to those high dollar dogs huh?! __________________ A pet's love is true right from the start, through good times and bad, like sharing one heart.

10-24-2006, 10:58 AM	#26
vainchick5 YT 6000 Club Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: CA Posts: 6,588	Check it all out, it's not just YT folks.. http://www.faqs.org/qa/qa-20898.html Question by Twizzler Submitted on 5/23/2004 Related FAQ: rec.pets.dogs: Yorkshire Terriers Breed-FAQ Rating: Rate this question: N/A Worst Weak OK Good Great Where can i get a teacup yorkie for $500 or less Answer by sasha Submitted on 5/24/2004 Rating: Rate this answer: N/A Worst Weak OK Good Great I wouldn't want one that was 500... that's way below the going rate Answer by Ben Submitted on 6/10/2004 Rating: Rate this answer: N/A Worst Weak OK Good Great Considering buying a pup from Yorkiepup.com (Jeff Dane)? Consider the facts below. 1 - My first-hand experience. Jeff is a puppy mill breeder who presents himself online as a compassionate and responsible person, but once he has your money, you're pretty much an annoyance to him. I bought a pup from him. It died in 2 weeks from a vet-confirmed birth defect. Jeff was rude, uncaring, and blew up when we asked for compensation for the 700.00 in vet bills. Sound like a compassionate person to you? 2 - Do a google search on him. See the SPAM that he posts advertising his business. Also take note that "other people" often post on his behalf, but textually sound a lot like Jeff himself. Also note that Jeff sells farm equipment. If somebody starts speaking out against him on a bulletin board, suddenly the thread is spammed with a bunch of farm-equipment information, and the thread is locked. Also look at the source code of his website, might be of interest. His writing presents him as more of a psycho than a compassionate breeder. 3 - Jeff was previously in the monster-truck biz, until he quit because it wasn't lucrative enough (all info taken from online research, i.e. GOOGLE). So he got into a more lucrative business - puppy mills. In his words, "MONEY MOTIVATES!!" 4 - After one day of posting these messages, I have been contacted by several other people who have had similar experiences in buying his puppies. BE SMART. DON'T GIVE YOUR MONEY TO A CON-MAN. feel free to email me =) Answer by lbear Submitted on 6/19/2004 Rating: Rate this answer: N/A Worst Weak OK Good Great We bought a dog a year ago from Jeff. My daughters yorkie pup died last year from another breeder. We thought we found a good breeder in Jeff. Paid a $1000 for Bart (notice all his pups have a rotation of names) He knew how important it was NOT to get a sick puppy. He did seem to rush us at his house. Not two hours after leaving on the trip home we heard a strange cough. We called him immediately. "He didn't have a cough at in my care." Told me to give him some baby cough med. Monday took him to the vet sure enough he had kennel cough. Long story short. This took 3 months to clear up and $1500 in vet bills. He almost died. Between the vet and I we had to give him nebulizer treatments w/meds 3 times a day. Anytime I called Jeff he was rude, said the vets were in it for money. My vet felt sorry for us and stopped charging. He's a great puppy now. But when we want to add another yorkie - we won't go back to Jeff. __________________ Mommy to Coco and Rocco

10-24-2006, 10:59 AM	#27
linz06 Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 3,154	Soooo how many of these customer letters on his page do you think are real? "Anyone who hesitates buying a dog from you is completely nuts. These dogs are the most fun loving dogs I have ever had. And not to mention smart." "I want to urge everyone to listen to you and give their little babies Nutra-Stat and keep them on the same dog food you've been feeding them! (No matter what the vet says!)" yeah.. __________________ Lindsey and Layla, Lucy, and Kash

10-24-2006, 11:02 AM	#29
vainchick5 YT 6000 Club Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: CA Posts: 6,588	CHECK THIS OUT, WHAT A PSYCHO... http://www.petznjam.com/msgboard/messages/1358.html __________________ Mommy to Coco and Rocco

10-24-2006, 09:41 AM	#16
ChestersMom YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bacliff, TX Posts: 947	Well, well, should I be shaking in my boots?

10-24-2006, 10:54 AM	#25
ARCHIE No Longer A Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NEW YORK Posts: 16,218	I only know about him from what I read here and I trust the YT members opinion all the way. If they say he is a bad breeder then I feel certain he is. It makes me sick to my stomach to think of the pups he is breeding and the misery they live in on a daily basis. Also the unsuspecting buyer who buys from him and gets a sick pup with all kinds of problems. I hope he gets shut down, his teeth rot out and he is once again toothless.

10-24-2006, 10:59 AM	#28
Alliec1 Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 64	I'm surprised action has not been taken to ban him from viewing this website? I know that admins can ban IP addresses..so all we would need is his. It wouldn't be hard to do..just have the admin run all the IPs of the site that might be suspicious through a whois lookup, get one that is based in his town (obviously him) and then voila, block.