Any Game of Thrones fans here...?????

[lsd989]

Yes I know that. So he still is in the running if he can get better. With this series there is always a twist to everything. .

[MarkFromSea]

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

That's right!! Forgot about that scene. The witch said "Gold will be their crowns, and gold their shrouds..." - so then, "gold" aka greed was their shroud...greed for power. And Cersei is nothing if not greedy to the death for more power.



Dany ordered Jorah away to go get well and heal bc she said she needs him to be healthy, and be at her side when the time comes.

Btw, does anyone know what other machinations were in the works for Cersei's trial - had the Wildfire not happened...? In other words, in the books - does it go into what anyone *had* been planning for that trial (ie, Marjorie or Tommen or the High Sparrow etc)....?

I was under the impression that the book for this portion hasn't come out yet... maybe they have now, I just hadn't heard about it... The writer is way behind was/is my understanding. Certainly I could and have been wrong before about this series.... There is a lot going on in GOT.

[MarkFromSea]

IDK, considering everything Loras Tyrrell had to give up and swear to do, and the mutilation of his forehead.... I can easily IMAGINE that the high sparrow would have had Cersei confess to having sex with her brother even possibly accusing her of the truth, that all of her children were the spawn of her brother and not the King's. If that had happened, Cersei's son Tommen would have been ousted from the throne immediately and I suspect a simple forehead mutilation would not have been enough to satiate the high sparrow's thirst for "righteousness", death for Cersei is the only possible penance for such crimes, I'm sure the high sparrow would have tossed in the murder of the king as well. Sorta recap the crimes of Loras Tyrrell's, compare it to the imaginable crimes/accusations for Cersei.... and the resulting punishment. IMO Cersei did what she had to in order to survive.. let alone prosper as she has done, first at the direction of her father and then on her own accord.

"On the day of Cersei and Loras's trial, Margaery stands with her father in the Great Sept of Baelor, and watches from the sidelines as Loras renounces his allegiance to House Tyrell and confesses to his accusations. She comforts her father and restrains him from intervening when the Faith militant begin carving the seven-pointed star into Loras's forehead. When Cersei does not show up for her own trial, the High Sparrow sends Lancel Lannister to bring her to the sept by force, and after Lancel himself does not return after a prolonged period of time, Margaery suggests to the High Sparrow that Cersei's absence and that of her son indicates that she is plotting to harm them, urging him to evacuate everyone before it is too late. Clearly underestimating Cersei, the High Sparrow dismisses this notion and has his Sparrows keep the Tyrell siblings from leaving the sept, along with everyone else present. [27]

Margaery Death
Margaery gives one last look to the High Sparrow, knowing her fate is sealed by the hands of Cersei.
Powerless to do anything, Margaery clutches her brother as the sept erupts in an explosion of green wildfire, killing everyone inside, including Margaery, Loras, and their father. As a result of Margaery's death, Tommen commits suicide after he sees the burning sept from his chambers in the Red Keep"

[Maximo]

Originally Posted by MarkFromSea

I was under the impression that the book for this portion hasn't come out yet... maybe they have now, I just hadn't heard about it... The writer is way behind was/is my understanding. Certainly I could and have been wrong before about this series.... There is a lot going on in GOT.

I had the same understanding, that the last season is now ahead of the books. Fans are eager to see if the future books will be radically different than the show.

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[Maximo]

I agree that the High Sparrow planned to have Cersei confess in her trial that her children were Jamie's. Cersei had already been forced to confess privately. That would have resulted in Tommen being removed from the throne, but I don't think the High Sparrow would have executed Tommen.

I'm convinced Marjorie was hoping Cersei was going to sentenced to death, but Marjorie wasn't thinking that Tommen would be removed from the throne.

If Tommen had been stripped of the crown, and Cersei executed or sidelined in some way, who would have been next in line?

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by Maximo

I agree that the High Sparrow planned to have Cersei confess in her trial that her children were Jamie's. Cersei had already been forced to confess privately. That would have resulted in Tommen being removed from the throne, but I don't think the High Sparrow would have executed Tommen.

I'm convinced Marjorie was hoping Cersei was going to sentenced to death, but Marjorie wasn't thinking that Tommen would be removed from the throne.

If Tommen had been stripped of the crown, and Cersei executed or sidelined in some way, who would have been next in line?

Oh whoa, didn't even consider Tommen being removed!

Technically, next in line would've been Stannis and Renly, right? But they're gone. So then, technically, it would be Robert's illegitimate son, right (the iron smith...the one Ned went to visit that one time. Is the iron smith even still alive, I can't remember lol...?!!?)..? And after that, I'm not even sure who would be next!

[Maximo]

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

Oh whoa, didn't even consider Tommen being removed!

Technically, next in line would've been Stannis and Renly, right? But they're gone. So then, technically, it would be Robert's illegitimate son, right (the iron smith...the one Ned went to visit that one time. Is the iron smith even still alive, I can't remember lol...?!!?)..? And after that, I'm not even sure who would be next!

Gendry, the iron smith, yes! I only know his name because I am re-watching the show from the beginning. Gendry was last seen rowing a boat to Kings Landing in season 3. He might still be out there rowing, lol!

The Red Witch leeched some blood from Gendry and made plans to burn him at the stake as a sacrifice to the fire god to help Stannis. Davos Seaworth, the Onion Knight, saved Gendry by putting him in the row boat.

It will be interesting to see if he ever reappears.

[MarkFromSea]

Originally Posted by Maximo

I agree that the High Sparrow planned to have Cersei confess in her trial that her children were Jamie's. Cersei had already been forced to confess privately. That would have resulted in Tommen being removed from the throne, but I don't think the High Sparrow would have executed Tommen.

I'm convinced Marjorie was hoping Cersei was going to sentenced to death, but Marjorie wasn't thinking that Tommen would be removed from the throne.

If Tommen had been stripped of the crown, and Cersei executed or sidelined in some way, who would have been next in line?

I agree, Tommen was still an innocent child, he wouldn't have been executed just his crown removed.

I like that thought of Marjorie and agree it's likely.... Marjorie seemed to be up to something, but, now we will likely never know what that was.

IDK who would have been next in line. Getting to be fewer houses to fight over it in event of a civil war.

[MarkFromSea]

This may be a little confusing but worth a gander, the major armies remaining: Great House - Game of Thrones Wiki - Wikia

[lsd989]

I don't think he finished the book yet Mark . I haven't heard about it either.

[Maximo]

Re-watching the series and picking up things I missed the first time or had forgotten:

Littlefinger was involved with Olenna Tyrell in the murder of Joffrey.

Littlefinger gave Lysa the poison to kill her husband, Jon Arryn, the Hand of the King whom Ned Stark ended up replacing, and advised Lysa to blame the Lannisters . . . setting in motion the whole big mess in the Seven Kingdoms.

It will be interesting to see where Littlefinger ends up in the end.

[MarkFromSea]

Just heard about a delay for the filming for next season, they want darker and gloomier days to film since "Winter" is nearer at hand... possibly pushing back next season's opening until after April.

If I recall correctly, Cercei became aware that Ned discovered the bastard child, or children, of King Baratheon and that's why she framed him somehow and had him killed. I don't recall Littlefinger being involved with killing King Baratheon though. I think that was all Cercei. I can't recall clearly what involvement Littlefinger had in framing or capturing Ned.

[Captainzing]

Not sure if anyone posted this yet.

Either the radio or something on net, next season is it

[Maximo]

Originally Posted by MarkFromSea

Just heard about a delay for the filming for next season, they want darker and gloomier days to film since "Winter" is nearer at hand... possibly pushing back next season's opening until after April.

If I recall correctly, Cercei became aware that Ned discovered the bastard child, or children, of King Baratheon and that's why she framed him somehow and had him killed. I don't recall Littlefinger being involved with killing King Baratheon though. I think that was all Cercei. I can't recall clearly what involvement Littlefinger had in framing or capturing Ned.

I agree that Cercei masterminded her husband Robert Baratheon's death, having her cousin ply him with extra wine during the boar hunt. Maybe the wine was spiked too to make him extra slow and vulnerable. I think Robert's armor was also suddenly too small, so I think he went without.

On his death bed, Robert named Ned Lord Regent until Joffrey came of age. Cersei wasn't going to have that, in addition to Ned knowing Joffrey was a bastard. Cersei tore up Robert's will in front of Ned and the others.

Littlefinger had promised Ned that he would make sure the City Watch supported him. Littlefinger lied and at the big showdown in the throne room between the Lannisters and Ned, it is Littlefinger who holds a dagger to Ned's throat.

[Maximo]

Originally Posted by Captainzing

Not sure if anyone posted this yet.

Either the radio or something on net, next season is it

What? Nooo! I thought last word is that there will 2 seasons, albeit shorter ones.

As Mark indicated above, it is probably going to be a long wait.