Breaking Bad - WHO is Watching?!

[crystalsmom]

Originally Posted by DBlain

thanks for all the feedback, not sure if I would like the show but I am curious so I want to give it a try. I guess I am a lightweight, my idea of a good cop show is blue bloods and Castle I will look into netflicks, hopefully they still mail out DVD's, we are a bit challenged when it comes to things like hooking up our computer into our TV. I do miss blockbuster it made things easy for us, but thankfully with have the DVR from Comcast.

Never in a million years, did I ever think I would watch a show with such subject matter but the characters are so real and writing so brilliant, you are seating at the end of your seat through and at the end of every episode.

I did quit at one point I mentioned before, when Gus was in a scene that I thought was too much but a day later, I felt I had gone so far into it and wanted to see how it all played out, you get so attached to the characters. I'm glad I went on to the end.

Brilliant in every way!!

[Britster]

Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly

People have gone through cancer and left families penniless and didn't stoop to turning into a ghoul that sucks everyone into their vortex of misery and evil as some sort of panacea or revenge for some hard knocks from life for their personal misery and the fact they got taken for a ride by some "good friends". Truth is, Walt's family would have fared a lot better and with less horror, shock and agony if he'd just dealt with his life blows the way most folks do and that's bravely head-on with a little grace, doing all the good they can on the way out and leaving those that knew and loved them full of great memories and wiser for the things they've taught them about what really matters in life when the going gets tough. The luckiest, sharpest people in the world know that in the scheme of things, life isn't about getting even or repaying an eye for an eye because you've had some very bad breaks or stacking up piles of blood money but working at your purpose in life with hope in your heart, caring about, supporting and serving each other, helping those that are downtrodden and in trouble, even when one's own life gets very hard and unfair, and leaving this world a better place because we were here for a while and looking forward to a far better place.

IT'S A TV SHOW... lol that would be super boring

Edit- just saw ur other post lol.

I don't disagree with your assessment at all to be fair. But it would still make a very boring tv show.

[Britster]

Originally Posted by capt_noonie

In all fairness, in real life I totally agree with you guys. But this is a TV show. If you didn't like the main character to some degree, how can you like the show? The way it's written is for you to like or at least care about the main character and root for him. I am totally rooting for Walt.

I am currently watching the ep where Mike quits and Jesse wants out also, and now Walt is trying to recruit Todd. I am guessing that Todd and his uncle are going to be the new villains?

Do any of you guys see any of the characters as not evil, bad, or corrupt in some way? Of course I"m not talking about Jr or the baby. Pretty much all the characters are "bad". Like Brit said (I think?) what would it take for you to break bad? I guess I sympathize with the characters, I've been there myself! Well not cooking meth, but you know what I mean.

I actually began to hate Walt at the beginning of the 5th season. For a while, I feel like I kept rationalizing his behavior and what he was doing. But even the creator of the show said he did not like him anymore in the end. I'll discuss more after you see the ending tho about more of my feelings!

But I NEVER felt like Walt was satanist. Yes he did bad things, often with good reason, often not, but I did not feel like he was pure satanist with any thing he ever did. And one of his last quotes in the last ep, I was so happy to finally hear him say.

Jesse would be who I think I cared about most. Ya know he was a young kid messed up in a bad world, he had grown up in a somewhat wealthy American family, 'good parents', as did Walt, they both had no real 'reason' to wind up like they did. They just... did. I think a lot of times ppl only think 'bad people' raised in 'bad families' and 'bad neighborhoods' do this, but no. He was kinda trapped in this world, and yes he could have left at any time, but Mr White really did manipulate him. Alot. Sometimes it was for his own sake, other times it wasn't. (spoiler from season 2----) Like I did not disagree with him letting Jane die. She was turning him into a heroin addict, and was basically going to take all of his money, and they both prob would've died from an overdose anyway. So in a way he did Jesse a favor.

As far as me... I have to be honest, I think if I were in Walt's position, and knew I was going to die fairly soon, and had lived a fairly boring life, and knew I deserved more, I can't say I wouldn't feel the same way, knowing I was going to die and leave behind nothing. As much as money will not necessarily make people happy (as we def see in this show), it does had a sense of easiness that you wouldn't otherwise have. And to know you're going to die and leave your family with nothing but debt, can't be a GOOD feeling. I could never see myself doing something as awful as cooking meth, mostly because I'm really not smart enough and would prob blow myself up but I would prob do things I wouldn't have otherwise.

[yorkietalkjilly]

Originally Posted by Britster

IT'S A TV SHOW... lol that would be super boring

Edit- just saw ur other post lol.

I don't disagree with your assessment at all to be fair. But it would still make a very boring tv show.

LOL. It was a silly assessment on your fun thread but I was sorry later after I posted it! One of those forehead-slapping moments like that's their show, they love it, they love the writing, characters, every moment of it - geez, Jeanie! Still, in answer to your comment, there were Little House on the Prairie, the Waltons, NYPD Blue, Blue Bloods and even today shows like Downtown Abbey where finely drawn characters faced terrible, life-alteringly, bad, often very unfair things, faced them bravely with courage but found a way to help others, too, didn't cop out, thumb their nose at society and go bad as a means of coping and still created/create some darn-fine story telling. Sometimes things don't have to be edgy to be thoroughly enjoyable and satisfying, leave you a little better off because you saw how some character managed themselves through something awful. Good life skills and lessons.

But I can see BB and living vicariously through its characters and all the shocking action as a means of coping in this frustrating world, too. haha No kidding. I'm really sorry, though, Brit. Your thread, your fav show and I am enjoying reading about you all enjoying it. Interesting insights right and left and some good takes on what people draw from their entertainment. Reading about BB is really enjoyable. Just like Mad Men, Lost and the Sopranos, shows I really didn't watch except here or there but great to read all about people's take-aways from them. Today's version of the Book-Of-The-Month Club meetings.

[Britster]

Another thing, I love that show can bring about discussions such as this! That's the point of it... a lot of ppl WILL hate certain characters. And Vince Gilligan (the creator/writer) said he went to do something no one else has done before... and that's make a main character go from totally 'good' to totally 'bad'. He wanted to take him from Mr Chips to Scarface. But we started with a very sympathetic man. Most really COULD understand Walt's reasons. And then over the course of the show, you either begin finding it very hard to side with him anymore, or you're still kind of rooting for the underdog.

But I guess the deeper question would be, did Walt always have this in him? Was he inherently bad? What about Jesse... maybe deep down he was inherently good all along? I love that over the course of the 5 seasons, they kind of switched places, and Jesse became the 'morale' of the show.

If everybody did everything right all the time, we wouldn't be human beings. Watching a show like this can make let you see the other side of things. A lot of people live in a world like this, even if we don't. So I like getting a glimpse into this part of our society. It's very intriguing to me.

And damnit, Priscilla, finish already I am DYING to talk about the ending with you!!! LOL....

[Britster]

Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly

LOL. It was a silly assessment on your fun thread but I was sorry later after I posted it! One of those forehead-slapping moments like that's their show, they love it, they love the writing, characters, every moment of it - geez, Jeanie! Still, in answer to your comment, there were Little House on the Prairie, the Waltons, NYPD Blue, Blue Bloods and even today shows like Downtown Abbey where finely drawn characters faced terrible, life-alteringly, bad, often very unfair things, faced them bravely with courage but found a way to help others, too, didn't cop out, thumb their nose at society and go bad as a means of coping and still created/create some darn-fine story telling. Sometimes things don't have to be edgy to be thoroughly enjoyable and satisfying, leave you a little better off because you saw how some character managed themselves through something awful. Good life skills and lessons.

But I can see BB and living vicariously through its characters and all the shocking action as a means of coping in this frustrating world, too. haha No kidding. I'm really sorry, though, Brit. Your thread, your fav show and I am enjoying reading about you all enjoying it. Interesting insights right and left and some good takes on what people draw from their entertainment. Reading about BB is really enjoyable. Just like Mad Men, Lost and the Sopranos, shows I really didn't watch except here or there but great to read all about people's take-aways from them. Today's version of the Book-Of-The-Month Club meetings.

You dont have to be sorry! I love the discussion. I realize not everyone is going to like it as hard it is for me to believe...

I get ya... every show has it's place. I mean I watch Boy Meets World and Full House every morning before work. Wanna talk about morally right shows... lol...

But I always love getting a bit darker too. And I love the shows that are such a thrill and keep me on the edge of my seat. It's entertainment to me. And I have always been kind of a 'deep' person so I love really getting into the psyche of humans. I've been at a fairly dark place in my life before, but I realize many others have been thru much worse, and I always kept that in the back of my head. But to me, it's more relate-able I guess, because my family has never been the center of a moral compass, but in the end we're all good and decent people, with good hearts. But most of my family tends to choose the 'wrong' thing, vs. the right... so I think that's why I've always been keen to watch darker, more character-driven shows, possibly. And I tend to be the opposite, out of my family, I'm more of the 'good' one LOL... so sometimes I guess I just like to go over to the 'bad' side and see things from their perspective maybe.

[crystalsmom]

I talked to so many people that did not realize what Walt did at the end.

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[Britster]

Originally Posted by crystalsmom

I talked to so many people that did not realize what Walt did at the end.

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I noticed right away.... I thought it was a really really GREAT way to end things. It's like he finally did right by the person who he had wronged the most really. Even though he totally went there with the intention of killing him, once he saw his condition and that he was being forced to cook, I think his humanity came back, and he let his anger slide for a bit.... and in some sick weird way, it's a wacky love story. Until they end, they did care about each other.

Some good articles I read after the finale:
How "Breaking Bad" Set The Bar For All Series Endings To Come

'Breaking Bad' finale: Revenge, redemption, release

Bryan Cranston and Aaron Paul discuss ending of 'Breaking Bad' finale | Inside TV | EW.com

http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/09/30/br...ince-gilligan/

Lol, this was funny:
23 Ways To Get Over Your Intense "Breaking Bad" Depression

A good explanation of Jesse and the ricin realization
Breaking Bad: How Jesse Figured It All Out -- Vulture

[capt_noonie]

Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly

Yikes! Sorry, BB Fans. Woke up this morning and was thinking about my post here last night and thought: what was I thinking???? Was having a bad day myself yesterday, so much had gone wrong and had a raging headache last night, was very hungry when I looked in on this thread and just posted away dissing your show. Shouldn't have done it! This is a thread for BB fans who are into and enjoy the BB show and I shouldn't have even posted here. Feel like an idiot this morning. Ya'll enjoy your show and your discussion. I love the enthusiasm of people for their particular show and love reading about the various the meanings they take from it. Sorry for my bummer post on your thread - won't happen again.

Don't worry about it! You made very valid points. Posts like yours don't bother me. But what does, is sometimes we have a "fan" thread and someone who's not a fan comes on and not only posts they hate what we love but that they are holier than thou and would never break the law for any reason and neither would their kids.

Originally Posted by DBlain

thanks for all the feedback, not sure if I would like the show but I am curious so I want to give it a try. I guess I am a lightweight, my idea of a good cop show is blue bloods and Castle I will look into netflicks, hopefully they still mail out DVD's, we are a bit challenged when it comes to things like hooking up our computer into our TV. I do miss blockbuster it made things easy for us, but thankfully with have the DVR from Comcast.

If you do end up watching, I agree with Brit, make sure you start at the first episode!

[capt_noonie]

Originally Posted by crystalsmom

I think Jessie has a heart and is such a good person and I could not stand what Walt did to him at times.

That said, the writers played with our emotions in such a way that they had all watching rooting for a man 99% of the time, we of course knew was doing the wrong thing. He did love Jesse though. 'He did it for his family' will be explained at the end and I won't ruin it for those that haven't seen it yet.

Yes! The writing is incredible! I root for Walt all the way!

[capt_noonie]

Originally Posted by Britster

Another thing, I love that show can bring about discussions such as this! That's the point of it... a lot of ppl WILL hate certain characters. And Vince Gilligan (the creator/writer) said he went to do something no one else has done before... and that's make a main character go from totally 'good' to totally 'bad'. He wanted to take him from Mr Chips to Scarface. But we started with a very sympathetic man. Most really COULD understand Walt's reasons. And then over the course of the show, you either begin finding it very hard to side with him anymore, or you're still kind of rooting for the underdog.

But I guess the deeper question would be, did Walt always have this in him? Was he inherently bad? What about Jesse... maybe deep down he was inherently good all along? I love that over the course of the 5 seasons, they kind of switched places, and Jesse became the 'morale' of the show.

If everybody did everything right all the time, we wouldn't be human beings. Watching a show like this can make let you see the other side of things. A lot of people live in a world like this, even if we don't. So I like getting a glimpse into this part of our society. It's very intriguing to me.

And damnit, Priscilla, finish already I am DYING to talk about the ending with you!!! LOL....

I'm trying to!! I've been so busy lately, and I've got a lot on my plate right now, so i watch where I can. but also I DON'T want to finish bc then there will be no more! LOL

[yorkiefan_]

Originally Posted by capt_noonie

I'm trying to!! I've been so busy lately, and I've got a lot on my plate right now, so i watch where I can. but also I DON'T want to finish bc then there will be no more! LOL

That's why you gotta watch it again. The series is filled with so many cool Easter eggs that are really easy to miss the first time through.

[yorkiefan_]

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I loved seeing it end with Walt finally making that robot!

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[capt_noonie]

Thanks for the Spoiler Alerts. Do you know how hard it is to NOT look after seeing the words "Spoiler alert"? LOL It's like a kid not trying to peek at his Christmas gifts before Christmas!! JK, I just scrolled down really fast and not looking directly at the screen.

[Britster]

Originally Posted by yorkiefan_

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I loved seeing it end with Walt finally making that robot!
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one of my fav scenes!