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barkleylove 06-29-2013 08:11 AM
I'd like to see a lie detector test given to every person in the media and entertainment industry who is blowing this thing out of proportion. I bet if they were asked if they ever used a derogatory term some time in their lives, most would fail. I'm certainly not condoning what Paula Dean said, I hate the word, but I think the treatment she is receiving is just too extreme. All she is guilty of is using bad judgment and that's something we are all guilty of in one way or another. It seems as if the media just can't let things go until they have totally destroyed a person. That's sad.

MauiGirl 06-29-2013 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by barkleylove (Post 4257865)
I'd like to see a lie detector test given to every person in the media and entertainment industry who is blowing this thing out of proportion. I bet if they were asked if they ever used a derogatory term some time in their lives, most would fail. I'm certainly not condoning what Paula Dean said, I hate the word, but I think the treatment she is receiving is just too extreme. All she is guilty of is using bad judgment and that's something we are all guilty of in one way or another. It seems as if the media just can't let things go until they have totally destroyed a person. That's sad.
:thumbup::thumbup: I agree completely. Even the African Americans are being more forgiving of her than her business associates, and it just keeps getting worse. It is like a domino effect, one falls, then on and on. This is way too extreme.

Princes mom 07-01-2013 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4257451)
If the n word is so offensive why do black people call each other that? Why do they listen to music that has the word in it many times?
Not all. I personally don't know any Black Americans who use that despicable word.

Lovetodream88 07-01-2013 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Princes mom (Post 4258937)
Not all. I personally don't know any Black Americans who use that despicable word.
Not all no but a lot and mostly younger under 30 years old.

Princes mom 07-01-2013 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4258955)
Not all no but a lot and mostly younger under 30 years old.
It depends a lot on the environment, of which you are a product. It is a shame to hear it in music, or casual conversation.

brezofleur 07-01-2013 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Princes mom (Post 4258992)
It depends a lot on the environment, of which you are a product. It is a shame to hear it in music, or casual conversation.
So I've heard Target and Sears(?) are pulling her merchandise. But I doubt they'll be pulling the CDs and movies that use any type of derogatory word, not just the "n" one.

Lovetodream88 07-01-2013 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by brezofleur (Post 4258999)
So I've heard Target and Sears(?) are pulling her merchandise. But I doubt they'll be pulling the CDs and movies that use any type of derogatory word, not just the "n" one.
Very true maybe we all should write them

Lovetodream88 07-01-2013 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Princes mom (Post 4258992)
It depends a lot on the environment, of which you are a product. It is a shame to hear it in music, or casual conversation.
Very true. It makes me cringe so does the f word.

Princes mom 07-01-2013 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by brezofleur (Post 4258999)
So I've heard Target and Sears(?) are pulling her merchandise. But I doubt they'll be pulling the CDs and movies that use any type of derogatory word, not just the "n" one.
Maybe this case will set the standard! That would be great! :) fair is fair!

yorkietalkjilly 07-01-2013 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by brezofleur (Post 4258999)
So I've heard Target and Sears(?) are pulling her merchandise. But I doubt they'll be pulling the CDs and movies that use any type of derogatory word, not just the "n" one.
I sure wish entertainers, producers, bankers and sponsors of profane movies, DVD's and CD's would be held to the same standards that an individual such as Paula Deen is when speaking in private or public. Perhaps it is time our entertainment industry takes some real responsibility for helping to foster an environment where people feel comfortable using and accepting profanity and vulgarity. Yet the people in the entertainment industry only say they are mirroring what takes place in society and it's not their job to clean "us" up. I guess when we stop buying their songs, books and movies and going to concerts full of profanity, entertainers will stop it.

brezofleur 07-01-2013 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly (Post 4259082)
I sure wish entertainers, producers, bankers and sponsors of profane movies, DVD's and CD's would be held to the same standards that an individual such as Paula Deen is when speaking in private or public. Perhaps it is time our entertainment industry takes some real responsibility for helping to foster an environment where people feel comfortable using and accepting profanity and vulgarity. Yet the people in the entertainment industry only say they are mirroring what takes place in society and it's not their job to clean "us" up. I guess when we stop buying their songs, books and movies and going to concerts full of profanity, entertainers will stop it.
And if THAT is the case, then why was it so bad when people say it? If it's just reinforced through society, both in the private and public spectrums, why is there still so much negativity on this awful word and others?

It's stupid, IMO. It's ok for rappers and singers (individuals) to express themselves in their music, as do writers of TV shows and movies, but it's NOT ok for someone to say something in everyday speech. Entertainment = OK and anything goes, everyday life = not OK with strict PC.

Hate these double standards. And to be honest, if it was a man who said it, it wouldn't have gotten this far.

spiritwings1202 07-01-2013 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by barkleylove (Post 4257865)
I'd like to see a lie detector test given to every person in the media and entertainment industry who is blowing this thing out of proportion. I bet if they were asked if they ever used a derogatory term some time in their lives, most would fail. I'm certainly not condoning what Paula Dean said, I hate the word, but I think the treatment she is receiving is just too extreme. All she is guilty of is using bad judgment and that's something we are all guilty of in one way or another. It seems as if the media just can't let things go until they have totally destroyed a person. That's sad.
:thumbup::thumbup:I agree!! We all have said something in our past we wished we could take back or are not proud of.

McheleM 07-01-2013 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Lil Sis (Post 4251561)
We and I do not use the "N" word. I will say in my grandma's time she used the word "colored" in the same way I would say "African American or perhaps black"-- with the people I have met as an adult and with travel bigots are not exclusive to the south.
My grandparents and in laws don't use the N word. They used NEGRO, which is what they called them. My grandpa called them colored, or darkies. (not saying its right, just stating what word he used). I have never heard any of my elders, who are all southern, use the N word!

And no one is perfect. We have all done stupid stuff in our lives- things we wish we could take back or undo.

She got caught and now has to live with the consequences of her action.

McheleM 07-01-2013 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by DvlshAngel985 (Post 4251726)
You're half right. Food doesn't cause type one diabetes, that's genetic. However, type 2 diabetes IS caused by the bad fatty food we eat. I wish I was at home so I can dig up my health book and notes to quote from. Edited to add, I know a lot of thin people who have type two diabetes.
No, type 2 diabetes is caused from the body not being able to produce enough insulin to control the sugar. Being overweight and lack of exercise help it along. Fatty foods do not CAUSE diabetes, but they contribute to it. (not everyone who is overweight eats fatty disgusting foods).

Princes mom 07-01-2013 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by McheleM (Post 4259164)
My grandparents and in laws don't use the N word. They used NEGRO, which is what they called them. My grandpa called them colored, or darkies. (not saying its right, just stating what word he used). I have never heard any of my elders, who are all southern, use the N word!

And no one is perfect. We have all done stupid stuff in our lives- things we wish we could take back or undo.

She got caught and now has to live with the consequences of her action.
When your elders used "negro, colored, or darkies" that was ignorance, and unfortunately a sign of the times. When you used "them", that was disturbing. Those three lables equal the "N" word." I'm off this thread!!!!!!!

Lovetodream88 07-01-2013 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by McheleM (Post 4259174)
No, type 2 diabetes is caused from the body not being able to produce enough insulin to control the sugar. Being overweight and lack of exercise help it along. Fatty foods do not CAUSE diabetes, but they contribute to it. (not everyone who is overweight eats fatty disgusting foods).
:thumbup: that is very very true I eat pretty darn healthy and love my veggies and stuff and am still chubby. My portions are not over sized either.

McheleM 07-02-2013 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Princes mom (Post 4259205)
When your elders used "negro, colored, or darkies" that was ignorance, and unfortunately a sign of the times. When you used "them", that was disturbing. Those three lables equal the "N" word." I'm off this thread!!!!!!!
I was commenting to the person that said "all southern people use the N word". Those 3 words do not equal the n word in my opinion. The n word ranks up there with calling a woman the C word. It's the worst. But if you asked a black person in 1930 what they preferred to be called, they would have said "black or colored". Not a "n".

And I don't use "them". I say "person" because that's what they are, regardless of color of skin.

brezofleur 07-02-2013 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by McheleM (Post 4260263)
I was commenting to the person that said "all southern people use the N word". Those 3 words do not equal the n word in my opinion. The n word ranks up there with calling a woman the C word. It's the worst. But if you asked a black person in 1930 what they preferred to be called, they would have said "black or colored". Not a "n".

And I don't use "them". I say "person" because that's what they are, regardless of color of skin.
:thumbup::thumbup:

I wish it was still the same today.

Well, let me rephrase that. I wish it was the same today with everyone. I don't really watch the show "Boondocks," but one episode I remember and took to hear was when Martin Luther King Jr came back - he had been frozen or something.

And after seeing how the culture was today, with how "they" treated each other in words and in society (excluding the "whites", as per the show), he was furious. He reprised his "I Have A Dream" speech (after seeing how his original dream was carried out):


This being said, I'm NOT stereotyping, pointing fingers, etc. I just see this as a culture (particularly in the United States as a whole)... /end disclaimer.

JoshieBoy 07-04-2013 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4257451)
If the n word is so offensive why do black people call each other that? Why do they listen to music that has the word in it many times?


I do not cherish using the N-word because of the history of the word. I’m proud of my ancestors for overcoming discrimination and slavery that I would never use that word to describe my people. Some blacks use the word to strip the power from the word by using it as a term of endearment among members of their group. Black people will decide among themselves on how we choose to deal with that word. Hip-hop music started as telling stories about street life. This type of music eventually became mainstream music, and now some people think it is socially OK to use the word around black people. I refuse to censor people for using the N-word, but if anyone chooses to use this word might face negative consequences like Paula Deen. Not all blacks listen to hip-hop music. Hip-hop music is largely supported by whites.

McheleM 07-05-2013 12:27 AM
Well I don't like it used by anyone. And I don't like being called "cracker", having Hispanics called "beaners or spics or wetbacks" having Asian people called "gooks or slant eyes", having people from India referred to as "towel heads" or any other derogatory term people come up with. It's ridiculous the things I hear.

They are PEOPLE. That's all. And they all have feelings.

(My children are Hispanic and people are just rude with their comments about my choice to marry a Hispanic man)

Lovetodream88 07-05-2013 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by McheleM (Post 4260263)
I was commenting to the person that said "all southern people use the N word". Those 3 words do not equal the n word in my opinion. The n word ranks up there with calling a woman the C word. It's the worst. But if you asked a black person in 1930 what they preferred to be called, they would have said "black or colored". Not a "n".

And I don't use "them". I say "person" because that's what they are, regardless of color of skin.
I NEVER said all southern people use the n word.

Lovetodream88 07-05-2013 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by McheleM (Post 4261585)
Well I don't like it used by anyone. And I don't like being called "cracker", having Hispanics called "beaners or spics or wetbacks" having Asian people called "gooks or slant eyes", having people from India referred to as "towel heads" or any other derogatory term people come up with. It's ridiculous the things I hear.

They are PEOPLE. That's all. And they all have feelings.

(My children are Hispanic and people are just rude with their comments about my choice to marry a Hispanic man)
I agree. I also think the word fat is very uncalled for.

yorkietalkjilly 07-05-2013 04:30 PM
I had never even heard the term "cracker" as a racial slur before last week!

Lovetodream88 07-05-2013 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly (Post 4262143)
I had never even heard the term "cracker" as a racial slur before last week!
Listen to Chris Rock

yorkietalkjilly 07-06-2013 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4262184)
Listen to Chris Rock
haha. From what I've heard, Chris Rock is pretty hard to take so I'll just steer clear and stay happily out of touch. :)

Lovetodream88 07-06-2013 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly (Post 4262473)
haha. From what I've heard, Chris Rock is pretty hard to take so I'll just steer clear and stay happily out of touch. :)
Works for me lol

lovespandp 07-08-2013 08:47 AM
I think this whole thing is ridiculous. People are treating her like she killed someone. Geez-o we have way more serious issues in this world than what someone says..

Lovetodream88 07-08-2013 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by lovespandp (Post 4264170)
I think this whole thing is ridiculous. People are treating her like she killed someone. Geez-o we have way more serious issues in this world than what someone says..
Yeppers


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