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Maximo 06-22-2013 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 4252175)
Just not buying some of it quite yet. Yes, she admitted to some things, but so far only one side has spoken on the bathroom issue, etc. I'm not at all surprised that she is putting on an act. It is televusion after all... This reminds me of I Love Lucy and all the horrible things that went on behind the scenes.

Anyway, I'm left wondering why more employees aren't.joining in and why she chose to sue Heirs, Deen, their restaurants, and Deen's company. Seems a bit odd to me that if Heirs was behind most of it, Deen's separate company is being sued.

It is curious that more employees aren't speaking up.

As for who is being sued, that is the lawyers doing. They go after as much as possible. Maybe Deen's company is the official holder/half investor in the restaurant. That kind of thing.

Lovetodream88 06-22-2013 04:20 PM

Document: Paula Deen's testimony

Here is her deposition. She said they has separate bathrooms for workers and then for paying customers not different races..........

yorkietalkjilly 06-22-2013 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 4252177)
It is curious that more employees aren't speaking up.

As for who is being sued, that is the lawyers doing. They go after as much as possible. Maybe Deen's company is the official holder/half investor in the restaurant. That kind of thing.

Exactly right. If there were discrimination in the workplace, I am certain that more employees would have spoken up long before now after carefully documenting evidence of the discrimination and quickly reported her to the EEOC and DOJ CR Div. to start and one or two would have no doubt called a major TV network or two, started a Facebook page and then maybe they still would have sued her after all of that took place first. But even if the people were desperate for jobs and didn't report her to federal agencies right away, no doubt they would have documented evidence of it and several would have eventually come forward and registered complaints. I don't know what the reporting limits for a federal discrimination complaint is but if there is one and the employee let the time expire or years go by and not file, I would think that really weakens any civil case they might have on the separate bathroom, employee entrance issue even if they do have some type of documentation. This part of the Deen thing seems weak right now.

yorkietalkjilly 06-22-2013 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4252244)
Document: Paula Deen's testimony

Here is her deposition. She said they has separate bathrooms for workers and then for paying customers not different races..........

That sounds more believable right now unless there is some dang good proof to the contrary.

Lovetodream88 06-22-2013 04:43 PM

I read the deposition and I feel she is being very honest but I also feel she is trying to protect her brother and I admire that because I come from a family where we would do anything for each other and I didn't know there where family's who wouldn't do that until I really got to know my fathers side of the family. There is always going to be gossip and jealousy when it comes to famous people.

BabyGirl Rosie 06-22-2013 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4252244)
Document: Paula Deen's testimony

Here is her deposition. She said they has separate bathrooms for workers and then for paying customers not different races..........

Well that is much better than the other way!!

yorkietalkjilly 06-22-2013 04:52 PM

Well, if she's a good person at heart she'll get away any my culture-made-me-do it mentality that some of her fans are using to try to excuse her, take her lumps, make amends as best she can and do whatever is possible to repair the hurt she's caused many good people. Knowing most people, she'll be forgiven in time. I don't think she's any Mel Gibson at heart or anything. -

Maximo 06-22-2013 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4252244)
Document: Paula Deen's testimony

Here is her deposition. She said they has separate bathrooms for workers and then for paying customers not different races..........

The person who filed the lawsuit claims that only white employees were allowed to use the customer bathrooms in the front of the restaurant. I assume the restaurant had black customers, so wouldn't make sense if management's intent was segregation.

I hope Paula's testimony is correct on this subject.

Lil Sis 06-22-2013 04:56 PM

the sad thing if she is not guilty it really doesn't matter... her career is over. I am sure she is not guilty of most of what the rumor mill is saying, but there is some small truth

Maximo 06-22-2013 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4252268)
I read the deposition and I feel she is being very honest but I also feel she is trying to protect her brother and I admire that because I come from a family where we would do anything for each other and I didn't know there where family's who wouldn't do that until I really got to know my fathers side of the family. There is always going to be gossip and jealousy when it comes to famous people.

If my family member did something wrong or committed a crime, I would tell the truth and I would encourage them to take responsibility for their actions.

sugarmamma 06-22-2013 05:24 PM

:thumbup::thumbup:


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Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 4252279)
If my family member did something wrong or committed a crime, I would tell the truth and I would encourage them to take responsibility for their actions.



:thumbup: :thumbup:

yorkietalkjilly 06-22-2013 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 4252279)
If my family member did something wrong or committed a crime, I would tell the truth and I would encourage them to take responsibility for their actions.

Same here. Even though I love them dearly and beyond measure, they'd need to own their deeds or I couldn't respect them for a wrong they wouldn't acknowledge or tried to duck.

Lovetodream88 06-22-2013 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 4252279)
If my family member did something wrong or committed a crime, I would tell the truth and I would encourage them to take responsibility for their actions.

My Grandma said she would still love and try to protect one of her kids even if they killed someone. I could never say how it would be for my kids because I don't have any but Callie :) but I can say my mother has always been my consent and I think I would probably do anything I humanly could to protect her whether she was wrong or not.

Lovetodream88 06-22-2013 05:57 PM

Reading her deposition I think the food network reacted to quickly and I hope another network will pick her up because I don't see her as a bad person at all I felt she was very honest and that its all the gossip and rumors that are causing the problems. Even if he brother did wrong that is not her fault if she did not know about it.

sugarmamma 06-22-2013 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4252316)
My Grandma said she would still love and try to protect one of her kids even if they killed someone. I could never say how it would be for my kids because I don't have any but Callie :) but I can say my mother has always been my consent and I think I would probably do anything I humanly could to protect her whether she was wrong or not.

I understand that kind of love, Taylor, but it's wrong to lie to protect someone. Especially in the example of murder you gave. I know it was an example but people have to own up to their actions. Even if the action is much smaller than that.

capt_noonie 06-22-2013 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 4252177)
It is curious that more employees aren't speaking up.

As for who is being sued, that is the lawyers doing. They go after as much as possible. Maybe Deen's company is the official holder/half investor in the restaurant. That kind of thing.

There are a LOT of undocumented workers in the restaurant industry. They put with up very low wages and sometimes harassment, etc bc they know they can't complain to anyone out of fear. Fear of getting in trouble or getting deported. They want to keep the job so they keep their mouth shut.

yorkietalkjilly 06-22-2013 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4252318)
Reading her deposition I think the food network reacted to quickly and I hope another network will pick her up because I don't see her as a bad person at all I felt she was very honest and that its all the gossip and rumors that are causing the problems. Even if he brother did wrong that is not her fault if she did not know about it.

What Deen admitted to saying is the problem - no need try to whitewash it. I'm sure she's big enough and strong to defend herself for what she did and said. I doubt she expects her fans to try to cover for her in some way if she's a good person.

And don't worry Taylor, your mom and dad and grandparents love you, raised you to do right and any one of them would glady surrender themselves to authorities before they would ever allow you to lie to police to try save them just the same as you would do if the tables were turned. Protective love works both ways. :)

JoshieBoy 06-23-2013 02:34 AM

I do not watch the cooking channel, so I was never a fan of Paula Deen. When I saw her on TV talk shows, I perceived her as a sweet and funny Southern woman that liked to cook fattening dishes. :rofl28ib: Now my perception of her has changed after reading about why her contract was not renewed with the cooking channel. To me, Paula Dean is the type of women that romanticized and probably would have enjoyed the Southern plantation lifestyle before the Civil War. The times have changed. Today most brands and companies strive to be perceived as inclusive to the public. She was bad press for the cooking channel, so the cooking channel decided to part ways.

I do not like the idea that Paula felt comfortable freely using the n-word, but I’m more astound that she loved the idea of a plantation theme wedding with black people, functioning as slaves, serving the guest. :crazy: Nobody should use the n-word because of the history of the word. I have heard many racial groups used derogative words towards their people, but every sane person knows that outsiders should not use those words unless they want to instigate a fight. Most of the people I heard using the n-word are entertainers and not every day black folks.

Maximo 06-23-2013 07:35 AM

What a mess. The lawyer for the woman suing Paul Deen and her brother for sexual harassment and racial slurs tweeted that he looked forward to "doing" and "undressing" Deen during discovery, and that prosecuting her was a "real hoot."

The laywer, Billips, used "obscene, bawdy, and racially-charged language when conversing with his Twitter followers," according to the judgment denying Deen's team's request to have him removed from the case.

Sounds like all these people need a large dose of dignity and sensitivity.

MyDearSam 06-23-2013 07:44 AM

I think they should just dismiss the case. Whether the accusations are true or not, the court of public opinion has tried and condemned PD already, mostly based on garbage reporting from sources like TMZ, Daily Mail, and NY Post. Her reputation and career are effectively in ruins. Isn't it really a moot point by now?

Maximo 06-23-2013 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by MyDearSam (Post 4252704)
I think they should just dismiss the case. Whether the accusations are true or not, the court of public opinion has tried and condemned PD already, mostly based on garbage reporting from sources like TMZ, Daily Mail, and NY Post. Her reputation and career are effectively in ruins. Isn't it really a moot point by now?

The woman who filed the lawsuit is seeking a financial settlement.

Princes mom 06-23-2013 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4251431)
The n word is used a lot by older southern people. My Grandmothers aunt who raised her would occasionally use it but not in a necessary terrible way just as if some one would say black person she would say the n word it was just how she was raised. She was anything from a terrible person though. She married her husband and took in all of his kids and was there mother and took in my Grandmother and her Brother and did amazing things and touched many lives. I also think if people don't want to be called a certain name they should also not call each other a certain name.

Any time the "n" word is used, is terrible! It doesn't matter who uses it! Very, very offensive! (Wow, it't hard to believe that this is 2013).

Lovetodream88 06-23-2013 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 4252713)
The woman who filed the lawsuit is seeking a financial settlement.

Hmmm sounds like someone just wants money......

Maximo 06-23-2013 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4253464)
Hmmm sounds like someone just wants money......

Financial compensation for damages is the intent of filing this kind of lawsuit. Here is the official complaint filed:

http://www.atlawblog.com/wp-content/...-Complaint.pdf

The last couple of pages detail what Lisa Jackson is seeking. Is is curious that she continued to work in the restaurant for 5 years, and wrote a business proposal for Paula in which she praised the way the whole family business operated.

I think Jackson is an opportunist, and Paula and her brother have a lot of soul searching to do.

Princes mom 06-25-2013 02:25 PM

[quote=Lovetodream88;4251431]The n word is used a lot by older southern people. My Grandmothers aunt who raised her would occasionally use it but not in a necessary terrible way just as if some one would say black person she would say the n word it was just how she was raised. She was anything from a terrible person though. She married her husband and took in all of his kids and was there mother and took in my Grandmother and her Brother and did amazing things and touched many lives. I also think if people don't want to be called a certain name they should also not call each other a certain

Yorkiemom1 06-26-2013 12:35 PM

I read on the "We Support Paula Deen" facebook page, that the person that initiated the lawsuit has admitted she lied about what she said about Paula. Now......the sad thing about all this is Paula has been defamed and had her character publically drug through the mud.....and she has faced so much public humilliation and embarrassment, and has lost her little spot on food network, all over a lie.....and what is so sad is the person that caused all this drama, will walk away, without so much as a scratch. All the TV talk show hosts, all the "journalists, all the public figures that are so quick to grab up that ever present race card and throw it down, they will just get quiet, let the dust settle, and go on to their next big story, with NO apology coming from THEM to Paula.......Thank God for all the thousands of people that have come forward, especially people of color, people that KNOW this lady on a personal level, that know she is no racist, have stood up for her, on her behalf, to support a person and friend they feel was maliciously maligned.....all over one lousy, hurtful, stupid, lie about a stupid, insensitive, mean spirited word. How utterly unfortunate.......I wish her dear "friend" Oprah, would have had the courage of HER convictions and stepped up and defended the person she thought Paula was.

MauiGirl 06-26-2013 08:34 PM

It is all quite sad. I think the Food Network should ask each of the chefs under oath if they have ever in life used the N-word, and fire those that have.

Paula only admitted to using the word in regard to a person that held a gun to her head in a bank, many years ago.

Still there will be more info to come forward, but so far I stand by my feeling that she is not a racists, and has been punished too severely.

I do not condone the use of the word ever, including by black comedians and certain people who feel they have a right to use it.

Lovetodream88 06-26-2013 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MauiGirl (Post 4256235)
It is all quite sad. I think the Food Network should ask each of the chefs under oath if they have ever in life used the N-word, and fire those that have.

Paula only admitted to using the word in regard to a person that held a gun to her head in a bank, many years ago.

Still there will be more info to come forward, but so far I stand by my feeling that she is not a racists, and has been punished too severely.

I do not condone the use of the word ever, including by black comedians and certain people who feel they have a right to use it.

and maybe the word fat and so forth......

Lovetodream88 06-26-2013 09:18 PM

Did any one watch the today show? Made my Grandma cry I feel so bad for her and I believe her.

Wylie's Mom 06-27-2013 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MauiGirl (Post 4256235)
It is all quite sad. I think the Food Network should ask each of the chefs under oath if they have ever in life used the N-word, and fire those that have.

Paula only admitted to using the word in regard to a person that held a gun to her head in a bank, many years ago.

Still there will be more info to come forward, but so far I stand by my feeling that she is not a racists, and has been punished too severely.

I do not condone the use of the word ever, including by black comedians and certain people who feel they have a right to use it.

This pretty much captures how I feel too. Her current endeavors have basically all been destroyed...and that, to me, is too extreme a consequence to pay for using a word she shouldn't have.

Think of Tiger Woods - he lost almost all of his endorsers back during his cheating scandal. Now in that case, I totally understand and think it was very valid bc the utter extent of his abhorrent behavior, pretense, and lies went so deep/far. But in Paula's case, I think her endorsers are the ones who went too far. It makes me think they were already looking for a way to jump ship for whatever reasons, and just used this convenient scandal to do so.


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