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Lil Sis 06-27-2013 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Yorkiemom1 (Post 4255883)
I read on the "We Support Paula Deen" facebook page, that the person that initiated the lawsuit has admitted she lied about what she said about Paula. Now......the sad thing about all this is Paula has been defamed and had her character publically drug through the mud.....and she has faced so much public humilliation and embarrassment, and has lost her little spot on food network, all over a lie.....and what is so sad is the person that caused all this drama, will walk away, without so much as a scratch. All the TV talk show hosts, all the "journalists, all the public figures that are so quick to grab up that ever present race card and throw it down, they will just get quiet, let the dust settle, and go on to their next big story, with NO apology coming from THEM to Paula.......Thank God for all the thousands of people that have come forward, especially people of color, people that KNOW this lady on a personal level, that know she is no racist, have stood up for her, on her behalf, to support a person and friend they feel was maliciously maligned.....all over one lousy, hurtful, stupid, lie about a stupid, insensitive, mean spirited word. How utterly unfortunate.......I wish her dear "friend" Oprah, would have had the courage of HER convictions and stepped up and defended the person she thought Paula was.



I agree... I had such mixed feelings about the who,e mess at first. Then I started reading and I came to the decision IMO it was a "framing" Paula.


She said it well...anyone who is guiltless of doing something or saying Something they are ashamed of Something when they were younger ...throw the first stone.

Maximo 06-27-2013 09:36 AM

The woman who filed the lawsuit, I haven't seen any news reports that she has recanted her story. Is she dropping the lawsuit? I don't have much sympathy for her because no matter what the truth is about the working environment at the restaurant and related Deen enterprises, she stayed there for 5 years -- and tried to expand her role with an unsolicited business proposal she wrote for Deen.

The problem I have with Paula Deen relates to her own words in the deposition and a couple of videotaped interviews. When she talks about having wanted a true Southern plantation wedding for her brother with all black waiters. Her explanation to the lawyer deposing her was that she had been to a restaurant in Tennessee with all black waiters and they were "so professional."

In an interview she talked about a relative -- great grandfather? -- who had a plantation, lost his son in the Civil War, lost the war, and lost the "workers", so he shot himself. The workers were slaves. She goes on to say, referring to the time period, that blacks were like family.
Paula Deen on Livestream

Only Paula Deen knows what is in her heart, but some of the things that have come out of her mouth are :confused:.

sandy simpson 06-27-2013 05:22 PM

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We reap what we sow. Paula Dean needed to watch her mouth. Out of the mouth come the most hurtful words. Wise people think before they speak. Anyone married and wants to stay happily married needs to bite their tongue many times. Paula should have bit her tongue. Now she pays the consequence for her actions. I do not feel sorry for her.

Lovetodream88 06-27-2013 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 4256512)
The woman who filed the lawsuit, I haven't seen any news reports that she has recanted her story. Is she dropping the lawsuit? I don't have much sympathy for her because no matter what the truth is about the working environment at the restaurant and related Deen enterprises, she stayed there for 5 years -- and tried to expand her role with an unsolicited business proposal she wrote for Deen.

The problem I have with Paula Deen relates to her own words in the deposition and a couple of videotaped interviews. When she talks about having wanted a true Southern plantation wedding for her brother with all black waiters. Her explanation to the lawyer deposing her was that she had been to a restaurant in Tennessee with all black waiters and they were "so professional."

In an interview she talked about a relative -- great grandfather? -- who had a plantation, lost his son in the Civil War, lost the war, and lost the "workers", so he shot himself. The workers were slaves. She goes on to say, referring to the time period, that blacks were like family.
Paula Deen on Livestream

Only Paula Deen knows what is in her heart, but some of the things that have come out of her mouth are :confused:.

I saw that interview as well. To some them where like family I understand they where still slaves and that was wrong but some did treat them as good as they could. No one likes to really talk about that though just the ones who treated them horribly.

Lovetodream88 06-27-2013 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sandy simpson (Post 4256885)
We reap what we sow. Paula Dean needed to watch her mouth. Out of the mouth come the most hurtful words. Wise people think before they speak. Anyone married and wants to stay happily married needs to bite their tongue many times. Paula should have bit her tongue. Now she pays the consequence for her actions. I do not feel sorry for her.

wow people can change a lot in 30 years and she said she never said it any other time but when a black man had held a gun to her head and when she was telling her husband about it it she said she might have used it that one time. We all say things we shouldn't and we should not cast stones unless we are sinless. I personally find it very hard to believe people find that word so offensive when they call each other that and listen to music that says it like 10 times. Can't have it both ways you either hate the word and don't use it or you use it and obviously aren't offended by it.

Lovetodream88 06-27-2013 05:59 PM

They businesses who cut her obviously don't know loyalty and just care about money and in the end the money you made isn't going to matter.

TresCutePiggies 06-27-2013 11:26 PM

Okay, I know I'm way behind on this post, but I must speak up. First, I am Georgia born and raised, and I have NEVER uttered the N-word. I say good riddance to Paula Deen, not that I ever paid her much attention before.

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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 4251771)
Food doesn't *cause* either type. Even bad fatty foods don't cause it. It's like saying water causes dehydration. It's the lack of water that causes dehydration. Food is a contributor to diabetes only if/when that food is abused / used in excess and IF the person is also genetically or otherwise vulnerable to developing diabetes. It's never just the normal use of food. Obesity is a huge factor, and obesity is *not* always caused by just food - sometimes it's solely caused by genetic disorders (often linked to Leptin etc). Type 2 can also be secondary to certain other diseases; it also can be caused/triggered/secondary to medications one takes (which is really the most tragic, in my mind). And btw, type 2 is also genetic, not just type 1. Type 2 is less vulnerable to genetics than type 1, but it's still about 10% influenced by genetics (and that's statistically meaningful). Thin people can have either Type 1 or 2. Many Type 1 brittle diabetics are often quite thin (but not always).

Like we learned in nursing school at length, pretty much all diseases (esp diabetes) is a matter of nature and nurture - in other words, genetics and lifestyle. In the medical world, none of us would ever say it's caused by food bc that's technically and medically incorrect. In layperson's terms, it's correct to say that food can be a *contributor* if abused and/or if the person is vulnerable to getting diabetes (which, btw, most of us don't even know until after the fact).

Thank you; thank you; thank you! Actually, type 2 has a much stronger genetic component than type 1: Genetics of Diabetes - American Diabetes Association Getting type 1 is really like winning the lottery in a lot of ways. :rolleyes: We have lots of autoimmune issues in my family, but I'm the only type 1 diabetic.

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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 4251774)
No, it's actually not always by food choices at all. If you study obesity studies, you'll see that's not medically correct. There are genetic disorders aplenty where people eat a normal amount or even LESS, but are constrained by a genetic anomaly that causes them to be overweight regardless. They've found this sometimes has to do with leptin. Obesity can also be secondary to medications, other diseases. It's just not medically correct to say that being overweight is solely caused by food - that's really unfair to those where is not caused whatsoever by food. It causes a lot of prejudicial thinking, too, btw...but I'm not saying at all that you feel that way (not at all! :)).

I am so glad you are so educated on this and speaking up. :) I'm a type 1 (guess what - we grow up and it's still type 1), and I can't tell you how horrible the blame associated with both types of diabetes is. It's just wrong. No one DESERVES diabetes of either type. The media has done us all a great disservice referring to "diabetes" without mentioning type (they always mean type 2, btw) and implying that all diabetics sit on their sofas shoveling pork rinds and Big Macs into their mouths, and if we'd all just get up and move and start eating salad we'd be "cured." By the way (this is directed to certain TV doctors), once you have diabetes of either type, you can't be cured. Some people may be able to control their type 2 through diet, exercise and weight loss, but if they returned to eating "normally" their episodes of hyperglycemia would return. It's more of a remission of sorts. The only exception to this seems to be some extremely obese people who have weight loss surgery, who are considered "cured" before they leave the hospital.

I constantly feel on the defensive when someone figures out I'm diabetic. Many people are well-intentioned, but there is judgment that goes into it, and most have no desire to learn about diabetes, the different types, and the fact that I actually CAN eat a cupcake without putting my life at risk.

I actually came across this great video today, and I hope some of you will take the time to watch it: Peter Attia: What if we?re wrong about diabetes? | Video on TED.com

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Originally Posted by capt_noonie (Post 4251966)
I would really be interested to know the percentage of people who have diabetes 1 or 2 that doesn't have anything to do with eating fast food or bad for you food. I know that's probably impossible to get that info, but it's really hard for me to believe that people with Type 2 don't have issues with food. Why are so many first to claim genetics and not their decisions.

I hope you'll watch the video I linked above. There are many who believe insulin resistance leads to obesity which can lead to type 2 diabetes.

Type 1 diabetes is 100% not related to food at all. It is an autoimmune disease caused when the body attacks the beta cells in the pancreas. The pancreas can then no longer make insulin. This is why all type 1 diabetics require insulin to live, either by injection or infused by a pump. No amount of diet, exercise, or oral medication (to decrease insulin resistance) will make a dead pancreas start making insulin. I was a competitive gymnast, around 100 lbs, when I was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes. My mom was a health food nut, and I ate crazy healthy growing up.

I always direct people to this link, because it much more succinctly says much of what I want to say ;) : Educating Others - TypeOneNation

I am stepping off my soapbox. For now. :D

Wylie's Mom 06-28-2013 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by TresCutePiggies (Post 4257077)
Okay, I know I'm way behind on this post, but I must speak up. First, I am Georgia born and raised, and I have NEVER uttered the N-word. I say good riddance to Paula Deen, not that I ever paid her much attention before.



Thank you; thank you; thank you! Actually, type 2 has a much stronger genetic component than type 1: Genetics of Diabetes - American Diabetes Association Getting type 1 is really like winning the lottery in a lot of ways. :rolleyes: We have lots of autoimmune issues in my family, but I'm the only type 1 diabetic.



I am so glad you are so educated on this and speaking up. :) I'm a type 1 (guess what - we grow up and it's still type 1), and I can't tell you how horrible the blame associated with both types of diabetes is. It's just wrong. No one DESERVES diabetes of either type. The media has done us all a great disservice referring to "diabetes" without mentioning type (they always mean type 2, btw) and implying that all diabetics sit on their sofas shoveling pork rinds and Big Macs into their mouths, and if we'd all just get up and move and start eating salad we'd be "cured." By the way (this is directed to certain TV doctors), once you have diabetes of either type, you can't be cured. Some people may be able to control their type 2 through diet, exercise and weight loss, but if they returned to eating "normally" their episodes of hyperglycemia would return. It's more of a remission of sorts. The only exception to this seems to be some extremely obese people who have weight loss surgery, who are considered "cured" before they leave the hospital.

I constantly feel on the defensive when someone figures out I'm diabetic. Many people are well-intentioned, but there is judgment that goes into it, and most have no desire to learn about diabetes, the different types, and the fact that I actually CAN eat a cupcake without putting my life at risk.

I actually came across this great video today, and I hope some of you will take the time to watch it: Peter Attia: What if we?re wrong about diabetes? | Video on TED.com



I hope you'll watch the video I linked above. There are many who believe insulin resistance leads to obesity which can lead to type 2 diabetes.

Type 1 diabetes is 100% not related to food at all. It is an autoimmune disease caused when the body attacks the beta cells in the pancreas. The pancreas can then no longer make insulin. This is why all type 1 diabetics require insulin to live, either by injection or infused by a pump. No amount of diet, exercise, or oral medication (to decrease insulin resistance) will make a dead pancreas start making insulin. I was a competitive gymnast, around 100 lbs, when I was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes. My mom was a health food nut, and I ate crazy healthy growing up.

I always direct people to this link, because it much more succinctly says much of what I want to say ;) : Educating Others - TypeOneNation

I am stepping off my soapbox. For now. :D

I'm so sorry to hear you've experienced some of the incorrect prejudicial thinking that sometimes accompanies diabetes - that is so unfair :( and so unwarranted. My degree is in nursing, so I've seen firsthand what diabetes means to different people (both to those who do have it and who don't). It's important for people to be educated about it, not just because it exists - but bc it often exists under such false information/beliefs...and that can really hurt people.

I think it's just great that you are able to speak out so positively and accurately about it :):):)! It's a great way to spread the truth. Btw, my cousin was probably around the same age as you when he was diagnosed with it and he too was of normal weight and seemed otherwise healthy. He really, really had a tough time accepting it - for years - but is finally doing well. It's especially tough to be diagnosed as a child, imo.

yorkietalkjilly 06-28-2013 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4256917)
I saw that interview as well. To some them where like family I understand they where still slaves and that was wrong but some did treat them as good as they could. No one likes to really talk about that though just the ones who treated them horribly.

Don't treat me as family if I'm a slave - free me and my wife and kids.

Lovetodream88 06-28-2013 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly (Post 4257241)
Don't treat me as family if I'm a slave - free me and my wife and kids.

When you grow up a certain way that's all you know.

Ldyrev1 06-28-2013 10:10 AM

Paula Dean admitted to using the "N" word over 30 years ago. The media has blown this completely out of proportion and I feel that Paula has become a victim.

richards6402 06-28-2013 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Ldyrev1 (Post 4257311)
Paula Dean admitted to using the "N" word over 30 years ago. The media has blown this completely out of proportion and I feel that Paula has become a victim.

I am probably going to put my foot in my mouth but here goes.......

I have never really liked Paula because she always seemed too phoney for my taste but I agree she has become a victim.

What about the rapper that shows the American flag on the ground and he is stomping on it in his video? The media hasn't latched onto that like it has Paula for saying the N word 30 years ago.

OK, I've said what is on my mind, now I'll shut up.

chachi 06-28-2013 11:00 AM

IRetract my statement about paula being a racist i thoughr it was said publcally but my husband it was said privately to her husband 30 yrs ago and that is hher business and no one elses

Lil Sis 06-28-2013 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 4256512)
The woman who filed the lawsuit, I haven't seen any news reports that she has recanted her story. Is she dropping the lawsuit? I don't have much sympathy for her because no matter what the truth is about the working environment at the restaurant and related Deen enterprises, she stayed there for 5 years -- and tried to expand her role with an unsolicited business proposal she wrote for Deen.

The problem I have with Paula Deen relates to her own words in the deposition and a couple of videotaped interviews. When she talks about having wanted a true Southern plantation wedding for her brother with all black waiters. Her explanation to the lawyer deposing her was that she had been to a restaurant in Tennessee with all black waiters and they were "so professional."

In an interview she talked about a relative -- great grandfather? -- who had a plantation, lost his son in the Civil War, lost the war, and lost the "workers", so he shot himself. The workers were slaves. She goes on to say, referring to the time period, that blacks were like family.
Paula Deen on Livestream

Only Paula Deen knows what is in her heart, but some of the things that have come out of her mouth are :confused:.



Just as a point .. The south was not the only culture based on slavery nor were people of African decent the only people's to be slaves. I am southern and proud of it, but it is a conflict for me...as proud as I am I am ashamed of the fact it was one of the last cultures that had slaves. I often wonder who we would be and what we would believe in if we were born in that time. I was blessed to be raised by a family and a community that believe we all are Gods children but others were not... I honestly feel sorry for some people who are so full of hate..from all cultures.

yorkietalkjilly 06-28-2013 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4257308)
When you grow up a certain way that's all you know.

That's can be true but those that are good, caring and compassionate people at heart learn to stand up to the wrongs about how they were raised as they mature and fight against it, even in the face of great hardship. I know, I was raised in a largely racist society and as a very young person fought against those in my very family when I knew they were wrong. They didn't like it but they respected my views because they were morally sound. And eventually the family changed, just like all good people do.

yorkietalkjilly 06-28-2013 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ldyrev1 (Post 4257311)
Paula Dean admitted to using the "N" word over 30 years ago. The media has blown this completely out of proportion and I feel that Paula has become a victim.

And that includes all media - news and social. And those sponsors and even some of Deen's friends don't seem to be sticking by her. No doubt it's largely because she's Southern and news, social media and the internet culture are biased in their own ways against someone from the South. As South can be against them and so it goes. Hopefully in time her grave mistake will be forgiven and people will move on and let her move on. A terrible and degrading use of the N-word that recalls something so shameful as slavery shouldn't really pigeon-hole someone for the rest of their life as a bad person because it's the PC thing to do. Especially if that person has changed their ways and is sorry for past deeds and works to make things better for those hurt. I so hate mob mentality that just keeps on feeding on itself. If she's treated anything like Martha Stewart, Ray Lewis, Kobe Bryant, James Brown, Michael Vick and other celebrities, this new "enlightened" culture of ours will accept her back in time the same as the others.

ladyjane 06-28-2013 12:35 PM

Oh...and let's not forget Mark Sanford. If he can make a comeback, anyone can. I mean, forget about what he told his wife...he told his staff he would be hiking on the Appalachian Trail.

yorkietalkjilly 06-28-2013 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 4257401)
Oh...and let's not forget Mark Sanford. If he can make a comeback, anyone can. I mean, forget about what he told his wife...he told his staff he would be hiking on the Appalachian Trail.

I did forget him! :)

ladyjane 06-28-2013 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly (Post 4257420)
I did forget him! :)

Oh...and of course Anthony Weiner who is running for NYC Mayor. I honestly don't care about his online activities but I am using him as another example of the public being forgiving.

yorkietalkjilly 06-28-2013 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 4257429)
Oh...and of course Anthony Weiner who is running for NYC Mayor. I honestly don't care about his online activities but I am using him as another example of the public being forgiving.

Oh, Weiner, yes, yes. The media gave him a sound send off couple years back! There is a growling rogues gallery over the years of public figures who cross the line, get tarred-and-feathered by the news and social media and then find their way back in some form or fashion. People with money have a way of doing that.

ladyjane 06-28-2013 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly (Post 4257432)
Oh, Weiner, yes, yes. The media gave him a sound send off couple years back! There is a growling rogues gallery over the years of public figures who cross the line, get tarred-and-feathered by the news and social media and then find their way back in some form or fashion. People with money have a way of doing that.

Indeed they do. I really hate using the politicians because I don't mean to say their offenses were in any way similar.
BUT....here is one for you: Alec Baldwin The man goes into homophobic rants and everyone ignores it...yet Paula gets slammed for using the N word 30 years ago. Go figure.
I guess it is ok to discriminate against gays? Crazy world we live in.

Lovetodream88 06-28-2013 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly (Post 4257378)
And that includes all media - news and social. And those sponsors and even some of Deen's friends don't seem to be sticking by her. No doubt it's largely because she's Southern and news, social media and the internet culture are biased in their own ways against someone from the South. As South can be against them and so it goes. Hopefully in time her grave mistake will be forgiven and people will move on and let her move on. A terrible and degrading use of the N-word that recalls something so shameful as slavery shouldn't really pigeon-hole someone for the rest of their life as a bad person because it's the PC thing to do. Especially if that person has changed their ways and is sorry for past deeds and works to make things better for those hurt. I so hate mob mentality that just keeps on feeding on itself. If she's treated anything like Martha Stewart, Ray Lewis, Kobe Bryant, James Brown, Michael Vick and other celebrities, this new "enlightened" culture of ours will accept her back in time the same as the others.

If the n word is so offensive why do black people call each other that? Why do they listen to music that has the word in it many times?

yorkietalkjilly 06-28-2013 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 4257449)
Indeed they do. I really hate using the politicians because I don't mean to say their offenses were in any way similar.
BUT....here is one for you: Alec Baldwin The man goes into homophobic rants and everyone ignores it...yet Paula gets slammed for using the N word 30 years ago. Go figure.
I guess it is ok to discriminate against gays? Crazy world we live in.

Alec Baldwin always gets such a pass since he's in the "in" crowd.

Lovetodream88 06-28-2013 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 4257449)
Indeed they do. I really hate using the politicians because I don't mean to say their offenses were in any way similar.
BUT....here is one for you: Alec Baldwin The man goes into homophobic rants and everyone ignores it...yet Paula gets slammed for using the N word 30 years ago. Go figure.
I guess it is ok to discriminate against gays? Crazy world we live in.

And blacks get to call whites names and it gets ignored.

ladyjane 06-28-2013 01:55 PM

I knew I shouldn't post on this thread.

I am going to say one thing and then unsubscribe...two wrongs do not make a right.

Lovetodream88 06-28-2013 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 4257465)
I knew I shouldn't post on this thread.

I am going to say one thing and then unsubscribe...two wrongs do not make a right.

I am not trying to be mean or anything like that. I am just saying why does every body freak out over a word that black people call each other and singers use in there songs when someone not black uses the word yet Asians, Mexicans, Spanish, Indians,whites, ect get called a name and no one cares? I'm not racist never have been I dated a two black guys and had many friends who were black. But I absolutely can not get over the fact that its ok for some people to use a word but not the other people it drives me crazy. No one who was a slave or who is from that time is still around so everyone should let the slave thing go it was horrible but I should not be punished for it neither should other people. If the n word is so terrible then black people should not use it.

Lovetodream88 06-28-2013 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ladyjane (Post 4257465)
I knew I shouldn't post on this thread.

I am going to say one thing and then unsubscribe...two wrongs do not make a right.

I did not mean to offend you Linda I am just young and opinionated :D

Lil Sis 06-28-2013 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4257458)
And blacks get to call whites names and it gets ignored.


I get what you are saying. Two things... one be carful of grouping people together.. SOME blacks call SOME whites names..


Second... at this time in our culture IMO because in the past the eurpoean whites had been so dominate and in power and perhaps curel it is payback time.. it feels like it is ok to call us names and we do not have "white" groups for example "white Miss America" but that is now.. I do hope in the future it will changed. It is a time of healing and working out a new system. I have seen reverse hatred but I blame that person not that group.

I agree with you in the statment just because you may have had a great great grand father was a slave ower you can not be blamed .. just like we can't blame all Germans for wwII.. people must be judged for the here and now...

Paula.. well she is of that generation that is mid change. I think the word is horrible.. but it is just a word and I am more worried about the meaning behind it.. how it is used, even why it is used. I do wonder if it will ever go away becuase it has other meanings such a "home boy" type affection -- well at least that is what I have been told.

DvlshAngel985 06-28-2013 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4257451)
If the n word is so offensive why do black people call each other that? Why do they listen to music that has the word in it many times?

Go back to page 2. It's not a perfect answer to your question, but yorkietalkjilly adressed your question. She explains why some people choose to use that word in an effort to take the sting out of such a hurtful word.

Lovetodream88 06-28-2013 07:28 PM

I think sense Al Sharpton's not mad at Paula that nobody should be :D just trying to add a little humor to something so sad and serious. Just how I deal


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