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concretegurl · 10-26-2011, 02:54 PM

Light bulds solved but huh not locally, or inexpensively!
Lights of America
CFL's have mercury which is harmful for the environment.

There are NO CFL light buld manufacturers in the USA because they are so hazardous to the environment in production we BAN them (by default due to EPA regulations) being produced here!
How freaking scarey is that! The EPA-doesn't even budge or take a bribe on this one, even with BIG money corporation it is illegal here!

concretegurl · 10-26-2011, 02:59 PM

Light bulds solved but huh not locally, or inexpensively!
Lights of America
CFL's have mercury which is harmful for the environment.

There are NO CFL light buld manufacturers in the USA because they are so hazardous to the environment in production we BAN them (by default due to EPA regulations) being produced here!
How freaking scarey is that! The EPA-doesn't even budge or take a bribe on this one, even with BIG money corporation it is illegal here!

capt_noonie · 10-26-2011, 04:13 PM

I posted an article from another thread that I thought kind of touches on this subject a bit. Particularly the last paragraph about goods made in US and/or Italy, pertaining to the fashion industry:

What the Fashion Industry Doesn’t Want You to Know

Most of the fashion industry is built on an illusion of glamour. Even those of us who love the sequined, sartorial facade (And we do most of the time!) have to admit that that there are certain uncomfortable truths about the industry that are anything but beautiful. Here's a small peek at what's behind the couture curtain.

They Crave Young Models—but Not Just For Their Looks
The reason runway shows are full of Slovenian teenagers isn’t only because clothes look inherently better on younger women. Designers and modeling agencies depend on a steady flow of extremely young girls because they’re the only ones who will work for free, live in crowded apartments, and have their occasional wages docked by their agencies to pay for things like travel expenses and comp cards. As a recent editorial in The New York Times illustrated, average models (not the superstars) often get paid in clothes, work very long hours, and have no workplace protections—an arrangement some former models have compared to indentured servitude. Agencies are eager to recruit teenagers because they don’t know enough to stand up for themselves and negotiate for better.

They’d Rather Waste Than Damage Their “Brands”
Ever wonder what happens to garments that go unsold? They don’t all go to outlet malls—they get destroyed. Every once in a while, a big retailer gets caught destroying garments, or “damaging out” unsold merchandise, leaving people to wonder why they don’t donate the garments to the poor. Well, if the homeless lady at the bus station was wearing Victoria’s Secret sweatpants that she got for free at the shelter, who would pay $50 for them? Maintaining a brand’s image is all about pricing them and marketing them so that the “right” people wear them, projecting the image the brand wants to create. Retailers would rather see clothes burned than given to people who wouldn’t project the right image.

Design Theft is Rampant—and It’s Okay
Fast-fashion retailers knock off designs they see at runway shows, and even designers themselves appropriate design elements from each other. Not to mention all those purses on the sidewalks in Chinatown. But although the industry talks a big line about how knock-offs and counterfeiting hurt their sales and hinder creativity, the truth is that in some ways, designers may actually benefit from both. Knock-offs are marketed to a very different segment of the market than true designer fashions, and they serve to bring appreciation for high fashion to a larger group of consumers, who eventually get tired of owning the knock-off and start wanting the real thing. Counterfeit bags heighten the perceived value of the real ones, suggesting that the reason they were counterfeited in the first place was that they were so desirable and so in-demand.

They Still Rely on Sweatshops
Even if it wasn’t made in China or Bangladesh or Indonesia, there’s a good chance that a garment was still produced under sweatshop conditions. A tag that reads, “Made in Italy” is the gold standard in fashion, suggesting quality craftsmanship and attention to detail. However, the reality is far from the fantasy of an elderly cobbler making shoes by hand. The luxury goods factories in the Italian garment districts are now staffed with tens of thousands of immigrant Chinese laborers, who are paid far less than the Italian minimum wage. Even in the United States, designer Donna Karan was sued by garment workers who labored under sweatshop conditions right in New York City.

capt_noonie · 10-26-2011, 04:14 PM

oops double post

concretegurl · 10-26-2011, 04:26 PM

Yeah USA and Italy both have sweat shops-did yu know we are the world's largest consumer of trafficked people!

That's right! We are also the world's largest consumer of slave labor...

concretegurl · 10-26-2011, 04:40 PM

My daughter's costume was custom so it was not at risk. She's a Vidia fairy from Tinkerbell one of the other mom is making them for all the girls...

The boys however harsh.

Milo initially wanted to be a robot so I ordered one it was ruined.

Then we went to a certain big boxer-shame on me yes I know-anyhow he found this batter operated one that makes him 'all puffy & fat' LOL so we made Marek match him...seriously I did not chose this he did I even tried to talk him into being a character from Peter Pan so we could be a matching family...I was loosing and realized I was not going to bribe the M&M costume out of Milo's little fingers...Dad says" you realize it's Made in the USA and that's all kosher with your Yorkie Talk Made in China Boycott" yeah he's a real smart a$$ sometimes...we bought the candy grabber, Phineas and Ferb book and I forget the other bribery items for Milo anyways...

So the boys are M&M's!!! The shirts next to the costumes are their Halloween pics shirts all pumpkin colored and Made in the USA too-Maisy refuses pumpkin colors and hasn't decided what to wear-ugh TWEENS!!!
Sorry all the fashion talk made me creative so I oil painted one pic during resizing for Yorkie Talk

concretegurl · 10-26-2011, 04:58 PM

I wear Genuine Italian Calf skin leather-only from certain brands though...the meat was used for veil, excess or fertilizer, the intestine for sausage and seine, the hooves for jewelry and some of the bones...

I eat meat.
I'm a carnivore.
I just prefer the animal is treated humanely while alive and being killed for me to consume.
I had better damn well consume all of the animal that was killed or my purposes...
I also prefer organics as I care about the environment, my health and sustainability.

capt_noonie · 10-26-2011, 05:39 PM

I am also a really big believer in trying to use as much as the animal as possible. I actually love eating the parts that most people would think is nasty, such as organ meats.

May I ask what brand of shoes you wear and how did you find out this info?

nancyf007 · 10-26-2011, 06:04 PM

You know what would be a good idea. If retailers would put "Made in the USA racks in all their departments and post a sign. I think they would be very surprised how much of it would sell.
I think it is too hard to go thru labels when you are trying to shop.
It probably wouldn't be to long before they had to expand.

concretegurl · 10-26-2011, 06:05 PM

I have a bunch of various shoe brands my Chanel boots came with a certification certificate stating it.
I noticed not all Chanels do so it's kind of scarey huh?
Italian made Gucci is-read their PR statements.I think Tom Ford has maintained the mantra of resposnsibility in 'craft'smanship'
Chloe used to to be.
Quite a few Italian made brands do because of their dynamic there:traditions, etc
It has more to do with what leather supplier they got them from-the slaughter houses themselves.

ATM I'm wearing some no name brand thongs on my feet so yeah, I honestly haven't bought leather goods in years since child #2 designer good were out...so I'm going off of info from then. I'll check on it and post when I have more...best thing to do is go to the shop you buy it at and get the seasonal handouts label's send to vendors (boutiques).

A few research sites:
What kind of leather does Gucci use?? - PurseForum
Made in Italy | The Iconic Gucci Loafer | A Continuous Lean.

Today, Gucci’s Made In Italy production coupled with a strong social responsibility towards its employees ensures that 100% of its leather goods, shoes and ready to wear are still produced in its Florence workshops, employing over 45,000 people in Italy alone, in addition to Gucci’s own employees. This handcrafted legacy passed down through generations of artisan families, continues to be an immense source of pride for Gucci and has made a huge contribution to its position as a worldwide leader in the luxury business.
Above from:
Gucci - made in italy
Actually friends of mine have toured their facilities in Florence It.

concretegurl · 10-26-2011, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nancyf007

You know what would be a good idea. If retailers would put "Made in the USA racks in all their departments and post a sign. I think they would be very surprised how much of it would sell.
I think it is too hard to go thru labels when you are trying to shop.
It probably wouldn't be to long before they had to expand.

Many have small sections like this. I've heard (on here actually) Walmart does.

I'd like to see a little American Flag sticker next to the tag of the item, and in big box retailers a little American Flag sticker on the shelf label...assuming the American Flag stickers are printed on soy paper ...or okay I'll compromise; they are at least Made in the USA themselves.

I think I need to start a letter writing campaign & include this link in it...

I always read labels when shopping, but I also don't find it that hard to flip something over and read where it is Made in.

concretegurl · 10-26-2011, 06:26 PM

Darn copy/paste...
I however spend awhile shopping...

concretegurl · 10-26-2011, 07:24 PM

Here's Milo & Marek today in their costumes...Milo looks so serious he has been very sick poor guy this time of year every year!

capt_noonie · 10-26-2011, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by concretegurl

I have a bunch of various shoe brands my Chanel boots came with a certification certificate stating it.
I noticed not all Chanels do so it's kind of scarey huh?
Italian made Gucci is-read their PR statements.I think Tom Ford has maintained the mantra of resposnsibility in 'craft'smanship'
Chloe used to to be.
Quite a few Italian made brands do because of their dynamic there:traditions, etc
It has more to do with what leather supplier they got them from-the slaughter houses themselves.

ATM I'm wearing some no name brand thongs on my feet so yeah, I honestly haven't bought leather goods in years since child #2 designer good were out...so I'm going off of info from then. I'll check on it and post when I have more...best thing to do is go to the shop you buy it at and get the seasonal handouts label's send to vendors (boutiques).

A few research sites:
What kind of leather does Gucci use?? - PurseForum
Made in Italy | The Iconic Gucci Loafer | A Continuous Lean.

Today, Gucci’s Made In Italy production coupled with a strong social responsibility towards its employees ensures that 100% of its leather goods, shoes and ready to wear are still produced in its Florence workshops, employing over 45,000 people in Italy alone, in addition to Gucci’s own employees. This handcrafted legacy passed down through generations of artisan families, continues to be an immense source of pride for Gucci and has made a huge contribution to its position as a worldwide leader in the luxury business.
Above from:
Gucci - made in italy
Actually friends of mine have toured their facilities in Florence It.

I wonder where Louis Vuitton stands on this? In regards to the article I posted. LV is one of those companies who damage and throw away their goods that are not up to standard. They do not have outlet stores. Their "damages" that occur in store are available to purchase by their employees only. I wonder how they get their leather.

capt_noonie · 10-26-2011, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by concretegurl

Here's Milo & Marek today in their costumes...Milo looks so serious he has been very sick poor guy this time of year every year!

I actually love how he looks so serious!

10-26-2011, 02:54 PM	#46
concretegurl Between♥Suspensions Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Vaissades Posts: 7,979	Light bulds solved but huh not locally, or inexpensively! Lights of America CFL's have mercury which is harmful for the environment. There are NO CFL light buld manufacturers in the USA because they are so hazardous to the environment in production we BAN them (by default due to EPA regulations) being produced here! How freaking scarey is that! The EPA-doesn't even budge or take a bribe on this one, even with BIG money corporation it is illegal here! __________________ Shan & 8 kids now!

10-26-2011, 02:59 PM	#47
concretegurl Between♥Suspensions Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Vaissades Posts: 7,979	Light bulds solved but huh not locally, or inexpensively! Lights of America CFL's have mercury which is harmful for the environment. There are NO CFL light buld manufacturers in the USA because they are so hazardous to the environment in production we BAN them (by default due to EPA regulations) being produced here! How freaking scarey is that! The EPA-doesn't even budge or take a bribe on this one, even with BIG money corporation it is illegal here! __________________ Shan & 8 kids now!

10-26-2011, 04:13 PM	#48
capt_noonie www.yorkierescue.com Donating Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Las Vegas & Orange County Posts: 17,408	I posted an article from another thread that I thought kind of touches on this subject a bit. Particularly the last paragraph about goods made in US and/or Italy, pertaining to the fashion industry: What the Fashion Industry Doesn’t Want You to Know Most of the fashion industry is built on an illusion of glamour. Even those of us who love the sequined, sartorial facade (And we do most of the time!) have to admit that that there are certain uncomfortable truths about the industry that are anything but beautiful. Here's a small peek at what's behind the couture curtain. They Crave Young Models—but Not Just For Their Looks The reason runway shows are full of Slovenian teenagers isn’t only because clothes look inherently better on younger women. Designers and modeling agencies depend on a steady flow of extremely young girls because they’re the only ones who will work for free, live in crowded apartments, and have their occasional wages docked by their agencies to pay for things like travel expenses and comp cards. As a recent editorial in The New York Times illustrated, average models (not the superstars) often get paid in clothes, work very long hours, and have no workplace protections—an arrangement some former models have compared to indentured servitude. Agencies are eager to recruit teenagers because they don’t know enough to stand up for themselves and negotiate for better. They’d Rather Waste Than Damage Their “Brands” Ever wonder what happens to garments that go unsold? They don’t all go to outlet malls—they get destroyed. Every once in a while, a big retailer gets caught destroying garments, or “damaging out” unsold merchandise, leaving people to wonder why they don’t donate the garments to the poor. Well, if the homeless lady at the bus station was wearing Victoria’s Secret sweatpants that she got for free at the shelter, who would pay $50 for them? Maintaining a brand’s image is all about pricing them and marketing them so that the “right” people wear them, projecting the image the brand wants to create. Retailers would rather see clothes burned than given to people who wouldn’t project the right image. Design Theft is Rampant—and It’s Okay Fast-fashion retailers knock off designs they see at runway shows, and even designers themselves appropriate design elements from each other. Not to mention all those purses on the sidewalks in Chinatown. But although the industry talks a big line about how knock-offs and counterfeiting hurt their sales and hinder creativity, the truth is that in some ways, designers may actually benefit from both. Knock-offs are marketed to a very different segment of the market than true designer fashions, and they serve to bring appreciation for high fashion to a larger group of consumers, who eventually get tired of owning the knock-off and start wanting the real thing. Counterfeit bags heighten the perceived value of the real ones, suggesting that the reason they were counterfeited in the first place was that they were so desirable and so in-demand. They Still Rely on Sweatshops Even if it wasn’t made in China or Bangladesh or Indonesia, there’s a good chance that a garment was still produced under sweatshop conditions. A tag that reads, “Made in Italy” is the gold standard in fashion, suggesting quality craftsmanship and attention to detail. However, the reality is far from the fantasy of an elderly cobbler making shoes by hand. The luxury goods factories in the Italian garment districts are now staffed with tens of thousands of immigrant Chinese laborers, who are paid far less than the Italian minimum wage. Even in the United States, designer Donna Karan was sued by garment workers who labored under sweatshop conditions right in New York City. __________________ The T.U.B. Pack! Toto, Uni, & Bindi RIP Lord Scrappington Montgomery McLimpybottom aka El Lenguo the Handicapped Ninja 10-12-12 Last edited by capt_noonie; 10-26-2011 at 04:17 PM.

10-26-2011, 04:14 PM	#49
capt_noonie www.yorkierescue.com Donating Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Las Vegas & Orange County Posts: 17,408	oops double post __________________ The T.U.B. Pack! Toto, Uni, & Bindi RIP Lord Scrappington Montgomery McLimpybottom aka El Lenguo the Handicapped Ninja 10-12-12

10-26-2011, 04:26 PM	#50
concretegurl Between♥Suspensions Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Vaissades Posts: 7,979	Yeah USA and Italy both have sweat shops-did yu know we are the world's largest consumer of trafficked people! That's right! We are also the world's largest consumer of slave labor... __________________ Shan & 8 kids now!

10-26-2011, 04:58 PM	#52
concretegurl Between♥Suspensions Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Vaissades Posts: 7,979	I wear Genuine Italian Calf skin leather-only from certain brands though...the meat was used for veil, excess or fertilizer, the intestine for sausage and seine, the hooves for jewelry and some of the bones... I eat meat. I'm a carnivore. I just prefer the animal is treated humanely while alive and being killed for me to consume. I had better damn well consume all of the animal that was killed or my purposes... I also prefer organics as I care about the environment, my health and sustainability. __________________ Shan & 8 kids now!

10-26-2011, 05:39 PM	#53
capt_noonie www.yorkierescue.com Donating Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Las Vegas & Orange County Posts: 17,408	I am also a really big believer in trying to use as much as the animal as possible. I actually love eating the parts that most people would think is nasty, such as organ meats. May I ask what brand of shoes you wear and how did you find out this info? __________________ The T.U.B. Pack! Toto, Uni, & Bindi RIP Lord Scrappington Montgomery McLimpybottom aka El Lenguo the Handicapped Ninja 10-12-12

10-26-2011, 06:04 PM	#54
nancyf007 YT Addict Join Date: May 2011 Location: Fort Myers Posts: 339 Blog Entries: 8	You know what would be a good idea. If retailers would put "Made in the USA racks in all their departments and post a sign. I think they would be very surprised how much of it would sell. I think it is too hard to go thru labels when you are trying to shop. It probably wouldn't be to long before they had to expand.

10-26-2011, 06:05 PM	#55
concretegurl Between♥Suspensions Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Vaissades Posts: 7,979	I have a bunch of various shoe brands my Chanel boots came with a certification certificate stating it. I noticed not all Chanels do so it's kind of scarey huh? Italian made Gucci is-read their PR statements.I think Tom Ford has maintained the mantra of resposnsibility in 'craft'smanship' Chloe used to to be. Quite a few Italian made brands do because of their dynamic there:traditions, etc It has more to do with what leather supplier they got them from-the slaughter houses themselves. ATM I'm wearing some no name brand thongs on my feet so yeah, I honestly haven't bought leather goods in years since child #2 designer good were out...so I'm going off of info from then. I'll check on it and post when I have more...best thing to do is go to the shop you buy it at and get the seasonal handouts label's send to vendors (boutiques). A few research sites: What kind of leather does Gucci use?? - PurseForum Made in Italy \| The Iconic Gucci Loafer \| A Continuous Lean. Today, Gucci’s Made In Italy production coupled with a strong social responsibility towards its employees ensures that 100% of its leather goods, shoes and ready to wear are still produced in its Florence workshops, employing over 45,000 people in Italy alone, in addition to Gucci’s own employees. This handcrafted legacy passed down through generations of artisan families, continues to be an immense source of pride for Gucci and has made a huge contribution to its position as a worldwide leader in the luxury business. Above from: Gucci - made in italy Actually friends of mine have toured their facilities in Florence It. __________________ Shan & 8 kids now!

10-26-2011, 06:26 PM	#57
concretegurl Between♥Suspensions Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Vaissades Posts: 7,979	Darn copy/paste... I however spend awhile shopping... __________________ Shan & 8 kids now!