A darling Maltese dropped off at shelter today

[kjcmsw]

Originally Posted by megansmomma

I think you need to go back and read Patti's very first post.

The dog was a PUPPYMILL rescue and if this woman knew that when she adopted her then it was also her responsibly to research this subject. They always come with issues because of the lack of human socialization they received at the hands of greedy millers. and yes I am judging millers and those that breed purely for profit.

As for you quoting my posts I am totally confused. There are plenty of other members that made much more harsh statements than mine.

I was trying to quote the quote you quoted...and all that came up was yours...sorry for that.
Some shelters/et al DO play down issues just to get the dog moved.
Maybe the rescue you're connected with doesn't but many do and that's a reality at others. That's unfair to the dog and unfair to the potential new owner.
Some people trust what the shelter people say...yes, they should know to do research and probably take what the shelter workers say with a grain of salt, but some people judge by what they see...a dog acting differently in such an environment. Underneath that sweet timid dog at the shelter may lie a vicious thing. I know my dogs sometimes act completely different when thrust into a new situation.
Sometimes the shelter people don't know, and how could they truly know the dog's history or how it will react in a different situation.
I did go back and reread the first post...what I got from it was someone took in a rescue dog with issues (were all those issues made known to her...we'll never know, were all those issues even known by the shelter/rescue workers, we'll never know) but what we do know is the dog had issues which appeared to manifest itself greater post the birth of her child. This woman tried to do the right thing by taking in a rescue dog and the woman accepted those issues were greater than she could handle and she chose to find the dog a more suitable home for the good of her family and the good of the dog. Her sin appears to be having tried where so many others wouldn't.

[xoxStephie]

I have to agree with who ever said you cant judge her unless you know her full situation. She does have a child and this dog may need more attention than she can give. Her child does come first before the dog. When I was younger we got a cat. We had cat before this one who got sick and passed away. We ended up getting a full grown cat probaly about a year or so old and by the end of two or three days we had to take him back. I was maybe five or so and my sister was around seven. The cat destroyed my mothers custom drapes which had my mother furious and on top of that me and my sister were afraid of the cat. This cat had belonged to a family who had just had a baby and that was pretty much all we were told. My mother decided after a couple of days that the cat needed to be brought back because the cat's personality didn't fit in with the family and she didn't watpnt her two daughters to be scared of what was supposed to be a family pet. This maltese may have had a similar situation... If it had issues from being a puppy mill rescue then that means that so much more goes into taking care of him. To add a child on top of that is going to add to the stress level and if she couldn't handle it then she made the right decision to bring him to a shelter and not just give him away to someone she barely knows or doesn't know at all. Clearly she tried to keep the dog if she had him since January and it's now April.

[tjdmom]

Please keep us updated on her. I have to believe that she will find the most wonderful home. I do believe that some dogs are better off being dropped off at the shelter than being kept in the homes they are in. I think sometimes because we are all such dog lovers here, we have a hard time understanding how someone else might feel and I've seen so many threads/post with people trying to talk someone into keeping a dog they are not committed to. I think if a dog is not loved and valued, she/he feels that and they are better off having a chance at finding the perfect home. And bless you Patti for helping. I know it can be discouraging sometimes and frustrating but you make a difference even if you don't always feel like you do!

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by kjcmsw

I was trying to quote the quote you quoted...and all that came up was yours...sorry for that.
Some shelters/et al DO play down issues just to get the dog moved.
Maybe the rescue you're connected with doesn't but many do and that's a reality at others. That's unfair to the dog and unfair to the potential new owner.
Some people trust what the shelter people say...yes, they should know to do research and probably take what the shelter workers say with a grain of salt, but some people judge by what they see...a dog acting differently in such an environment. Underneath that sweet timid dog at the shelter may lie a vicious thing. I know my dogs sometimes act completely different when thrust into a new situation.
Sometimes the shelter people don't know, and how could they truly know the dog's history or how it will react in a different situation.
I did go back and reread the first post...what I got from it was someone took in a rescue dog with issues (were all those issues made known to her...we'll never know, were all those issues even known by the shelter/rescue workers, we'll never know) but what we do know is the dog had issues which appeared to manifest itself greater post the birth of her child. This woman tried to do the right thing by taking in a rescue dog and the woman accepted those issues were greater than she could handle and she chose to find the dog a more suitable home for the good of her family and the good of the dog. Her sin appears to be having tried where so many others wouldn't.

I have three rescues and there was a written contract with each adoption. In that agreement it was very clearly stated that if at ANY TIME I was not able or willing to continue ownership that the rescue should be notified and that the dog be surrendered back. It's not just YHR (none of mine are adopted from YHR) and this is a pretty across the board contract. When rescues rehome a dog they make it their responsibly to ensure that dog have a forever home. So above all, when I reread Patti's original post it jumped out at me that this dog should have been returned to the rescue and not taken to a shelter. This is my real rub with this entire situation.

Now let me also add that there are plenty of people that call them selves rescues just to profit. The newest scam is puppymills claiming to be rescue and cleaning out their breeding stock. Not that long ago there was a thread in the Rescue Forum of just this happening and with a little investigating it was discovered what really was going on. This woman was driving up from Missouri with vans full of dogs and puppies (pet store returns) and claiming they were rescues. She would meet people in the parting lot of a gas station or McDonald's and accept money for what these people believed to be rescues. As a matter of fact, one of the people that "rescued" from this woman is more a foster with YHR. She had no idea she was scammed and believed what she was told. It wasn't until she put the pieces together that she realized that legitimate rescue do not meet you in a parking lot with a van full of dogs. She told me that literally there were 50 families lined up taking home their "rescues" many of them sick or deformed and unsellable.

[kjcmsw]

Originally Posted by megansmomma

I have three rescues and there was a written contract with each adoption. In that agreement it was very clearly stated that if at ANY TIME I was not able or willing to continue ownership that the rescue should be notified and that the dog be surrendered back. It's not just YHR (none of mine are adopted from YHR) and this is a pretty across the board contract. When rescues rehome a dog they make it their responsibly to ensure that dog have a forever home. So above all, when I reread Patti's original post it jumped out at me that this dog should have been returned to the rescue and not taken to a shelter. This is my real rub with this entire situation.

Now let me also add that there are plenty of people that call them selves rescues just to profit. The newest scam is puppymills claiming to be rescue and cleaning out their breeding stock. Not that long ago there was a thread in the Rescue Forum of just this happening and with a little investigating it was discovered what really was going on. This woman was driving up from Missouri with vans full of dogs and puppies (pet store returns) and claiming they were rescues. She would meet people in the parting lot of a gas station or McDonald's and accept money for what these people believed to be rescues. As a matter of fact, one of the people that "rescued" from this woman is more a foster with YHR. She had no idea she was scammed and believed what she was told. It wasn't until she put the pieces together that she realized that legitimate rescue do not meet you in a parking lot with a van full of dogs. She told me that literally there were 50 families lined up taking home their "rescues" many of them sick or deformed and unsellable.

Good Lord, that's terrible people would do that. I don't know why I'm surprised as there as so many crappy people out there. Maybe this maltese lady got it from one of 'those' type of scam "rescues". Might explain why she didn't (couldn't) return it to the 'rescue' place. It's issues may have been very extensive and beyond my imagination. Time will tell there.
I think it's a good idea that a legitimate rescue would like the dog to come back to them in the event it didn't work out but I would think that'd be pretty hard to dictate but one I would think people would utilize to return a dog that didn't work out or whose issues were greater than they could handle.
The shelters in my area make someone bringing in an animal pay (if they admit it's their dog rather than one they "found" on the roadside) so I would think if a rescue place would take the dog back that's where they'd go.

[kionini]

Originally Posted by megansmomma

Housetraining and new baby are the by far the leading reason for dogs to be in shelters. People just do not feel they need to make that lifelong commitment.

Yep, that's what I see and hear all the time. I haven't heard or seen a case about 'getting rid' of the pup because of a life or death situation to this day, and I'm no spring-chicken

[kionini]

Originally Posted by TwoforFun

I for one am glad the dog was taken somewhere instead of being with someone that is not willing or is capable of giving him a chance. I bet the dog will be happier with the new owners.

Yeah, I agree, the fur-baby is better off. I do hope the fur-baby finds that loving human

[kionini]

Originally Posted by roseylovestosho

I feel bad for little dogs because I always feel that (most NOT ALL) people pick a small dog because he/she is cute not ever thinking of the hard work you have to put into raising one. Sure they're the first ones to get adopted, but sometimes not by the best families

I believe that too. Sadly, because I've seen it

[kionini]

Originally Posted by kjcmsw

Which was what I was basically saying...good the dog went somewhere - and that the person had the courage to admit they couldn't handle the dog and took it where it might stand a chance of a happier life than they could give it.
Commendable in light of the situation. A lesser person might have just dropped it off by the roadside or ignored and neglected it, which is likely to happen more often if those who do choose to take a dog to a shelter are judged and berated for doing so.

For not throwing the pup out the window in the street or neglected her, I do give her credit, she's not that much of an animal. But applaud her actions, absolutely not. She took a poor abused dog out of a rescue giving the pup hope. Only to return her to uncertainty for whatever reason?

Yeah, let's come up with plenty of excuses for her Maybe the Maltese was eating the newborn, yeah, that could have been it. Or maybe the Maltese was setting fire to the crib, yeah, we don't know how evil that Maltese was and all the rasons that kind woman had to do what she did

I'm not judging her for taking the fur-baby to the shelter, I'm judging her for taking her out in the first place For wasting the chance of the Maltese being adopted by someone who really wanted her and would not 'get rid' of her when it became inconvenient, and putting the poor pup through more hell, as if the first 4 years of her life had been such a picnic.

[Ringo1]

Originally Posted by kionini

For not throwing the pup out the window in the street or neglected her, I do give her credit, she's not that much of an animal. But applaud her actions, absolutely not. She took a poor abused dog out of a rescue giving the pup hope. Only to return her to uncertainty for whatever reason?

Yeah, let's come up with plenty of excuses for her Maybe the Maltese was eating the newborn, yeah, that could have been it. Or maybe the Maltese was setting fire to the crib, yeah, we don't know how evil that Maltese was and all the rasons that kind woman had to do what she did

I'm not judging her for taking the fur-baby to the shelter, I'm judging her for taking her out in the first place For wasting the chance of the Maltese being adopted by someone who really wanted her and would not 'get rid' of her when it became inconvenient, and putting the poor pup through more hell, as if the first 4 years of her life had been such a picnic.

This pretty much sums up how I feel as well.

[Patti]

I don't want this thread to get heated. Everyone has a different viewpoint of what they can handle when it comes to pets. Unfortunately, they realize that after getting one. The maltese just came in as I was leaving so I only got the briefest info. I just wanted to make sure she was not going to be left at the shelter overnight or I would have taken her as I am a registered foster home. I will find out more Wednesday when I go in. I will check to see if we have the info on where she originally came from. I am hoping she has been adopted by then. The shelter I help out at is very strict on who they adopt out to and they are microchipped to the shelter. They do ask for a donation as a relinquishing fee. I am grateful she was turned in and not just dumped as many are. Working at a shelter and seeing week after week pets dropped off for no fault of their own and the confusion and sadness in their eyes I guess I find very few acceptable reasons for giving up a family member. I know their are some situations but there the exception not the rule. JMO

[Patti]

I went to the shelter today and Tinkerbell (maltese) was in the room where I work. She is so sweet. The former owners said they rescued her from a puppy mill 5 months ago but the name was a kennel so they think it was an actual puppy mill. Tinkerbell is very skittish but is coming around quickly. The owners said she was hyper and with a new baby too much too handle. She has been very calm since being at the shelter. She does jump at every little noise. She had free run of the room I was in. She was walking around and stole the little chichauaha that one of the techs brings with her (she can't walk but scoots around) chew toy. I held her on my lap while I was working on the computer for over an hour and she was sweet as can be. She kept kissing me. She is available for adoption tomorrow and one of the other volunteers wants her she just needs to talk her DH in to her. So keep your fingers crossed. We had quite a few sad ones either dumped on the shelter property (a pug with both eyes popped out and horribly infected who is now being adopted after surgery (she is blind now) by the police officer who came to do the humane investigation or left at the vet because they couldn't afford the vet bill. So at least the ones who relinquish to the shelter or at the vets care enough to want the animal safe. The ones that dump sick/injured ones in the middle of the night with no protection are the ones who should be shot. Here's a couple pics of Tinkerbell. She is even cuter in person.

[TammyJM]

What a little doll baby....she's precious!!

[CouversMom]

What a cutie! I'm sure she'll find her forever home soon.