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JeanieK · 11-11-2010, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by shamrocks

I am very happy to see that this filth was taken down. I can not believe the authors views on Pedophilia "To tell you the truth, I don't think it is always that bad for the child, but I do think it is always confining for the adult," said Graves. That is just sick and he needs some help. On Fox News they just said that Amazon might put the book back up.

From that statement, I'm guessing that the author was a molested child at one time, and he didn't find it to be that unpleasant. he was most likely a young teen when it happened and he did not mind it but knew that it was wrong.

It's possible he wrote it to try to come to grips with his own feelings.

Nancy1999 · 11-11-2010, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JeanieK

From that statement, I'm guessing that the author was a molested child at one time, and he didn't find it to be that unpleasant. he was most likely a young teen when it happened and he did not mind it but knew that it was wrong.

It's possible he wrote it to try to come to grips with his own feelings.

He says that he never was molested and he also says that he never has molested anyone. I personally think he wrote it to make money, pure and simple greed.

FlDebra · 11-11-2010, 02:15 PM

Another disgusting incident. I am so tired of such horrible things being allowed in the name of "freedom of speech." So many seem to be more afraid of insulting any faction be it an illegal activity or not, than trompling the rights of millions of decent human beings! If we could only go back to the 50's in so many areas of culture. I know we had some problems back then, but fixing them should not have been such a knee jerk reaction that we are seeing something like this being allowed.

Huge kudos to the hundreds that wrote in immediately to get it stopped. If common decency can't prevail, at least we can still make things happen with the threat of closing our pocketbooks. Even though it is over for now, I am going to add my thoughts and send it to Amazon. I have used them so much over the years, especially at Christmas!! But I don't think I can order presents for my grandkids from a company that thought this was perfectly okay until people threatened not to buy from them. I don't want those kinds of thoughts in my mind when they are opening presents Christmas day!!!

FlDebra · 11-11-2010, 02:27 PM

I just read a few of the posts on the Boycott page on Facebook. It seems there are still several other similar books on Amazon. Since this was the only one complained about and nationally televised, it was the only one they bothered to remove. So, they are not changing policy -- just caving in to the almigthy dollar on this one book.

I got nauseous reading on the Facebook site, and don't want my name on the page at all due to all those posting in support of what is an abhorent act! I'll find another address on Amazon's page to complain to.

I won't be using Amazon again. I think I will try to do a better job of reviewing a company's practices before using them in the future. Who would even think this would be an acceptable act. I guess in my very naive mind, I just thought that sort of thing would be illegal to sell. Promoting child sexual abuse can't be right! I can't believe our laws can allow that. The next time an innocent child has his/her entire life ruined from some deviant's attack and they find any of these books around from Amazon, then they need to make Amazone a co-defendent when they take the abuser to court!!!

JeanieK · 11-11-2010, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Nancy1999

He says that he never was molested and he also says that he never has molested anyone. I personally think he wrote it to make money, pure and simple greed.

I doubt that he would tell the truth if he had been molested, and definitely not if he had molested anyone.. he is trying to deal with guilt.

Nancy1999 · 11-11-2010, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JeanieK

I doubt that he would tell the truth if he had been molested, and definitely not if he had molested anyone.. he is trying to deal with guilt.

If he were dealing with his guilt wouldn't he at least want to donate all his profit to some worthy organization? Sometimes the simplest explanation is the answer, and greed is often a motive. Amazon is taking it off not because of a policy change, but simple greed.

By the way, there is no doubt many of the survivors feel lots of guilt, but much of the guilt is because they did experience pleasure at the time, so he wants to increase their pleasure? Making this a "pleasurable experience" will not reduce the trauma to the survivors.

Reese1 · 11-11-2010, 02:47 PM

I just read there are similar titles on Barnes & Nobles, so it's not just Amazon!

Nancy1999 · 11-11-2010, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Reese1

I just read there are similar titles on Barnes & Nobles, so it's not just Amazon!

Oh no, and now he's getting all this free publicity.

mojo · 11-11-2010, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Reese1

I just read there are similar titles on Barnes & Nobles, so it's not just Amazon!

NO WAY!! Are you kidding me? I don't understand how this could be legal.

And as for the person who posted that the author is getting all this attention - good, I sure hope so! Sure hope law enforcement is keeping a real good eye on him!

Reese1 · 11-11-2010, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mojo

NO WAY!! Are you kidding me? I don't understand how this could be legal.

And as for the person who posted that the author is getting all this attention - good, I sure hope so! Sure hope law enforcement is keeping a real good eye on him!

Yep, read this:

'Pedophile Guide' Author Confident E-Book Will Be Back on Amazon - FoxNews.com

Nancy1999 · 11-11-2010, 04:28 PM

Maybe Yorkietalk needs this as a smilie.

mojo · 11-11-2010, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Reese1

Yep, read this:

'Pedophile Guide' Author Confident E-Book Will Be Back on Amazon - FoxNews.com

Can you imagine having to be the officer who has to review that material? I would have to quit.

manolos mom · 11-11-2010, 04:50 PM

Wow, I was just going to order 3 Kindles from Amazon. Not anymore.

rik20101 · 11-11-2010, 05:42 PM

If I boycotted every store who sold something I hated/disagreed with/ found disturbing....well, I would be making everything I ever needed in life and growing the materials myself. I will still buy from Amazon and I will continue to purchase products on my kindle.

Nancy1999 · 11-11-2010, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by rik20101

If I boycotted every store who sold something I hated/disagreed with/ found disturbing....well, I would be making everything I ever needed in life and growing the materials myself. I will still buy from Amazon and I will continue to purchase products on my kindle.

For me, this is so much worse than just hating or disagreeing or finding something disturbing. For example, some music, I hate or find disturbing, but I'm not going to boycott a store because of it. This speaks to the very essence of who I am, and I believe we need to protect our children in every way we can from these predators who steal their innocence.

By the way, there are other stores that support Amazon, Target for example, I wonder if it would help to inform all these other stores how we feel about this?

11-11-2010, 02:15 PM	#33
FlDebra Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: FL Posts: 7,651	Another disgusting incident. I am so tired of such horrible things being allowed in the name of "freedom of speech." So many seem to be more afraid of insulting any faction be it an illegal activity or not, than trompling the rights of millions of decent human beings! If we could only go back to the 50's in so many areas of culture. I know we had some problems back then, but fixing them should not have been such a knee jerk reaction that we are seeing something like this being allowed. Huge kudos to the hundreds that wrote in immediately to get it stopped. If common decency can't prevail, at least we can still make things happen with the threat of closing our pocketbooks. Even though it is over for now, I am going to add my thoughts and send it to Amazon. I have used them so much over the years, especially at Christmas!! But I don't think I can order presents for my grandkids from a company that thought this was perfectly okay until people threatened not to buy from them. I don't want those kinds of thoughts in my mind when they are opening presents Christmas day!!! __________________ FlDebra and her ABCs Annie, Ben, Candy Promoting Healthy Breeding to the AKC Yorkshire Terrier Standard

11-11-2010, 02:27 PM	#34
FlDebra Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: FL Posts: 7,651	I just read a few of the posts on the Boycott page on Facebook. It seems there are still several other similar books on Amazon. Since this was the only one complained about and nationally televised, it was the only one they bothered to remove. So, they are not changing policy -- just caving in to the almigthy dollar on this one book. I got nauseous reading on the Facebook site, and don't want my name on the page at all due to all those posting in support of what is an abhorent act! I'll find another address on Amazon's page to complain to. I won't be using Amazon again. I think I will try to do a better job of reviewing a company's practices before using them in the future. Who would even think this would be an acceptable act. I guess in my very naive mind, I just thought that sort of thing would be illegal to sell. Promoting child sexual abuse can't be right! I can't believe our laws can allow that. The next time an innocent child has his/her entire life ruined from some deviant's attack and they find any of these books around from Amazon, then they need to make Amazone a co-defendent when they take the abuser to court!!! __________________ FlDebra and her ABCs Annie, Ben, Candy Promoting Healthy Breeding to the AKC Yorkshire Terrier Standard

11-11-2010, 02:47 PM	#37
Reese1 Donating YT 5000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 5,304	I just read there are similar titles on Barnes & Nobles, so it's not just Amazon! __________________ Crosley Wrigley Camden

11-11-2010, 04:50 PM	#43
manolos mom Donating YT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 7,982	Wow, I was just going to order 3 Kindles from Amazon. Not anymore. __________________ Ethical Breeders follow and support http://www.ytca.org/

11-11-2010, 05:42 PM	#44
rik20101 YT Addict Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Georgia Posts: 395	If I boycotted every store who sold something I hated/disagreed with/ found disturbing....well, I would be making everything I ever needed in life and growing the materials myself. I will still buy from Amazon and I will continue to purchase products on my kindle. __________________ Rikki ~ Mommy to two amazing (human) children ~Lucy the great Dane ~ Piper the Maltese/Yorkie mix 3/19/10-6/28/11 gone too soon