Spanking...from a TEACHER!!!

[MeganS]

I do think she was being disrespectful, and probably needed to be punished, but that was NOT the way to do it.

I am in high school now. I have some classes that are out of control and some classes where just a look from the teacher can strike fear into our hearts (LOL). If a teacher demands respect from day one, they can sure as heck get it without needing to spank a student.

Like someone earlier said - teachers are there to TEACH. IMO, if someone doesn't want to be taught, remove them from the classroom. It's not the teacher's job to make sure that all of the kids do everything, it's the teacher's job to provide the material, lessons, and help needed to those who truly want to learn. I feel like my education every day is hindered more by the teachers taking half an hour to deal with snotty kids than it is by the snotty kids themselves. (Honestly, having a teacher say "Stop it or I'm sending you to the office" every 30 seconds is MUCH more annoying than a couple of kids whispering in the back of the room).

I don't believe in spanking at all. I never was and I've turned out just fine. I don't want my future children to respect and obey me because they're afraid of being spanked, I want them to do it because they want to.

[miabellaamoure]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

I think the repurcussions of a spoiled child are much more serious than form a spoiled dog.

Some people DO use food to reward their children, but it tends to make children overweight.

If a spanking at the age of 2, makes them respectul when they are older, it is well worth it.

Ummm...the "treats" were meant as a joke!

However, alternatives to spanking and teaching your children proper behavior can be done without those measures.

What I was getting at...is if we spend as much time on "learning" how to train our dogs...we as parents should do the same for our children vs. the easy way out and spank.

I would rather teach my child why they shouldn't do something vs. instilling fear as a reason...and that does not make a child spoiled by any means.

[2Morkies]

Wow, Where I live the guy would have been fired, thrown in jail and then sued along with the school district.....and the family would have won...millions! That's California though...

[JasmineNoelle]

My hat is off to the brave ones that teach today, because I wouldn't have the job. I do think he could have handled this a different way. It is a shame that some children do not have respect for others nor themselves that they feel they have to act out in public for what ever reason.

[Reese1]

Well that teacher had a huge lapse in judgement IMO.
I think he acted out of frustration & anger. He should have sent her to the principal.
For those who work in schools that allow corporal punishment, are the teachers allowed to do it or is it done by the principal?

I'm not in favor of spankings, I think there are better ways to parent & discipline, again JMO.
Having said that, I think too many parents do not set rules, boundaries or enough and/or any repercussions for actions.
A lot of kids are out of control. They do not respect their parents or any adults and they are the ones in control.
I do feel sorry for teachers these days having to deal with kids like this. Some parents feel it's somehow the responsibility of the school to parent their child and hold the system responsible for the actions of their kids.

I'm always telling my friends, this is why I stick to dogs!!

[manolos mom]

I think kids these days lack respecting their elders. I think spanking should be done at the home and at school by the Principal. I went to Catholic School and you did not mess up around the Nuns. I had one staple my skirt to the desk because I kept getting up.I was a "HYPER" child. Sorry society is out of control and we need to bring spanking back to our school system and homes. I feel sorry for our teachers because they are in the middle. The parents think "little John" can do no wrong. Teachers are under paid and put up with lots of BS and most just dont care anymore. I dont blame them. This article raises lots of questions. Out of my 3 daughters, 2 got spanked. The middle child covered up her tracks very well and followed the rules. Bottom line, I would vote yes for a controlled spanking in our school systems. Lissette

[MaddiesMommie]

Originally Posted by Reese1

Well that teacher had a huge lapse in judgement IMO.
I think he acted out of frustration & anger. He should have sent her to the principal.
For those who work in schools that allow corporal punishment, are the teachers allowed to do it or is it done by the principal?...

In my district, teachers can paddle but there is a procedure to follow. You MUST have a witness that is also a teacher. It is to be done outside of the classroom. And you must fill out a discipline report.

Like I said earlier though, this is more and more discouraged each year. Our school even has a list of students whose parents have said their child is not to be touched by a teacher or any other faculty. They tell their kids this and I have had teachers tell me the kids will tell the teacher, "You can't do anything to me."

Originally Posted by manolos mom

I think kids these days lack respecting their elders. I think spanking should be done at the home and at school by the Principal. I went to Catholic School and you did not mess up around the Nuns. I had one staple my skirt to the desk because I kept getting up.I was a "HYPER" child. Sorry society is out of control and we need to bring spanking back to our school system and homes. I feel sorry for our teachers because they are in the middle. The parents think "little John" can do no wrong. Teachers are under paid and put up with lots of BS and most just dont care anymore. I dont blame them. This article raises lots of questions. Out of my 3 daughters, 2 got spanked. The middle child covered up her tracks very well and followed the rules. Bottom line, I would vote yes for a controlled spanking in our school systems. Lissette

We need more parents like you!

[FL Tink]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

Pretty poor judgement, and it should never ave happened. However the girl did need to be disciplined but she should have been sent to the principal. it sounds to me like she was deliberately being disrespectful.

There is just way too much disrespect anymore, to parents, teachers, police officers..........

JMO but I think a little more spanking needs to be done at home.

I got it at home and at school (once) I turned out juuuuuust fine.
My parents never tried to be my "friend" . They were my parent. We had a great relationship and I have great manners. Maybe its a southern thing.. and perhaps if I had children I would reconsider my stand.. but seriously....I agree with a little hiney slappin at home to get their attention!!!

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama

I live in a district that allows corporal punishment. I have mixed feelings about it. On the one hand, I hate the thought of someone paddling my kids. On the other, I've been in the classrooms. The fact that it isn't used everyday shows some remarkable restraint on the part of the teachers, IMO.

I just don't remember EVER being allowed to behave in school the way some of these kids do.

I think kids who are disciplined at home will not need the teacher to spank them. They already know that they had better listen to the teacher. It's those kids that are allowed to be mouthy, disrespectful, and disobedient at home, that will do it in school also.

I believe that kids really do want clear boundries set for them. It is easier, they don't have to figure it out for themselves.

The more time that a teacher has to spend on disruptive children, the less time they have to teach. And every disruption, causes loss of focus for the rest of the class.

I think it is a HUGE problem in our educational system, and one of the reasons we have fallen behind other countries.

I have a friend that drove school bus, and he said there was no discipline or respect on the bus. The driver cannot control the kids and drive the bus at the same time, and there were no consequences for misbehavior on the bus. If the kids start their day this way, it carries over to the classroom.

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by Reese1

Well that teacher had a huge lapse in judgement IMO.
I think he acted out of frustration & anger. He should have sent her to the principal.
For those who work in schools that allow corporal punishment, are the teachers allowed to do it or is it done by the principal?

I'm not in favor of spankings, I think there are better ways to parent & discipline, again JMO.
Having said that, I think too many parents do not set rules, boundaries or enough and/or any repercussions for actions.
A lot of kids are out of control. They do not respect their parents or any adults and they are the ones in control.
I do feel sorry for teachers these days having to deal with kids like this. Some parents feel it's somehow the responsibility of the school to parent their child and hold the system responsible for the actions of their kids.

I'm always telling my friends, this is why I stick to dogs!!

Well first of all, that child was WAY too old to spank. Spanking beyond the age of 6 or 7 is not necessary, by that age they are old enough to have privledges taken away or have detention, extra assignments or suspension.

An adult male putting his hands on a teenage girls bottom is just plain stupid.

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by miabellaamoure

Ummm...the "treats" were meant as a joke!

However, alternatives to spanking and teaching your children proper behavior can be done without those measures.

What I was getting at...is if we spend as much time on "learning" how to train our dogs...we as parents should do the same for our children vs. the easy way out and spank.

I would rather teach my child why they shouldn't do something vs. instilling fear as a reason...and that does not make a child spoiled by any means.

I knew that you were not serious about the treats, but seriously, it is done. And that brings about another set of problems.

Some kids do gow ujp thinking that everytime the do the right thing, that they should be rewarded. They never learned that doing the right thing, has it's own rewards.

[Reese1]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

Well first of all, that child was WAY too old to spank. Spanking beyond the age of 6 or 7 is not necessary, by that age they are old enough to have privledges taken away or have detention, extra assignments or suspension.

An adult male putting his hands on a teenage girls bottom is just plain stupid.

I agree with you. I think that teacher acted out of anger or was coming from some other place. It was extremely stupid in that case.
I also agree, when kids are old enough to know right from wrong & can reason, there are a lot of options parents have.
I think a lot of parents have gone to the opposite end of the spectrum in raising their kids. They do tried too hard to be their friend at an early age and do not set enough rules and boundaries.
Kids may not know that they want and need the limits, but they do and parents are doing them an injustice by not setting them.
I also think one of the worst mistakes any parent can make is covering up for their child when they know they have done wrong or worse, never thinking their child could do any wrong!

[Reese1]

Originally Posted by MaddiesMommie

In my district, teachers can paddle but there is a procedure to follow. You MUST have a witness that is also a teacher. It is to be done outside of the classroom. And you must fill out a discipline report.

Like I said earlier though, this is more and more discouraged each year. Our school even has a list of students whose parents have said their child is not to be touched by a teacher or any other faculty. They tell their kids this and I have had teachers tell me the kids will tell the teacher, "You can't do anything to me."

We need more parents like you!

Interesting. The kids who make those kind of comments to teachers or any adults, clearly have parents who are not parenting.

[Princes mom]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

I think kids who are disciplined at home will not need the teacher to spank them. They already know that they had better listen to the teacher. It's those kids that are allowed to be mouthy, disrespectful, and disobedient at home, that will do it in school also.

I believe that kids really do want clear boundries set for them. It is easier, they don't have to figure it out for themselves.

The more time that a teacher has to spend on disruptive children, the less time they have to teach. And every disruption, causes loss of focus for the rest of the class.
I think it is a HUGE problem in our educational system, and one of the reasons we have fallen behind other countries.

I have a friend that drove school bus, and he said there was no discipline or respect on the bus. The driver cannot control the kids and drive the bus at the same time, and there were no consequences for misbehavior on the bus. If the kids start their day this way, it carries over to the classroom.

Unfortunatly, in many cases, the parents are worse than the kids!!

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by Reese1

I agree with you. I think that teacher acted out of anger or was coming from some other place. It was extremely stupid in that case.
I also agree, when kids are old enough to know right from wrong & can reason, there are a lot of options parents have.
I think a lot of parents have gone to the opposite end of the spectrum in raising their kids. They do tried too hard to be their friend at an early age and do not set enough rules and boundaries.
Kids may not know that they want and need the limits, but they do and parents are doing them an injustice by not setting them.
I also think one of the worst mistakes any parent can make is covering up for their child when they know they have done wrong or worse, never thinking their child could do any wrong!

I compare, the parent child relationship to moving to another planet. You can have a guide that is your friend and never teaches you anything or you can have one that is tough and makes you learn. At the end of the training period, which guide would you have appreciated more.