Bummed out

[Connie]

I am heading out of town and will address this when I get back, either late tonight or tomorrow.

[QuickSilver]

Unfortunately, I can see both sides on this, and I can see why both parties are upset. It does seem to me to be a misunderstanding that's built up over time, and because money and reputations are involved, it's elevated the stakes a lot.

The chances of this may be slim, but I do hope that if these two women were friends, perhaps they can be again. From what I can see, I believe that both people feel that they acted appropriately. If the friendship means enough, perhaps they can work to understand why the other acted as they did.

[Baby Blessing]

Wasn't going to post back but get updates in our email here with YT on posts that I post too.
I was listening to this Beautiful song and it really touched my heart want to share it with each and everyone that has posted here.

I hope that things settle down here for Connie and also for you Cory, life is to dang short and too many unknowns that happen each and every day in our lives, we love Connie dearly and Cory believe me Connie didn't start this thread to hurt you, nor could you ever take away any of her customers. Yes she has worked really hard and she deserves the credit and to be recongnized in helping you to get started in making doggie attire. Believe me I know Connie and she wouldn't begrudge you in doing so, she is not that way. I think a lot of things have been said on this thread that is best put aside.

Cory your posts to us have always been uplifting and I appreciate you for them and the kindness you shown to Jack and Myself. However, I do believe it was Connie that encouraged you to sew and learn, and she did really go all out to help you, you surely do owe her a thank you for that.

I hope this thread doesn't turn into the direction it is headed, please stop and think everyone is it worth the distasteful words being said with different ones.

Someone posted to me on our profile page it wouldn't come up and so I went into You Tube to listen to it, it meant so much to me and I thank the person for posting on our profile page, I think it came when I needed it.

Life is so discourageing as it is, so many heart aches in different ones lives, like Dear Janie going through this horrible Chemo, my Jack living daily with the injury he had last year and then it just makes me stop and think, and count our many, many blessings.

I love you dearly Connie and hope this all passes by quickly you definately don't need any stress on your self either.

Hugs, Patti and Jack and Girls.

Beautiful song here:

YouTube - My Wish By Rascal Flatts =]

[chattiesmom]

Originally Posted by Yorkieblessed

Laurie, look at Cory dresses they are a harness with a skirt sewed on, like all the other dresses, , What are so original about Connies, nothing but she always used the same material for her bows... this has gotten to to be freaking ridiculous people think if they make something it is there pattern. Each dressmaker puts there OWN little touches on there clothes that makes them unique,original .NO!
Here boths sides, I think this is a case of someone feeling insecure,plain and simple.
Cory is one of the sweetest person I have ever met on the forums,listen to her side.You remember that email that was sent to me long ago by accident? That showed someones true colors if you ask me.
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Actually, what you are saying isn't entirely correct. Many of us take a tremendous amount of pride in our original designs and start with a piece of plain white paper and a pencil and design our own patterns cut out and sew, tweak them until they are right and then go through the rigorous process of sizing them. Yes they may be similar to other dog dress/harness patterns but they are NOT the same. Anyone who knows clothes and sewing can see many subtle differences in style just as most people could differentiate between a LV designer dress and an off the rack Walmart dress.

[PANAMA69]

Hi Cory, let me tell you that I also glad that you came and posted your side of the story, I didn't now who the person was, then I saw it was, you, and I had a hard time believing that you will do, a well plan premeditated plan like this, but hey, I have been burn before for trusting people, I just don't think that was your primary motivation, to be honest, I can see the part or somenthing that start as a hobby can turn into a business, the only vendors that I purchased "clothes" have been from Des, ChleBella, and Jodi, I can't remember who else sorry. I have look in their websites and they all have cute clothes the dresses basically look all the same except for few designs, to be honest the only one that I can tell apart is Des-gofetch, and YorkieGeorge, yt vendors, but since I have three now, after awhile, it get kind of expensive buying three, so I went to waltmart and got me some dog patterns, it was so hard hubby had to help me lol. It get easy after you practice and practice, still haven't master the tape measurement, that well, but you know what? with $4.00 dollar the yard I can make my girls dresses, so I save a ton of money, I try to make it unique, but there so many ways you can make a dog dress. When I see a popular fabric I buy it, they are in the store for sell. I have people asking me to make them, and sell them, but I don't think, I'm good enough.
I also make bows for my girls and I have giving out to people, free, since a bow is a bow and I don't have to worry about fitting right.
I do think is wrong if someone, by a dress or harness etc, and rip it a apart and copy the particular design with a premeditated plan, of selling it or making a bussiness out of it. That motivation is just wrong in so many levels.
I'm a little confused though, because Cory, apparently is not only Connie but is also Yodi too,and don't remember who else, I thought that you two went to the meetup in L.A. Jodi, why not talk there face to face? about how you feel and said hey I think you coping my desings, excuseme it you guys did already. I just a little confused. I also thought you guys were friends.
Cory, Also Connie said that she received some clothes from you for free, but it look like Yodi's work, I'm sorry but if I think that, I would not put the dog clothes and send a picture either if I think you are going to put it in the web-site or not.
when you take a picture and send it, to a person or a vendor, who selling the product, I think is a kind of compliment, is like hey look how my girls look on your clothes/products what ever it is, jmho

You all vendors do a amazing job, and there is plenty of people to continue your business. Like Yen/yorkiepuppie said a little competition is good.
I hope, I don't hurt and loose friends for posting this, I want to do it long time ago, when this happen with other two vendors, please don't hate me. This is somenthing that I have in my heart for so long time, Greta
PS: QuickSilver love, love your post. I do hope they work this out too

[Rudys Mom]

Cory Thanks for telling your side of the situation. I do agree with Patti (Babyblessing) that things like this make us stop & think, and count our many blessings.

Cory I count you as one of my many Blessings. You are a kind, considerate dear friend of mine and I'm sorry you are having to go thru this. I know how much it is hurting you. My personal opinion is, I think this should never have been brought into a public forum. It should have been just between the parties involved. I don't know what can be accomplished by airing something like this for everyone else to hear.

I agree with Yorkieblessed too when she said "the dresses on all the websites look very similar". That is so true. How much can you deviate from any other doggie dress.

Janie I agree with you that "the friendships I have made along the way here & on other Yorkie forums have been of everlasting joy to me." You dear Janie are a Blessing & everlasting joy to me.

Big Hugs to you from me Cory.

[yorkiepuppie]

cory, i am very happy that you decided to speak up. i think communication is very important and we should always speak up to clarify things and defend ourselves.

[kalina82]

a lot of people are saying they cannot tell the difference between the clothes they buy from different designers. I have a bunch of clothes made from different people and I can tell the difference just by looking at them. I have clothes from Des, Connie, Jodie, Shana, Jodi, Misty, and probably some others. each is clearly different in some way to me, some so different that they don't even resemble the others. So when someone copies a design I find it easy to see.

[Yorkieblessed]

Yes, I agree that you can tell a difference if you are familar with different ones, however in this case I dont see Cory dresses to be a duplicate of Connies. Alot of people make fabric bows, I for one do,MOST start from a simple vest and go from there,
Cory dresses appear to be alot more gathered /fuller than Connies.

[LuvmyYorkies2]

Originally Posted by yorkiepuppie

cory, i am very happy that you decided to speak up. i think communication is very important and we should always speak up to clarify things and defend ourselves.

I agree with this...I also agree with Quicksilver, Rudy's Mom, Patti and Greta in hoping these 2 can have dialogue again, as they obviously have done in the past. Whether you end by liking with the person says or not, you should start there. If at the end, you still feel the same, disowning them as a friend or whatever, I can see at that time, going elsewhere for support or to vent.

If one of my good friends did something I found hurtful, backstabbing, etc., I would let that person know first, unless of course, I never really considered her a friend to begin with.

I respect both of you ladies & maybe after cooling down a bit, this can be talked about between the two of you...as friends. Sorry both of you are hurting.

[PANAMA69]

Connie, I also think that you started this thread because you are truly hurt, and seeking comfort, I don't think you post it for sales or anything like that you are a very sweet lady, only you and Cory knows how things went down, I will continue to pray for you both, because I like you both and hope you can mend things with time. I always admire how you treat people and how you are. I think this will be my last post on your thread, you vent, you let things out, Cory came said the side of her history and don't see the point to keep this thread open, before it turn to somenthing ugly then El Jefe (admin) or the moderator have to close it, hope that doesn't happen.Mucho Amor (lot of love) to both of you, Greta.
PS: Your Clothes are muy bonitas, beautiful and so the models (your babies)
Hasta la vista Thread!!

[Pettysmith]

Originally Posted by cory

I am making a one time statement here from my standpoint and have not commented prior to this because I’ve been devastated emotionally and very, very hurt by what Connie has done here posting this not on one but four public forums including facebook instead of speaking to me directly. I have not been able to stop crying for days and my husband who read Connie’s email to me was in disbelief that anyone could be this cruel. He has seen how many hours I’ve spent on sewing, making my own patterns, and taking lessons throughout last year.

This is what happened from my eyes. It was last summer that Connie and I were talking and I mentioned about having a sewing a machine and wanting to learn to sew for my girls. Initially I did not even know if I’d be able to sew let alone like sewing. I thought this was a good hobby to take up and discussed this with Connie. Connie told me that she had mailed her pattern and instructions to another friend Janie who will attest to that I’m sure. Connie said she wanted to send me hers, I did not ask for this nor did I steal it as Connie has implied. I did not even get to sewing until the fall when I decided to start sewing lessons. I continued to take sewing lessons all through the fall and now have been taking four sessions of spring classes to do with serging and embroidery. It’s true, Connie did give me simple instructions on making a dog dress but I have not used her pattern and had shredded this information away long ago. I told Connie that I wasn’t using her pattern months ago and that others had started to ask me to sew for them.

There was another good friend who knew about my interest in sewing too and she was so kind to buy for me a bunch of dog patterns out east because they had a great sale on them. I purchased these from her and have been using these as well in things I’ve been making. I’m sure that this member would comment and tell others that this is the truth.

This wasn’t some pre-medicated plan that I had to sew for others. I was sewing for my own girls but others kept asking me to make things for them so it just happened as I continued to improve with sewing. I learned different ways to sew at my lessons and purchased a gathering foot. My method of sewing is not even close to Connie’s instructions and I was allowed to bring various dog patterns to classes where my instructor helped me. One class was strictly on adjusting patterns. Connie said that classes can’t teach you to make “doggy dresses”. I would have to disagree with this because now from what I’ve learned, sewing is sewing. You learn to cut out material, types of material, reading patterns, sewing techniques and finishing off the inside. Mostly I use my serger for finishing off the inside and when I bought mine Connie wanted to learn the serger too but had too much trouble with threading it and returned it to the store. Connie also told me that she has trouble following store bought patterns but I’ve been able to do this with the help of my sewing lessons. I purchased a book on bowmaking online and mailed a copy of this recently out to Connie when I returned from the states. I was happy to do this and to share this information with her. I’m really not a horrible monster like Connie is making me out to be.

I even told Connie about the different patterns that I had purchased and was using from Kwik Sew. Connie asked me for the pattern numbers and I gave these to her and was happy to do so. It’s true that Connie told me about where she gets her online Velcro and D-rings and I thanked her for doing so. It was just in the course of a conversation and there are numerous other places to get Velcro. It was like two friends having a discussion, and that’s it. I’ve purchased the same velcro at our local Fabricland and found it to be the same quality as the one that’s online. Many other people know about this site and have mentioned it to me too. Connie told me about her packaging that’s true from Clearbags.com. Anyone can purchase from this online company. I purchased many of the oversized bags so that I could poke holes and store my girl’s clothes in their closet on hangers to keep them relatively dust free. I don’t feel these bags are unique to Connie because anything I’ve ever bought from anyone has been in similar type bags. If anyone asked me about these bags I’d think it was no big deal and gladly give them the information on them.

Although I had initially only thought that I’d be sewing for my girls others on the sites kept encouraging me and asking me to open a website. Maggie and Lindi’s breeder from Canada asked me as well. All the while, I posted pictures of things I made and told Connie exactly what I was making for other people. This was not Connie’s pattern but my own pattern that I had worked with. I am not saying I’m a designer or claim to be. I’m still learning to sew and will continue to take lessons and improve on my current skills. When I say custom clothes on my website, all I’m saying is that the clothes are made to order based on dogs measurements. In otherwords, they are not ready made in specific sizes.

Everyone kept asking me for pictures and it was getting time consuming sending these so I thought about it and decided it would be better to open the website. The day I made the website up I told Connie right away and sent her the link. She said she looked at it and it looked fine. I certainly did not keep any of this a secret from her. I said I wasn’t going to advertise and I’m really not doing this on a big scale when all I’ve asked for is comments on things I’ve made.

We lived in the US last winter and I went to Joanne’s many, many times and when I’d see materials that I liked I just bought them. The Tutti Fruiti material was at the front of the store and on sale for weeks. I would have seen it and liked whether Connie mentioned this to me or not. I wasn’t aware that there was a paton on materials and if one person had it another wasn’t allowed to purchase it. I had not even looked at Connie’s materials and certainly did not purposely buy certain material patterns simply because she had them.

I still consider this a hobby and do not even care about how many orders I get. It was the farthest thing from my mind to steal away Connie’s customers. I’m simply just enjoying sewing. My prices are listed very reasonably and I’m not even charging for my time and would only like to get back a little of what I’ve paid to put into this hobby. I’ve also been a member on here for some time and spoke to the admin and another member who suggested that I start that thread to get an opinion on my website.

Connie said that this had nothing to do with her business but I beg to differ. She was fine with everything until I started that one thread showing people my website here on YT. These are two direct quotes from her email to me, “I was surprised to see a post by you in YT the other day where you have your website in your signature and had your website put on the store list. I have told you many times that I get good business on YT and that is why I stay there.” “You have been to many meet ups and met people personally, so I know that those people will order from you, rather than myself. I have never worried about competition before...not until now.”
In my opinion, it is not uncommon for people’s goals in life change as time goes on and it crazy to even suggest that I had a premeditated plan from early last summer for this to happen or for my love of sewing and these requests from others to evolve as it has.

I feel that Connie has done this to ruin my reputation and try to close up my website because she is afraid of loosing business. For me, this is certainly not a competition and I had no intention of stealing Connie’s customers as she claims. I told her I would be away this summer and next winter and only want to sew a little for some people if they’d like me to. Of course I want people to see my website and give me their opinion on things I’ve made and how the website looks. This is because I’m enjoying it and do not even care if I get back half of what I’ve put into this. In fact, I’ve been worried and hoping that I wouldn’t get too many requests because I don’t intend to be sewing for hours and hours each and every day like Connie says she does.
People that know me know that I’m not the horrible monster that Connie is making me out to be. Everything I’ve said here is spoken from the heart. I’m sorry but I really did consider Connie my friend but now after all of this, I have lost every ounce of respect for her in how she has handled this entire situation and blown it out of context with the ultimate goal of hurting me.

Hugs from me to you Cory.

[Connie]

I could sit here all night and answer to the statements that Cory made, but I feel I don't need to defend myself. I stand by my prior statements and would not have posted this thread at all, if I did not feel totally stressed out and betrayed. Like I told Cory, the straw that broke the camel's back was when I saw that she had the exact same prices as me...even down to the hair bows.

[Yorkieblessed]

Competitive pricing is good business practice, would you rather she priced lower than yours?

Originally Posted by Connie

I could sit here all night and answer to the statements that Cory made, but I feel I don't need to defend myself. I stand by my prior statements and would not have posted this thread at all, if I did not feel totally stressed out and betrayed. Like I told Cory, the straw that broke the camel's back was when I saw that she had the exact same prices as me...even down to the hair bows.

[spiritwings1202]

This is really sad!!
Connie comes on here to express her hurt and there are people that are trying to turn it around as if this Friend was the victim

All I can say is PLEASE........it makes me sick when someone betrays a person by lying and using a persons compassion and friendship and generosity.
I think people are forgetting the facts.......
Connie..trusted a friends word that she was only going to make clothes for her dogs
So Connie being the generous person........helped a friend with sewing techniques and even her own pattern that she has perfected over the years
Her Friend.......took that and decided to use it for her benefit even if it meant betraying a friends kindness
Connie's website shows many different prints.......her friend even uses some of those prints on her page!!
If you are a friend to someone first you would want to be honest!!
NOT DECIEVE.............You would say.............

I want to sell dresses for dogs can you help me or but now the friend started making dresses and realized that she wanted to start her own site...............
Maybe being a true friend you would go to Connie and say I know that you have helped me and shared your secrets and patterns would you mind if I started my own website........and would you mind if I used the same prints!~!!
That is how it should of happened!!
Her so called friend...........in my opinion is just trying to take the focus off of what she did and point the finger at Connie........Connie is not to Blame for her kindness..She was just expressing in her thread how hurt she was.

Maturity......is when we stop taking our finger and pointing it at everyone else and turn it around on ourself!!~ my Dad says that......... and you know what it is so true...Maybe this so called FRIEND needs to ask herself what could she of done to avoid this and accept the fact that she hurt Connie by her betrayal....

lies+hurt+betrayal+deceit=a broken relationship
To me a relationship is far more important than material things