Pit Bull haters are not IN-sensitive!

[shodanusmc]

I have been bitten by quite a few dogs just running or walking. As a small kid, I was bit by the neighbors Mutt, and a Beagal. In the Marine Corps living on base in Officer Housing I was bit by a Chow and a English Setter just running in the neighborhood. Several years back a small Rat Terrier bit me. Walking the neigborhood now there are a few Goldens that would bit but are chained.

I beleive a lot is the breeding and the owners. Pits were breed to be dog agressive, but NOT Human Agressive. If they ever bit their owner in the old days, the owner would put them down. Most love humans and would never bit, that is why they are not good at Personal Protection and watch dogss. They would welcome the burgler and show him the good stuff. They are not for everyone, as mmost Mastiff's are not either. The Cane Corso takes a owner willing to socialize, socialize, socialize, and train of you will have a 130 pound liability. But they are great with immediate family. Mine is great with everyone, but out eat they are now gaining the reputation as the "Pit Bull Killer" and BYB's will eventually ruin the breed.

Most pits and great, a few are bad, but usually it from how it was raised, and the breeding.

I would own a quality Pit anyday. I have seen a few bad ones, but mostly good ones. Why do some Yorkies try to bit and some do not? Sure, they can not so a much famage like a Large Breed cane, but they sure try. WHat were Yorkies originally bread for? Going after rats and mice in tunnels. That takes courage and tenacity, and the ability to tear something apart.

I do agree that all dogs should be on a leash and not running loose. Why in NY there is a pack of ATTACK beagels running loose that will actually kill a person.

[red98vett]

Originally Posted by ARCHIE

I have never been bite by a pit bull but I do fear them. Maybe little dogs
bite more often but they bite, they do not tear you apart! That's the difference.
I think anyone wanting to own one should go through some sort of training
first to evaluate them to see if they have the qualifications that it takes
to train them. Look up any shelter, pound etc and you will see there are
more pit bulls in them than even mixed breeds. There has to be a reason
for this. Normal people can not handle them. If you breed them you know
them and how to handle them but for the average person this breed should
should not be taken lightly. They can be dangerous. It's a know fact.
Some counties do not allow them in. If your caught you get fined and
they take the dog or you have to re-home it out of the county. I know Fla.
is one state that has counties in it that will not allow them in. I know there
are good and responsible owners but that does not make this breed trustworthy
IMO. I feel sorry for them because of the lablel that has been attached to them
but rightfully so.
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you said what I wanted to say - I'm scared of them too....

I'm careful of ALL dogs when walking my girls - I may be overprotective but have read too many sad stories about small breeds being attacked so I pick mine up all the time when I see any dog.....even small breeds - I introduce my girls VERY slowly and hold them on their leash up against me in case the other dog wants a bite out of them..

I know people always blame the breeders and owners of agressive dogs but in reality - we never really know what triggers them to attack other dogs....sometimes I feel it's just instinct but then I'm no expert that's for sure

[shodanusmc]

I would never own a Pit with another animal. They are animal agressive, most, not all, but the ones that are not, are not standard to the breed. It is hard, if not impossible to train them not to be, but most, the majority, vast majority love people. Would I have one with the Yorkie? No way. Our Yorkie is actually the Alpha over the Cane Corso....she bits him, and he go's to the corner and sits. That would bring out the fight instinct in the Pit. If I did not have another dog, I would consider a quality bred pit as they are great companions, can hike, run, great at Agility, and clowns. Any dog can bit!

[BamaFan121s]

* I believe that the overall behavior of any dog, any breed is a result of breeding, socialization and how the dog is trained and controlled by the owner.

* Any dog can lash out in a random act of aggression, regardless to how they are trained. We can only understand so much that goes on in the mind of our pets, and we never know when something is going to startle them, catch them off guard, hurt them unexpectedly and cause them to react negatively.

* It does not surprise me at all that some of the breeds on the list of most dangerous are not the ones you'd expect. It was a black lab that attacked my daughter. The workers at the hospital told us that the majority of the dog related injuries they treated were from labs, which I did not expect, but know now.

* I don't really care one way or the other if someone expressed their dislike over Pits, or any other breed for that matter. However, generally speaking when someone posts a thread looking for support because their 6 year old child was just attacked...that is NOT the place to start a debate about ANYTHING. For crying out loud, in a case like that bite our tongue and take your disagreements and opinions elsewhere. Allow people to read comments of support and comfort that they desperately need instead of having to weed through petty bickering.

[Too many dogs]

Originally Posted by BaxtersMommy

I am tired of YT members finding anywhere necessary to stir the pot. Pretty sure if you were hurt by this breed you would not be a fan of the breed.

Let me just say it hacks me off that you would say we are insensitive. Nothing was wrong with people showing frustration with Pit Bulls. When IN FACT everyone offered their concern and prayers FIRST!

I even started a thread about a neighbors Pit and how he is always loose and he came towards my husband. I believe, they can not be trusted. You can cuddle your Pit Bull all day long, but dont expect me and others to like them.

I have seen first hand the damage of a Pit, I know someone who is missing part of their hand! I am a full time Pet Sitter who has TRIED to work with the breed. I dont believe there is a more kind Pet Sitter in my area who has tried MORE than me. I made the decision to no longer try to work with them because they are aggressive.

Do your homework, the majority of deaths by dog attacks is by a Pit and Rott. I also know the majority of bites are by small dogs. I know you say, Pits can also can be sweet dogs, I have heard you say it. BUT, I still dont trust them. So, keep them on a leash and in their own back yard. They have no right running free.

I honestly pray, I honestly care, and I honestly do no like Pit Bulls. Don't insinuate my opinion for the breed is lack of sensitivity on my part. Very rude!

i agree 100% with you. My mentally handicapped son lives in a supported living home with two other special needs guys. Recently, I drove up to see him for a visit. I parked my car and got out. IMMEDIATELY, I was surrounded by four pit bulls. They all came over to greet me. I stood still and finally the owner called them off. Can you imagine what would have happened if one of those handicapped people had been out?

[Bianca]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

* I believe that the overall behavior of any dog, any breed is a result of breeding, socialization and how the dog is trained and controlled by the owner.

* Any dog can lash out in a random act of aggression, regardless to how they are trained. We can only understand so much that goes on in the mind of our pets, and we never know when something is going to startle them, catch them off guard, hurt them unexpectedly and cause them to react negatively.

* It does not surprise me at all that some of the breeds on the list of most dangerous are not the ones you'd expect. It was a black lab that attacked my daughter. The workers at the hospital told us that the majority of the dog related injuries they treated were from labs, which I did not expect, but know now.

* I don't really care one way or the other if someone expressed their dislike over Pits, or any other breed for that matter. However, generally speaking when someone posts a thread looking for support because their 6 year old child was just attacked...that is NOT the place to start a debate about ANYTHING. For crying out loud, in a case like that bite our tongue and take your disagreements and opinions elsewhere. Allow people to read comments of support and comfort that they desperately need instead of having to weed through petty bickering.

Your absolutely 100% right and I apologize for my post. I should have ignored the comments and not said I did not think it was right to post an opinion. I contributed to that thread and I feel awful

[megansmomma]

[QUOTE]* I don't really care one way or the other if someone expressed their dislike over Pits, or any other breed for that matter. However, generally speaking when someone posts a thread looking for support because their 6 year old child was just attacked...that is NOT the place to start a debate about ANYTHING. For crying out loud, in a case like that bite our tongue and take your disagreements and opinions elsewhere. Allow people to read comments of support and comfort that they desperately need instead of having to weed through petty bickering./QUOTE]




I believe it was her adult son and his 6 month old Lab puppy.


All that I can say about this entire thing is that arguing for or against Pitbulls should have NEVER been done on a thread that was asking for support. An entirely new low for YorkieTalk was my only thought when I saw the thread this morning. When one of the members here is rushing to her son's side after this horrible incident and asking for our support the response from some was to bicker. Why couldn't it have been about loveshay and her asking for support? If I knew where to find loveshay I would get into my car right now give her a great big hug apologies to her for this unbelievably horrible behavior when all she was looking for was a little support until her husband was able to get home from work. I can't even believe that someone posted to her thread with a comment about how she needed not to be on the computer and be tending to her emergency! She clearly said that she was waiting for her husband to get home so they could leave. WOW!

I've been checking the paper watching the news to see if there is any mention of any dog attack in the past day and there has none. Probably overshadowed by the 40 gang shooting in the past 40 hours in the city of Chicago.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by megansmomma

I believe it was her adult son and his 6 month old Lab puppy.

Ah, so you are right...I misread and thought her son was 6. (In any case though...)

[Yorkiedaze]

Originally Posted by red98vett

very interesting and agreed that small dogs biting aren't news worthy but happens all the time....I'm shocked goldens are now considered agressive

Yes, I just saw this on TV yesterday and could hardly believe it!!

[shodanusmc]

Goldens were especially over bread after the "Bud" movies. THey used to be great. We had the best one for 14 years. Now, I would not own one. Anytime there are movies, dogs become the flavor of the year. 102 Delmations caused a lot of BYB for the money. Look at all of the Taco Bell Dogs now...they are actually flying them out of CA to find homes for them in other states. I hope they never make a Yorkie Movie!

[shodanusmc]

<<<<<<I can't even believe that someone posted to her thread with a comment about how she needed not to be on the computer and be tending to her emergency! She clearly said that she was waiting for her husband to get home so they could leave>>>>>

That was me that said that, and I am sticking to it. Waiting, trying to get a ticket, etc, the last thing I would think of is that I have to get on the Forum and post a message. But that is just me, and others are free to do what they want. My wife would not have waited for me, she would have been gone, walking if she had to. Maybe if you actually lost a kid in an accident you would realize that. Then again, maybe not. I hope her son and the dog recover completely.

[LuvMyPuppE]

Originally Posted by shodanusmc

<<<<<<I can't even believe that someone posted to her thread with a comment about how she needed not to be on the computer and be tending to her emergency! She clearly said that she was waiting for her husband to get home so they could leave>>>>>

That was me that said that, and I am sticking to it. Waiting, trying to get a ticket, etc, the last thing I would think of is that I have to get on the Forum and post a message. But that is just me, and others are free to do what they want. My wife would not have waited for me, she would have been gone, walking if she had to. Maybe if you actually lost a kid in an accident you would realize that. Then again, maybe not. I hope her son and the dog recover completely.

i agree, but i'm one of those mean, insensitive people!

i actually think it's funny how everyone gets so riled up about who posts what in which thread. this is the internet! nobody was debating at her son's funeral for crying out loud.

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by LuvMyPuppE

i agree, but i'm one of those mean, insensitive people!

i actually think it's funny how everyone gets so riled up about who posts what in which thread. this is the internet! nobody was debating at her son's funeral for crying out loud.

Wow! Now that was over the top!

[shodanusmc]

Why was it over the top? Have you ever lost a child?

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by shodanusmc

<<<<<<I can't even believe that someone posted to her thread with a comment about how she needed not to be on the computer and be tending to her emergency! She clearly said that she was waiting for her husband to get home so they could leave>>>>>

That was me that said that, and I am sticking to it. Waiting, trying to get a ticket, etc, the last thing I would think of is that I have to get on the Forum and post a message. But that is just me, and others are free to do what they want. My wife would not have waited for me, she would have been gone, walking if she had to. Maybe if you actually lost a kid in an accident you would realize that. Then again, maybe not. I hope her son and the dog recover completely.

No, I have not lost one of my children-thank God and I am sorry if this is the case with you. I stand behind my point that it was not the appropriate place to make that comment. You are making a huge assumption that this was a life and death/dire situation. What she said was he was in the ER and the puppy was at a vet in surgery.