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Nikki+2 · 05-21-2009, 01:34 PM

I've been happily married to my best friend for almost 16 years so I certainly don't fall into the category of thinking that marriages are disposable although I must admit I haven't seen that attitude anywhere in this thread. I think people get disgusted by her nastiness to her husband and her children and I think it's completely justified to feel that way regardless of editing or anything else. If the roles were reversed and John acted like Kate and Kate acted like John that show would be taken off of the air pretty darn quick. Everyone would be screaming emotional abuse if a man were treating a woman that way.

Nikki+2 · 05-21-2009, 01:38 PM

I have to add that Kate's bitchiness and John's immaturity and any infidelities aside, I think any couple who chooses to make their family a reality show is pretty low. Children should not be supporting their family and their childhood should not be sold to the public. It's disgusting.

paulapoo · 05-21-2009, 03:06 PM

I've only watched the show once. It was a day long marathon so I watched for a few hours. The last episode was when they moved into their new house. I had no opinion of her before this. At the end of the episode she was standing in the kitchen looking out the window and said this......It's MINE...all MINE. As far as you can see.. It's MINE!
That spoke volumes to me about her character, I won't be watching again.

2Parises · 05-21-2009, 03:12 PM

I came across this rather timely piece that ran in the Detroit News after Kate was invited to a speaking arrangement last week.

Interesting take on her attitude/performance from an audience perception.

Kate Gosselin could learn parenting lessons herself | detnews.com | The Detroit News

Nikki+2 · 05-21-2009, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by paulapoo

I've only watched the show once. It was a day long marathon so I watched for a few hours. The last episode was when they moved into their new house. I had no opinion of her before this. At the end of the episode she was standing in the kitchen looking out the window and said this......It's MINE...all MINE. As far as you can see.. It's MINE!
That spoke volumes to me about her character, I won't be watching again.

Was that the one where she invited her children into her new bedroom and then screamed at them to 'take a good look because you will never be in here again!" and ignored the pleading cries of one to please come wipe him by rolling her eyes and continuing to clean the refrigerator? I only have one child so obviously can't appreciate the challenges that go along with having so many children but if that's what it takes, I am even more grateful for my decision.

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Originally Posted by 2Parises

I came across this rather timely piece that ran in the Detroit News after Kate was invited to a speaking arrangement last week.

Interesting take on her attitude/performance from an audience perception.

Kate Gosselin could learn parenting lessons herself | detnews.com | The Detroit News

Excellent article.

zoeybear · 05-21-2009, 04:03 PM

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It is terrible, the whole thing. If they really are having problems, its just so sad. I don't care how bitchy someone thinks she is, I am in DISBELIEF that a woman would say that the husband should have punched her in the face and she deserves to be divorced! Do people NOT understand this is a marriage and a family! Just sick sick sick how people think that children and marriages are disposable. I think this family started out with the best of intentions in the whole thing.
I recently found out my husband and I are having our 7th, and so many people have asked if we are going for our own reality TV show

I always reply NO WAY, those people go through more crap than someone running for office. Someone could show up at my door with a 25 million dollar contract and I would slam the door in their face. Not worth my marriage. I am not like SOME people who think that a husband or wife is disposable.

I am in "disbelief" that you can't read. I said, Im suprised that he hasn't punched her, not that he "should." Also never mentioned divorce in my post. Get your facts straight! I am also in "disbelief" that you can't take a joke. Maybe lighten up just a tad there.

heatherm0890 · 05-21-2009, 04:24 PM

i will say i have to agree with her on the bedroom issue...with 8 kids a mom and dad deserve a place all their own...my parents bedroom was always their "place" we knocked before we came...she did add that if anyone was hurt or bleeding they were allowed in...as much as my mom has done for me,she deserves some down time without being bothered

shecass · 05-21-2009, 04:24 PM

Even though they are in the public eye I think it's horrible for all aspects of their personal lives to be judged even though it is a reality show. I don't understand why so many people find it so intriguing that they may or may not be going through a difficult time which is something that a lot of people go through. Just because they are in the public eye they should have just as much privacy as a normal person so to speak has.

This is just my opinion. Only they know what is going on in their lives. I will be surprised if there will be another season after all of this coming out.

Anyway, I hope I didn't step on any toes this is just my opinion.

Vicnrd · 05-21-2009, 04:32 PM

I too used to love the show, but got tired of the way Kate talks to John. I agree that if the roles were reversed and he talked to her like that it would be a whole different story.

The children are going to grow up thinking it is okay to disrespect your partner the way that she does. Marriage is hard work and I can't imagine being in the public eye the way that they are (their choice). True partnership takes love and respect for each other, which I think is lacking in this marriage!

Nikki+2 · 05-21-2009, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by heatherm0890

i will say i have to agree with her on the bedroom issue...with 8 kids a mom and dad deserve a place all their own...my parents bedroom was always their "place" we knocked before we came...she did add that if anyone was hurt or bleeding they were allowed in...as much as my mom has done for me,she deserves some down time without being bothered

I always had to knock on my parent's bedroom door and my daughter has been taught this as well. I also knock before entering her room. It just seemed nasty to yell, you will never be in here again! Again, I don't have 8 children but if that's what it takes... I don't know, I'm just not that kind of mom so I guess it's a good thing I haven't and wouldn't put myself in a position to have to be that kind of mom. It is beyond my imagination to ban my child from my bedroom at all times. Since my daughter was little she has enjoyed sitting in my bathroom with me and chatting while I do my hair and makeup or lying in the bed watching movies together... Maybe it's a perk of not having so many or maybe Kate's just a bitch, I have no idea.

shecass · 05-21-2009, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Nikki+2

I always had to knock on my parent's bedroom door and my daughter has been taught this as well. I also knock before entering her room. It just seemed nasty to yell, you will never be in here again! Again, I don't have 8 children but if that's what it takes... I don't know, I'm just not that kind of mom so I guess it's a good thing I haven't and wouldn't put myself in a position to have to be that kind of mom. It is beyond my imagination to ban my child from my bedroom at all times. Since my daughter was little she has enjoyed sitting in my bathroom with me and chatting while I do my hair and makeup or lying in the bed watching movies together... Maybe it's a perk of not having so many or maybe Kate's just a bitch, I have no idea.

I couldn't agree with you more. It's been a hard thing to teach my 12 year old to knock before he comes into our room. So we keep it locked sometimes but make sure it's unlocked and opened before we go to sleep at night. My son still comes and get's in the bed with me of the morning after my husband goes to work. He's a mamma's boy and I wouldn't have it any other way. I do feel sorry for their children because, they think that it's normal to have a camera record your every move.

Ashley V · 05-21-2009, 05:28 PM

I do still watch the show, but not for the parents, for the kids. I just think they are absolutely adorable and I hope they don't get messed up in all of this. I don't care who cheated on who. It's not my business and no one would know if they weren't put out there for the public eye. I don't think it's right the way Kate talks to Jon though. I mean, everyone has their days when they say something nasty to their spouse, but she's very controlling and dominant and sarcastic. He's also incredibly immature sometimes though, so I can see sometimes where she does get frustrated. I think bottom line is that even though it's a "reality" show, we don't always get the entire picture. There is a lot more going on behind closed doors, whether it's good or bad. For the kids sake, I hope they cancel the show, get marriage counseling and try to repair what damage has been done.

Britster · 05-21-2009, 05:59 PM

I've always enjoyed watching the show, however I do agree that Kate is a bitch and treats Jon as the ninth child. It's ridiculous the crap he takes from her and I'm surprised we haven't seen more blow-ups from him... he SEEMS (again, this is just from what I see on TV) like a very good dad. He does the best he can having EIGHT of them! I can't even imagine how stressful that is so you can't blame them for being snarky with each other sometimes.

romeos mommy · 05-21-2009, 08:42 PM

i just crack up when i see kate's duck butt hair style. lol...

i hope they stay 2gether for the kids.

sandyapk · 05-22-2009, 05:04 PM

I hope John and Kate are at the end of themselves. I hope they have a sense of failure that will make them want some help. Instead I think they will just bail out of their marriage. They have an overwhelming job to parent so many multiples. But that is where my sympathy ends. They choose this! I think they always wrote off how they speak to each other as, we don't have time to say it nice , we understand each other and need to get things done. As if it takes more time to be kind when asking for something.
It is easy to get into bad habits, and they are getting rich with every unkind, over spoken thing they do. There is a huge part of my heart that wishes they could get some counseling and rebuild their marriage. If it becomes a train wreck more people will watch the show. I hurt for the kids that have to watch them and participate in the filming.
Money can't buy what they need. I wonder if they would go back and make different choices if they could. Greed is a demanding mistress.

05-21-2009, 01:34 PM	#31
Nikki+2 I heart Sugar Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 7,373	I've been happily married to my best friend for almost 16 years so I certainly don't fall into the category of thinking that marriages are disposable although I must admit I haven't seen that attitude anywhere in this thread. I think people get disgusted by her nastiness to her husband and her children and I think it's completely justified to feel that way regardless of editing or anything else. If the roles were reversed and John acted like Kate and Kate acted like John that show would be taken off of the air pretty darn quick. Everyone would be screaming emotional abuse if a man were treating a woman that way. __________________ "If you have men who will exclude any of God’s creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow men." — St. Francis of Assisi, 1181-1226

05-21-2009, 01:38 PM	#32
Nikki+2 I heart Sugar Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 7,373	I have to add that Kate's bitchiness and John's immaturity and any infidelities aside, I think any couple who chooses to make their family a reality show is pretty low. Children should not be supporting their family and their childhood should not be sold to the public. It's disgusting. __________________ "If you have men who will exclude any of God’s creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow men." — St. Francis of Assisi, 1181-1226

05-21-2009, 03:06 PM	#33
paulapoo Blessed by Otis & Ollie Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Plainfield, Indiana Posts: 2,884	I've only watched the show once. It was a day long marathon so I watched for a few hours. The last episode was when they moved into their new house. I had no opinion of her before this. At the end of the episode she was standing in the kitchen looking out the window and said this......It's MINE...all MINE. As far as you can see.. It's MINE! That spoke volumes to me about her character, I won't be watching again. __________________ ~Paula~ proud mommy of ~Otis (yorkie) & Oliver (shih-poo)

05-21-2009, 03:12 PM	#34
2Parises Donating Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 951	I came across this rather timely piece that ran in the Detroit News after Kate was invited to a speaking arrangement last week. Interesting take on her attitude/performance from an audience perception. Kate Gosselin could learn parenting lessons herself \| detnews.com \| The Detroit News __________________ Lorene, Paris, Paris, Samira, Aja and the newest addition to our family... Halle Belly Bands & Rag Quilts - http://2Parises.etsy.com

05-21-2009, 04:24 PM	#37
heatherm0890 YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Greenville,North Carolina, US Posts: 875	i will say i have to agree with her on the bedroom issue...with 8 kids a mom and dad deserve a place all their own...my parents bedroom was always their "place" we knocked before we came...she did add that if anyone was hurt or bleeding they were allowed in...as much as my mom has done for me,she deserves some down time without being bothered __________________ **Bailee's Mommy **

05-21-2009, 04:24 PM	#38
shecass YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: North wilkesboro, NC Posts: 2,785	Even though they are in the public eye I think it's horrible for all aspects of their personal lives to be judged even though it is a reality show. I don't understand why so many people find it so intriguing that they may or may not be going through a difficult time which is something that a lot of people go through. Just because they are in the public eye they should have just as much privacy as a normal person so to speak has. This is just my opinion. Only they know what is going on in their lives. I will be surprised if there will be another season after all of this coming out. Anyway, I hope I didn't step on any toes this is just my opinion. __________________ Sheila, Mollie & Wyatt Ethan my pride and joy Mollie www.dogster.com/?176293 Wyatt www.dogster.com/?205723

05-21-2009, 04:32 PM	#39
Vicnrd Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 22	I too used to love the show, but got tired of the way Kate talks to John. I agree that if the roles were reversed and he talked to her like that it would be a whole different story. The children are going to grow up thinking it is okay to disrespect your partner the way that she does. Marriage is hard work and I can't imagine being in the public eye the way that they are (their choice). True partnership takes love and respect for each other, which I think is lacking in this marriage! __________________ Vicki & Jet

05-21-2009, 05:28 PM	#42
Ashley V ♥ Chip ♥ Smokey ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Leesburg Posts: 3,835	I do still watch the show, but not for the parents, for the kids. I just think they are absolutely adorable and I hope they don't get messed up in all of this. I don't care who cheated on who. It's not my business and no one would know if they weren't put out there for the public eye. I don't think it's right the way Kate talks to Jon though. I mean, everyone has their days when they say something nasty to their spouse, but she's very controlling and dominant and sarcastic. He's also incredibly immature sometimes though, so I can see sometimes where she does get frustrated. I think bottom line is that even though it's a "reality" show, we don't always get the entire picture. There is a lot more going on behind closed doors, whether it's good or bad. For the kids sake, I hope they cancel the show, get marriage counseling and try to repair what damage has been done. __________________ ~~ Chip ~~ Smokey ~*~ My heart is wrapped around their little paws Karley Marissa born 1/20/12 weighing 8 lbs 11 oz and 21.5 inches long

05-21-2009, 05:59 PM	#43
Britster Action Jackson ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 17,815	I've always enjoyed watching the show, however I do agree that Kate is a bitch and treats Jon as the ninth child. It's ridiculous the crap he takes from her and I'm surprised we haven't seen more blow-ups from him... he SEEMS (again, this is just from what I see on TV) like a very good dad. He does the best he can having EIGHT of them! I can't even imagine how stressful that is so you can't blame them for being snarky with each other sometimes. __________________ ~ Brit & Lights! Camera! Jackson! CGC ETD TKP ~ Follow Jackson on Instagram: https://instagram.com/jacksontheterrier

05-21-2009, 08:42 PM	#44
romeos mommy YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Pennsauken , NJ Posts: 4,068	i just crack up when i see kate's duck butt hair style. lol... i hope they stay 2gether for the kids. __________________ Bernadette & Romeo

05-22-2009, 05:04 PM	#45
sandyapk Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: at home Posts: 515	I hope John and Kate are at the end of themselves. I hope they have a sense of failure that will make them want some help. Instead I think they will just bail out of their marriage. They have an overwhelming job to parent so many multiples. But that is where my sympathy ends. They choose this! I think they always wrote off how they speak to each other as, we don't have time to say it nice , we understand each other and need to get things done. As if it takes more time to be kind when asking for something. It is easy to get into bad habits, and they are getting rich with every unkind, over spoken thing they do. There is a huge part of my heart that wishes they could get some counseling and rebuild their marriage. If it becomes a train wreck more people will watch the show. I hurt for the kids that have to watch them and participate in the filming. Money can't buy what they need. I wonder if they would go back and make different choices if they could. Greed is a demanding mistress.