PETA stikes again!

[Wylie's Mom]

I am a member of PETA and have been for about 20 years. There are several other YT members who are members of PETA as well.

Calling us loonies, nutcases - or implying that you would "punch us in the face" or "they would probably be hospitalized if I got my hands on them!" WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.

When you say those things, consider that you are potentially saying them to A PERSON here.

These kinds of comments are inappropriate and will not be tolerated, on any thread.

[MindieRose]

Sorry, but if a person "freed" my dog and put them in danger, I don't care what organization they belong to, or who they are, I would hit them I am sure. I do not apologize for saying that I would either. And that is exactly what I stated.
The action that this group has threatened is crazy, and "loony". Thats attacking the action and not the person.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

I am a member of PETA and have been for about 20 years. There are several other YT members who are members of PETA as well.

Calling us loonies, nutcases - or implying that you would "punch us in the face" or "they would probably be hospitalized if I got my hands on them!" WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.

When you say those things, consider that you are potentially saying them to A PERSON here.

You are right, my apologies. There are some extremists that are PETA members that address issues in a really radical fashion, but I realize that is not the case for every single member--the same could be said for just about any organization out there. So to phrase my sentiments in a manner that lumped ALL PETA members/supporters together as radicals was unfair. I am sorry for having done such.
That being said, if I was the target for some of the antics I have read about, it would be a different story and at that point I wouldn't care who was a member of what organization and who wasn't. But I realize that is probably not the way the majority of people conduct themselves. As the saying goes, a few bad apples...

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

You are right, my apologies. There are some extremists that are PETA members that address issues in a really radical fashion, but I realize that is not the case for every single member--the same could be said for just about any organization out there. So to phrase my sentiments in a manner that lumped ALL PETA members/supporters together as radicals was unfair. I am sorry for having done such.

That being said, if I was the target for some of the antics I have read about, it would be a different story and at that point I wouldn't care who was a member of what organization and who wasn't. But I realize that is probably not the way the majority of people conduct themselves. As the saying goes, a few bad apples...

THANK YOU, Misty. Really, thank you so much for this reply.

I won't add a thing to it in response, I agree with *all* of it.

[Nancy1999]

I guess I would feel a little more reassured if the fans and members of PETA would speak out and say a certain action is indeed wrong, for example letting the dogs out of cages, they have done this is the past, when the cages were outside, and I wonder if their members think this is acceptable?

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

I guess I would feel a little more reassured if the fans and members of PETA would speak out and say a certain action is indeed wrong, for example letting the dogs out of cages, they have done this is the past, when the cages were outside, and I wonder if their members think this is acceptable?

I don't agree with 100% of what they do -- but -- that's the case (for me) with pretty much everything. Still, I support what they do in terms of medical testing, automobile crashing, animal cruelty campaigns, animal cruelty investigations etcetera (there are many more).

I *do not* support letting animals out of cages at dog shows. Nor do I support all of their campaigns.

Like the general public, I think PETA members do become frustrated by some of the more alienating tactics. I think there is also a lot of frustration about the seemingly eternal misconceptions about PETA. As a member, I do let PETA know if I think they have crossed a line - and I think their members do speak out, bc PETA does respond.
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As I've said many times before, I understand why a lot people won't support PETA and I respect it -- I would just ask that those same people try to see the other side of the coin and respect the fact that others choose to give their support. We may be in different camps, but there is no reason that we shouldn't be able to sit around the fire and talk calmly and respectfully about our differences.

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

I don't agree with 100% of what they do -- but -- that's the case (for me) with pretty much everything. Still, I support what they do in terms of medical testing, automobile crashing, animal cruelty campaigns, animal cruelty investigations etcetera (there are many more).

I *do not* support letting animals out of cages at dog shows. Nor do I support all of their campaigns.

Like the general public, I think PETA members do become frustrated by some of the more alienating tactics. I think there is also a lot of frustration about the seemingly eternal misconceptions about PETA. As a member, I do let PETA know if I think they have crossed a line - and I think their members do speak out, bc PETA does respond.
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As I've said many times before, I understand why a lot people won't support PETA and I respect it -- I would just ask that those same people try to see the other side of the coin and respect the fact that others choose to give their support. We may be in different camps, but there is no reason that we shouldn't be able to sit around the fire and talk calmly and respectfully about our differences.

Thank you this does reassure me, I often wondered if members ever protested about some of the tactics. Until lately, I never believed very much said of PETA because those opposed were so militant and rude, so no matter what side of the fence you find yourself, respectfulness is important.

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

.....so no matter what side of the fence you find yourself, respectfulness is important.

[yorkiekist]

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

I don't agree with 100% of what they do -- but -- that's the case (for me) with pretty much everything. Still, I support what they do in terms of medical testing, automobile crashing, animal cruelty campaigns, animal cruelty investigations etcetera (there are many more).

I *do not* support letting animals out of cages at dog shows. Nor do I support all of their campaigns.

Like the general public, I think PETA members do become frustrated by some of the more alienating tactics. I think there is also a lot of frustration about the seemingly eternal misconceptions about PETA. As a member, I do let PETA know if I think they have crossed a line - and I think their members do speak out, bc PETA does respond.
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As I've said many times before, I understand why a lot people won't support PETA and I respect it -- I would just ask that those same people try to see the other side of the coin and respect the fact that others choose to give their support. We may be in different camps, but there is no reason that we shouldn't be able to sit around the fire and talk calmly and respectfully about our differences.

I suppose that all people in peta arent , as I say, nut cases, and some are probably nice rational people. Why is it that peta never will make a public opolgy or opoligize to the kennel clubs, etc, that they have caused trouble too? Why dont the rational people in peta vote the fanatics out? I think that they need to stick to the REAL problems like baby seal killing, puppy mills, pit fighting, cock fignting, bull fighting and other tortures done to animals. Obviously peta doesnt listen to its members as they keep doing fanatical agendas. That seems to tell me that the majority of the peta members are, as I say, nut cases, and the minority are rational people like you.

[hartygirl]

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

I don't agree with 100% of what they do -- but -- that's the case (for me) with pretty much everything. Still, I support what they do in terms of medical testing, automobile crashing, animal cruelty campaigns, animal cruelty investigations etcetera (there are many more).

I *do not* support letting animals out of cages at dog shows. Nor do I support all of their campaigns.

Like the general public, I think PETA members do become frustrated by some of the more alienating tactics. I think there is also a lot of frustration about the seemingly eternal misconceptions about PETA. As a member, I do let PETA know if I think they have crossed a line - and I think their members do speak out, bc PETA does respond.
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As I've said many times before, I understand why a lot people won't support PETA and I respect it -- I would just ask that those same people try to see the other side of the coin and respect the fact that others choose to give their support. We may be in different camps, but there is no reason that we shouldn't be able to sit around the fire and talk calmly and respectfully about our differences.

[yorkiekist]

> Due to the documentary Pedigree Dogs Exposed, the BBC chose not to air > the> famous Crufts Dog Show. PETA has tried to grab some of the glory for > this.> The producers are not amused. > Thu Jan 8, 2009 12:38 pm (PST)>>> This press release is for immediate release. Please forward freely.>> Jemima>> ------------------------------------------->> BUTT OUT PETA>>> The makers of Pedigree Dogs Exposed, the BBC documentary film that led to> the BBC withdrawing from televising Crufts Dog Show in the UK are furious> with PETA for jumping on the film's bandwagon.>> Earlier this week, PETA called for the US networks to stop televising> Westminster Dog Show, citing the BBC film as evidence of unacceptable> deformity and disease in pedigree dogs.>> Pedigree Dogs Exposed was the result of two years' careful research. The> film highlighted serious health and welfare concerns in pedigree dogs > that> many experts agree need to be addressed urgently. However, the filmmakers> have no connection to PETA and are ideologically opposed to PETA's aims.>>>> "I am horrified that PETA is using the film to further its own, warped> agenda," says Jemima Harrison, of Passionate Productions, which made the> film for the BBC. "Our film is about animal welfare, not animal rights.> PETA's animal welfare record is appalling. It kills 97 per cent of the > dogs> that come to its shelters and admits its ultimate aim is to rid the world > of> what it calls the "domestic enslavement" of dogs as either pets or > working> dogs.>> "In stark contrast, and the reason we made the film, is that we believe> pedigree dogs are of tremendous value to society and that something needs > to> be done to arrest the damage caused by decades of inbreeding and > selection> for 'beauty'. The film is a passionate call for urgent reform to save > them> before it is too late. To do that, there needs to be urgent reform of> breeding practices and dog shows.>> "PETA is a bunch of crackpots who do not care about anything but > publicity> and making money. They have not bothered to contact us - and, indeed, if> they did we would make it very clear we do not want their support. It> devalues and marginalizes a film that raises a serious issue that needs > to> be addressed, and quickly." ************************************************** ***********> Due to the documentary Pedigree Dogs Exposed, the BBC chose not to air > the> famous Crufts Dog Show. PETA has tried to grab some of the glory for > this.> The producers are not amused. > Thu Jan 8, 2009 12:38 pm (PST)>>> This press release is for immediate release. Please forward freely.>> Jemima>> ------------------------------------------->> BUTT OUT PETA>>> The makers of Pedigree Dogs Exposed, the BBC documentary film that led to> the BBC withdrawing from televising Crufts Dog Show in the UK are furious> with PETA for jumping on the film's bandwagon.>> Earlier this week, PETA called for the US networks to stop televising> Westminster Dog Show, citing the BBC film as evidence of unacceptable> deformity and disease in pedigree dogs.>> Pedigree Dogs Exposed was the result of two years' careful research. The> film highlighted serious health and welfare concerns in pedigree dogs > that> many experts agree need to be addressed urgently. However, the filmmakers> have no connection to PETA and are ideologically opposed to PETA's aims.>>>> "I am horrified that PETA is using the film to further its own, warped> agenda," says Jemima Harrison, of Passionate Productions, which made the> film for the BBC. "Our film is about animal welfare, not animal rights.> PETA's animal welfare record is appalling. It kills 97 per cent of the > dogs> that come to its shelters and admits its ultimate aim is to rid the world > of> what it calls the "domestic enslavement" of dogs as either pets or > working> dogs.>> "In stark contrast, and the reason we made the film, is that we believe> pedigree dogs are of tremendous value to society and that something needs > to> be done to arrest the damage caused by decades of inbreeding and > selection> for 'beauty'. The film is a passionate call for urgent reform to save > them> before it is too late. To do that, there needs to be urgent reform of> breeding practices and dog shows.>> "PETA is a bunch of crackpots who do not care about anything but > publicity> and making money. They have not bothered to contact us - and, indeed, if> they did we would make it very clear we do not want their support. It> devalues and marginalizes a film that raises a serious issue that needs > to> be addressed, and quickly." ************************************************** ***********

I am not saying that all peta members are crack-pots. But this is a good article!

[labrown]

Their request is ridiculous in my opinion. It is like saying we shouldn't air the miss america pageant because some of the contestants are african american, and african americans are prone to heart disease, so we shouldn't encourage their breeding. Or we shouldn't air the miss teen america pageant because most young women are prone to HPV, and we shouldn't encourage people to have teenage daughters. The source of the possible genetic defects is the breeding programs they come from, not the public display of the breed. And the people involved have worked hard to get to the point of Wesminster, and should be rewarded for that.

On the PETA issue, I think any organization or affiliation you may be a part of will have some things you agree with and some that you don't. I consider myself a christian, but I don't always agree with things that are done in the name of the Lord. But I am not offended by the comments made against radical christians because I know it doesn't apply to me.

Wylie's mom, I know you aren't a PETA activist that would do anything to harm pets or humans, so I hope you don't take offense when others get angry for radical PETA actions. We love you here at YT!

[yorkiekist]

Originally Posted by labrown

Their request is ridiculous in my opinion. It is like saying we shouldn't air the miss america pageant because some of the contestants are african american, and african americans are prone to heart disease, so we shouldn't encourage their breeding. Or we shouldn't air the miss teen america pageant because most young women are prone to HPV, and we shouldn't encourage people to have teenage daughters. The source of the possible genetic defects is the breeding programs they come from, not the public display of the breed. And the people involved have worked hard to get to the point of Wesminster, and should be rewarded for that.

On the PETA issue, I think any organization or affiliation you may be a part of will have some things you agree with and some that you don't. I consider myself a christian, but I don't always agree with things that are done in the name of the Lord. But I am not offended by the comments made against radical christians because I know it doesn't apply to me.

Wylie's mom, I know you aren't a PETA activist that would do anything to harm pets or humans, so I hope you don't take offense when others get angry for radical PETA actions. We love you here at YT!

Great post and analogy!! And yes, we love ya Wylies mom!!

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by labrown

Wylie's mom, I know you aren't a PETA activist that would do anything to harm pets or humans, so I hope you don't take offense when others get angry for radical PETA actions. We love you here at YT!

Thank you for that !

I don't take offense at all when folks' opinions differ from mine. All opinions are welcome...as long as they're given respectfully.

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by yorkiekist

Great post and analogy!! And yes, we love ya Wylies mom!!

LOL, it's a LOVE FEST !! I'm just so glad that none of us are taking our differing opinions personally.