AHHHH! Some People! (venting)

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by lilroxy

I guess I should go on a rant about all the breeders that are dishonest, unethical and flat out liars.

LOL...go right ahead--you would be in good company finding people to rant about those types of breeders around here.

Originally Posted by lilroxy

Ask yourselves this: How many peoople out there have been burned by unethical breeders for thousands of dollars? That will tell you why John Q Public is so cautious and bargain hunting.

I fail to see how that is at all relevant. There is nothing wrong with trying to avoid the multitude of scammers that are out there these days. However, being cautious and feeling entitled to something are two completely different scenarios.

If you feel the opinions stated here are "arrogant," then you certainly have the right to that opinion. I personally feel that there is a certain tone of "arrogance" found when people expect others to cater to them because they have a special situation or were previously ripped off or because they just don't want to pay the price being asked.

[Ladymom]

Why don't you tell us what you really think?

If you read this article, you will see the estimate for the very minimum cost of owning a dog is about $1,000 a year over its lifetime. These figures were based upon Midwest prices and, as the article points out, can easily double in more expensive areas of the country. If you can't afford $1,000 upfront for a puppy, you probably can't afford the $1,000 a year to care for it.

The Cost of Owning a Dog

Please refrain from flaming on our forum.

[IndianaGirl]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

OK, I need to vent a little about something that has REALLY begun to irritate me lately. Maybe it's just because it's close to Christmas and everyone is looking for a Yorkie to give as a present or something, but I seem to be running across so many people lately who want a Yorkie for free or very little money and it really is just getting to me! (I personally want an Aston Martin for free or very little cost, but I doubt that's going to happen!) "I want a Yorkie, but I can't afford one." Well, then that is really just tough, isn't it!? Who the heck here wouldn't like to have been handed their little one(s) for no charge? Ya know....
And the thing is, many times there is a very sad story, some circumstance that they believe entitles them to get what they want. I realize that Yorkies or any other multitude of random things can be priced high and that it can be difficult for some to afford it, but does that honestly entitle someone to something for free/cheap? What makes any one person more deserving of one than the next?
Ugh! It's very frustrating and a little insulting to be perfectly honest.

OK, I feel a bit better now, thanks for letting me vent. This rant was sponsored and brought to you by my In-Laws.

Yea, thumbs down : on the in laws especially!!

[yorkieisme]

Yeah I agree with this......I am looking for a yorkie for my mom (we just lost my nephew her first grandchild and grandson), does not matter to me what I want to pay for one, but it does to her.......now with that said...when I go and look at a car for sale I do talk the dealer down on the price, I have not asked a breeder down on a price I look within my price range....now I have had a really bad experience just a few days on yorkies that were for sale so I say to OP we buyers have to deal with unethical breeders just as you have to deal with cheaper people. This sounded sort of mean when you are putting your self out there for people to buy from. If you are not happy with what people ask quit breeding and enjoy the life of just have a few. Good Luck. And I also take offense to your "problem".

[shelbys_mom]

Originally Posted by LuvtheCooper

my take on this one....if you really want a yorkie bad enough, you will save up to get one...if you don't want one enough to save for it, you don't want one bad enough.

Your right. I saved for 3 months to buy my baby. Best purchase I ever made, he is worth every penny.

[Britster]

Originally Posted by Ladymom

Why don't you tell us what you really think?

If you read this article, you will see the estimate for the very minimum cost of owning a dog is about $1,000 a year over its lifetime. These figures were based upon Midwest prices and, as the article points out, can easily double in more expensive areas of the country. If you can't afford $1,000 upfront for a puppy, you probably can't afford the $1,000 a year to care for it.

The Cost of Owning a Dog

Please refrain from flaming on our forum.

not necessarily though. just because you can't afford a $1000 dog up front doesn't mean you can't afford $1000 per year through it's lifetime. that's a big difference! and if you only spend $500 on a dog for example... that gives you the extra $500 towards vet bills, toys, crates, and other things the dog may need. i know i paid $550 for jackson and i got $100 off the original price... that extra $100 helped me out a LOT.

and if someone can get a free dog, why not?! my dad got a free dog because his friend's dog had puppies accidentally. there's nothing wrong with not paying for a dog and there's nothing wrong with someone willing to pay $1000's. it all depends on the person, i suppose.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by yorkieisme

I have not asked a breeder down on a price I look within my price range....now I have had a really bad experience just a few days on yorkies that were for sale so I say to OP we buyers have to deal with unethical breeders just as you have to deal with cheaper people.

But then your situation is not the kind I am referring to. You are not asking or expecting breeders to lower the price for you. And you seem to realize that because you/your mom is only willing to spend so much, then your options will be more limited. It's when people feel they are entitled to it or owed it because of whatever reason that it is just outright insulting.
Generally speaking, I don't understand how this issue is at all relevant to the fact that there are so many unethical breeders out there.

Originally Posted by yorkieisme

This sounded sort of mean when you are putting your self out there for people to buy from. If you are not happy with what people ask quit breeding and enjoy the life of just have a few. Good Luck. And I also take offense to your "problem".

LOL...whatever gave the impression that I am "putting myself out there for people to buy from" or that this had anything to do with any dogs in my house?
You say if you're not happy with it quit breeding...well, I say that if you don't like the price of Yorkie, stop looking, so I guess that frame of mind can swing both ways.

[yorkieisme]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

But then your situation is not the kind I am referring to. You are not asking or expecting breeders to lower the price for you. And you seem to realize that because you/your mom is only willing to spend so much, then your options will be more limited. It's when people feel they are entitled to it or owed it because of whatever reason that it is just outright insulting.
Generally speaking, I don't understand how this issue is at all relevant to the fact that there are so many unethical breeders out there.




LOL...whatever gave the impression that I am "putting myself out there for people to buy from" or that this had anything to do with any dogs in my house?
You say if you're not happy with it quit breeding...well, I say that if you don't like the price of Yorkie, stop looking, so I guess that frame of mind can swing both ways.

Actually I don't have the problems with the prices of yorkies.....my point was we the good owners have to deal with breeders also........ now with my issue the other day if you look up my thread you will ee what I was talking about. I did tell my Mom I might have to spend more to feel better when I give her one, of course she said no. So the price is not my issue, it is a gift to my MOM and she is sort of the "issue".

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by Sookie

Not to mention that there are a multitude of expenses associated with owning a Yorkie that come AFTER you actually get him/her - vet costs, food, monthly cost of heartguard, tooth cleaner, warm clothing, beds, etc. etc. etc. If you can't afford to buy the puppy then you can't afford to take proper care of it. That's JMHO. I spend a small fortune on my two girls it seems - totally worth every penny for the happiness they bring me...but still!

We had to save money up to get Callie, we didnt just have the money but she goes to the vet when she needs to, gets her heartworm pill monthly, gets treated for fleas and ticks monthly, has a lot of clothing, has been fixed, a couple of beds,food, treats, bones etc. I do not think love can be messured by how much money you have. I have seen some of the most spoild dogs but they are lacking in love and would give up there over priced clothing and beds just to have someone love them. I think as long as they get what they need and go to the vet when they need to does it really matter how much money you have? Its kind of like saying if you can affored the car then you cant buy the gas!

[lilroxy]

Originally Posted by Ladymom

Why don't you tell us what you really think?

If you read this article, you will see the estimate for the very minimum cost of owning a dog is about $1,000 a year over its lifetime. These figures were based upon Midwest prices and, as the article points out, can easily double in more expensive areas of the country. If you can't afford $1,000 upfront for a puppy, you probably can't afford the $1,000 a year to care for it.

The Cost of Owning a Dog

Please refrain from flaming on our forum.

You underlined the wrong word for emphasis. Estimate is the key word in that sentance. That article is also flawed. Its lists things that not every owner would buy for their pet. I could cut that list by at least 33% thereby lowering my annual pet expenses. Its arrogant to assume that everyone would abide by the same standards, as many have in this thread. Its ignorant to make the statement "If you can't afford $1,000 upfront for a puppy, you probably can't afford the $1,000 a year to care for it." because you are, again ,making the assumption that everyones circumstances are the same. I have a 12yo Lab that has never cost me $1000 in any one calender year. Not even close.

How many breeders list a price range for thier pups? I would say the majority of them do. Not once have I seen on a breeders website or sale listing "Prices are not negotiable", so a breeder shouldn't be surprised when a potential buyer haggles with them.

This wasn't an attack, it was an opposing point of view. I'm entitled to post my opinion here too, am I not? If you took it as an attack, then perhaps the words hit a little too close to home and the truth hurt.

[MollysMum54]

i always worry that people who cant really afford to buy a yorkie, are never going to able to afford to keep one. If there was a bit more thought going into owning a puppy, then maybe there wouldnt be so many in rescue kennels.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by yorkieisme

Actually I don't have the problems with the prices of yorkies.....my point was we the good owners have to deal with breeders also........ now with my issue the other day if you look up my thread you will ee what I was talking about. I did tell my Mom I might have to spend more to feel better when I give her one, of course she said no. So the price is not my issue, it is a gift to my MOM and she is sort of the "issue".

Ah, I understand your "issue" that your mom has now...LOL... Just don't tell her how much it was. (Yes, I am now advocating that someone lie to their mother. ) Kidding...
I realize that good owners have to put up with unethical, bad breeders. That is something we ALL have to put up with that I wish we didn't have to worry about and I realize how hard it makes it to try to find a reputable breeder that can be trusted. If that is the concern rather than simply the desire to pay a lower price, then it seems like the focus should be not on the price being asked, but finding a good breeder and a quality dog.
I guess when you put it in simpler terms, "I'm only going to pay XYZ because there are bad breeders out there" just doesn't make sense.

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by bentleys_momma

what bothers me is when people want a yorkie or even a s**tz or maltese then treat them like some of the "mutt" (hope that doesnt come off offensivly)dogs they have had. They take extra care and time and training. Not to mention the entire grooming aspect.
Or they want them to be completley trained in everything in 2 weeks time!!! I wish more people would research what they are doing before taking the leap!

Just because a dog is a certain breed or a mutt there is no difference they both take time to train and groom! My mom has 2 "mutts" and I dont think they are any better then my Callie who is a full yorkie! Puppys take lost of time no matter "mutts" or not!

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by Lovetodream88

Just because a dog is a certain breed or a mutt there is no difference they both take time to train and groom! My mom has 2 "mutts" and I dont think they are any better then my Callie who is a full yorkie! Puppys take lost of time no matter "mutts" or not!

I think that was the point she was trying to make.

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by Ladymom

Why don't you tell us what you really think?

If you read this article, you will see the estimate for the very minimum cost of owning a dog is about $1,000 a year over its lifetime. These figures were based upon Midwest prices and, as the article points out, can easily double in more expensive areas of the country. If you can't afford $1,000 upfront for a puppy, you probably can't afford the $1,000 a year to care for it.

The Cost of Owning a Dog

Please refrain from flaming on our forum.

But most people dont pay that "$1,000" at one time in the year, its broken up.