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Old 11-16-2008, 08:06 PM   #31
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Sarah, your too young but, The Price is Right game show used to have as prizes long fur coats. Once Bob Barker realized the pain and suffering that went with that coat, he had his models stop wearing them and they were no longer given away as prizes. Of course he used to also say after each show was to help pet population by spaying and neutering. He became educated about it and he made the change.
oo yea ive never seen that show but ive heard of bob barker, im glad they stopped doing that.
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Old 11-16-2008, 09:21 PM   #32
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I saw that video... it is really, really, really disgusting. I almost got sick...



Eating meat is one thing... it's survival and we can't go without eating and it's not so much wearing the fur that's the problem... the problem is the way the animals are being treated... like it's one thing if the animal was killed for food or had died naturally to have their fur for "clothing" as it is beautiful and the fur would just be discarded anyways, but to torture an animal and use it JUST for their fur is what should be outlawed.
Puppies and Kittens should never be used for meat or fur.There is enough other kinds of meat to eat.
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Hello....im Angela...and im new here and this is my first reply

so about this, i lost all respect for peta after i read this article....I love animals...and i think they should have rights....but peta is very contradicting to itself and very hypocritical. I found an article that was posted in the San Francisco Chronicle that made me think twice about their motives. Read it and tell what you guys think...it breaks my heart knowing that the "only" voice for animals would rather kill helpless dogs and cats then find them a loving home. Besides its against Peta's morals to own a animal as a pet...so i guess that makes pretty much all of us here the enemy to them.

Better dead than fed, PETA says
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Old 11-17-2008, 01:55 AM   #34
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we don't need to eat meat,don't need to wear fur or leather, and we certainly don't need beef gelatine in half the food on the shelves !
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Old 11-17-2008, 07:41 AM   #35
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PETA could be a great organization to help protect domestic and wild animals, but for me personally, they have totally tainted their reputation with crazy acts of thrown blood and other objects and liquids. I think it is crazy to attack a human just because they dont agree with you, even if it is PETA. I would never even go to a PETA meeting because I feel like they are crazy, they get press alright, but to me it is the wrong kind of press. And, yes, they are totally using celebrities to make a point.

I actually dont think there is anything wrong with using celebrities to make a point but Im sure they can put their furry heads together and figure out a non-violent way to do it.

All I know is, if some PETA freak poured anything on me, I will have to whip their ass. LOL
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Old 11-17-2008, 08:06 AM   #36
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Would you say that owning and operating a puppy mill is a personal choice-whether we agree with it or not; therefore, we don't need a law against them?
I never said that! I just do not think we need a LAW to prevent people from wearing fur or leather or eating meat.

Should there be a law against people owning dogs or cats as pets? There are many people from PETA who think so. And throwing flour (or paint, which is what they used to do) is battery - and there is a law against that!
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Im a very passive person by nature. I rarely am strongly for or against anything, I always see the gray in the middle. But with Peta, I feel strongly. They do what they have to do to get their message across. Do you think if they said, "Please don't wear fur, it hurts animals" and then walked away from that person. The person will laugh at them and continue to care less!! That is why they act "crazy" as some as stated. There is no other way to get the message out there but to be radical about it! Animal rights is one thing I can speak up for because we are their voice, PERIOD.
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All I know is, if some PETA freak poured anything on me, I will have to whip their ass. LOL
Dito to that! I'm not a Lohan fan in the slightest, but considering the attitude she usually has and the reputation for being a b***h, you really have to give it to her for not retaliating. I mean if someone threw something at me, it would take all the self control I have not to beat the crap out of them! lol
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I never said that! I just do not think we need a LAW to prevent people from wearing fur or leather or eating meat.

Should there be a law against people owning dogs or cats as pets? There are many people from PETA who think so. And throwing flour (or paint, which is what they used to do) is battery - and there is a law against that!
I didn't see where you said anything like that either.
I don't see a problem of wearing fur, eating meat, etc.... We do have enough laws out there that don't need to be there. But what does owning dog or a cat have anything to do with wearing fur, I love my pets and would do anything to keep them from being harmed in any way.

Right now we have enough to worry about with what is going on in the world, life, living, jobs etc... to really worry about wearing fur and things like that.
This is just the way I fill, and I'm sorry if you don't agree with me. But there is more important things in life to worry about, so we can keep living and make this place a better world.
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Angela, That link you provided to the Debra Saunders editorial carried by the SF chronical was interesting reading!

here is it again: Better dead than fed, PETA says

The most important point was this quote from the Center for Consumer Freedom: "In 2003, PETA euthanized over 85 percent of the animals it took in," said a press release from the lobby, "finding adoptive homes for just 14 percent. By comparison, the Norfolk (Va.) SPCA found adoptive homes for 73 percent of its animals and Virginia Beach SPCA adopted out 66 percent."

I wonder why they only had data from 03' but still that is an ugly statistic.

I never knew that PETA was against owning pets, but it makes sense based on their actions. These pets usually eat meat, and that is anathema to PETA, so why not euthanize rescued pets?

I suppose they have a point, but PETA can take my yorkies away only when they pry them from my cold, dead fingers! (sorry Charlton).
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I was not referring to your post. I don't deny the cruelty involved, nor do I want details I appreciate your sensitivity to the issue, but no, it was not an accusation towards the video. If you reread the previous posts there were other accusations about the choice in wearing fur being disgusting. I found that harsh.
Okay I didn't read the other posts. I just wanted you to know where I was coming from, just in case.
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thank you Shawnzeppi!

I read that article a couple of years back....also if you just google "Peta kills" lots of different things pop up....there is even a web site called Peta kills animals...which as you can guess is very bias against Peta...with newer statistics....im not guaranteeing how accurate it is...but very interesting indeed.

PETA Kills Animals | PetaKillsAnimals.com

And this is a page from the PETA's own site stating their beliefs about pet ownership and why its a problem
About PETA >> FAQs >> Companion Animals

*note* I MADE A POST EARLIER...ITS A COPY OF THE 1ST....SORRY ABOUT THAT...IM TRYING TO LEARN THIS FORUM THING...i dont know if it will show up...but if it does...just iqnore it
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Three pages of conversation, looks like PETA has done their job well, once again .

I think Lindsay looked much better in flour than in fur.
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Three pages of conversation, looks like PETA has done their job well, once again .

I think Lindsay looked much better in flour than in fur.
Yeah, it matches her pasty skin
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First, let me start by saying I do not like Lindsay or Sam and I would never wear fur. I received a donation request from PETA on the same day that I read about the flour being poured on Lindsay. Needless to say, I did not give a donation because of PETA's tactics. Go to the source - the people who make the fur clothing instead of pouring flour or paint on people. I would have had them arrested.
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