Flour Power VS Peta

[IndianaGirl]

I saw this posted on the internet and wondered what others thought about it?
The girls name is Samantha Ronson and she is dating/friends with Lindsey Lohan. Here is the article:


Samantha Ronson



Flour Power


Saturday, November 15th, 2008

I posted a blog last week that angered some people who didn't know how to read properly, I then wasted my own time defending myself and now I regret that.

There is a fine line that distinguishes the difference between exercising our freedom of expression and offending others, for example the debate regarding freedom of speech vs. hate speech.... i feel that this principle should apply to protestors also. It's a pity that some groups feel the need to assault people as opposed to fighting with words.

Whenever I feel the need to vent about something that feels unfair to me I reach for my computer, I don't run out of the house with abusive intentions. I don't expect everyone to react the same way, but I do expect people to respect each other. Maybe that's my first mistake? It seems lately I am learning that there are too many people who put another species before their fellow man and that's sad. I don't wear fur, but I don't think I have the right to ATTACK those who do. No one has that right.

PETA should focus their efforts on educating people on what they believe are injustices instead of seeking press via harassing those in the limelight. I received an apology too many days late from the PETA folks (the blog removal was too little too late) and today I'm pissed at the bag of flour thrown on Lindsay last night. Not because I got powdered down, but because the girl who threw it acted like an animal herself. I take that back, it's an insult to animals to group her in with them, my dog is FAR more civilized than that person. I would have more respect for them if they didn't use other people to get their point across. Lindsay, Mary Kate, Ashley Olsen, Anna Wintour and the rest of the targeted celebrities aren't the problem, I'm pretty sure they're not the only ones wearing fur, in fact, they should be appreciated by PETA for giving them a target. If it weren't for them, who would get them press?????

I know I'm probably going to get a lot of angry emails in response, but I don't really care. I got enough last week for no reason so I'm more than happy to ignore the nastiness after seeing what I saw last night. I'm not about to throw on a fur coat in retaliation, but had I had one within reach, I'm not sure I would have walked away from it.

p.s. when was the last time you saw an animal attack one of its own in defense of a human? hmmmmm..... that's one to grow on!

p.s.s. i think there are plenty of families that could have used that flour for a meal. nice job, lady.

[Babz]

Well. I do not agree on wearing fur. But I think throwing a bag of flour on someone is quite an offense. Physical offense, in fact.

You know what.. I think there should be a law that forbid people to wear fur, not just a law to protect the animals. We are in the 21st century, we do not hunt animals anymore to clothe ourselves, and maybe this is just me, but I find the act of throwing fur on your back as a fashion statement is tasteless and disgusting.

But of course, Sam Ronson is biased. She's a celebrity herself. Lindsay is her alleged lover. I believe, yes, we should reprimand celebrities that wear fur because they glamorize it, no? Monkey see, monkey do. There's a reason why celebs now are on every kind of adverts on the planet. THEY HAVE THAT POWER. They should use it wisely. They can take up any cause at all to bring good word and publicity on it, but what do they do? Create controversies.

This is why I stopped reading gossip sites/blogs.

[SamiNFurbabies]

hehehe I read a lot of Eonline...
PETA's wrong. But...
I don't like Samantha Ronson's continual dismissal of animals. She keeps on saying (in other articles, as well) that people treat animals better than humans. REALLY? Is that why we are taking their habitat? Is that why we are milling poor innocent dogs? Is that why the farming industry is generally so callous to its animals?
She got mad that in California they passed some bill for treating farm animals humanely--- and that they passed prop 8 (which i have no opinion in regards to that and this is not my point...so bear with me!) She said that was treating animals better than fellow man... ummm animals are being tortured in those farms...they DESERVE that. It's a matter of them being tortured unnecessarily and being in immense pain.... I don't like how dismissive she is towards animals.

Ok. I'm done lol I just animals more than anything/one other than God.

[Lindsay1973]

Peta talks for the animals who cannot talk for themselves,I am sure that they protest everywhere and not just around Celebrities.Celebrities play a huge role in todays society and therefore should be positive role models,how many people have bought a Chihuhaua just because Paris Hilton has Tinkerbell and then dumped them because she got a Yorkie?

Everyone hates people who wear fur so why do the insist on continuing to do this.Yes they shouldn't throw flour at her but at least it will wash off and wasn't blood or paint.

Who cares if their feelings are hurt animals are helpless and cannot protest for themselves.You don't see a Bear walking around wearing the latest Lindsay Lohan coat or Samantha Ronson boots.I saw a horrific e-mail about how they skin puppies alive so she can go take a long leap off a cliff.Everyone should support animal welfare organisations.

[Sookie]

Originally Posted by Babz

Well. I do not agree on wearing fur. But I think throwing a bag of flour on someone is quite an offense. Physical offense, in fact.

You know what.. I think there should be a law that forbid people to wear fur, not just a law to protect the animals.

Do we really need another law? Wearing fur is a personal choice - whether we agree with it or not. I, personally, do not wear fur but I have a leather jacket and I eat meat.

[Ashley V]

Originally Posted by Lindsay1973

Peta talks for the animals who cannot talk for themselves,I am sure that they protest everywhere and not just around Celebrities.Celebrities play a huge role in todays society and therefore should be positive role models,how many people have bought a Chihuhaua just because Paris Hilton has Tinkerbell and then dumped them because she got a Yorkie?

Everyone hates people who wear fur so why do the insist on continuing to do this.Yes they shouldn't throw flour at her but at least it will wash off and wasn't blood or paint.

Who cares if their feelings are hurt animals are helpless and cannot protest for themselves.You don't see a Bear walking around wearing the latest Lindsay Lohan coat or Samantha Ronson boots.I saw a horrific e-mail about how they skin puppies alive so she can go take a long leap off a cliff.Everyone should support animal welfare organisations.

I saw that video... it is really, really, really disgusting. I almost got sick...

Originally Posted by Sookie

Do we really need another law? Wearing fur is a personal choice - whether we agree with it or not. I, personally, do not wear fur but I have a leather jacket and I eat meat.

Eating meat is one thing... it's survival and we can't go without eating and it's not so much wearing the fur that's the problem... the problem is the way the animals are being treated... like it's one thing if the animal was killed for food or had died naturally to have their fur for "clothing" as it is beautiful and the fur would just be discarded anyways, but to torture an animal and use it JUST for their fur is what should be outlawed.

[Babz]

Originally Posted by Sookie

Do we really need another law? Wearing fur is a personal choice - whether we agree with it or not. I, personally, do not wear fur but I have a leather jacket and I eat meat.

Why not? We all cry about having more laws to protect animals, why not one that forbids us to wear fur? It will help protect the animals after all. Salvaging is one thing. Fur is associated with "glam" and "money" since only the rich can afford the exotic furs. That is what's wrong.

I eat meat. I do not have leather clothing but I don't really have a strong opinion about it. If we kill and eat cows then why not use the whole animal? I, however, find that leather seats are quite gross, and wrong. I cannot understand it myself but there you go. If eating meat yet not agreeing that fur should be used as a fashion statement makes me a hypocrite, so be it.

I guess what I'm saying here is that to wear fur to be "fashionable" is what's wrong in my eyes. It is forbidden to go into the States carrying exotic animal parts like elephant tusks, and tiger pelts. So to glamorize any kinds of fur at all is a step on the wrong direction, don't you think?

Don't get me wrong, I am not reprimanding countries or laws. I am only saying that if governments are really interested in stopping animal cruelty, maybe this is one way to go about it. We all know puppy mills are wrong but how are we going to stop it without the law going into it? Are we supposed to let people's awareness be the.. well, the be all and end all?

I am not very well informed in this issue so I am not going to yell and scream "WEAR FUR AND BURN" sort of thing. What I am interested in is, how DO we stop animal cruelty without the law stating it's wrong?

If I have composed my points rather badly, I apologize. It is 4 AM.

[mizzwanned]

I think it's good for her, i do not like her and i do not like when ppl wear fur. Either way she took the flour right off and posed for cameras right after, i wish it were paint.

[Ashley V]

Originally Posted by mizzwanned

I think it's good for her, i do not like her and i do not like when ppl wear fur. Either way she took the flour right off and posed for cameras right after, i wish it were paint.

[Harley_chik]

I can see her point, especially about the prop 8 thing, JMO. I does seem like animals get more attention than some human related causes. To be perfectly honest, I'm probably guilty about caring more about animal too. People in general can speak out and help themselves, even if a lot of them are content to just sit around and whine about their circumstances. (I'm talking about adults in America.) As for the fur thing, I personally don't wear fur or plan to in the future. However, I own leather jackets and leather shoes, so I would feel hypocritical for condemning those that wear fur.

I am no fan of PETA. They are a bunch of fanatics, that again IMO, do more to set back animal welfare. There are a lot of people who hear about anti-cruelty, anti-tethering laws, anti-puppymills, and just dismiss it as some crazy PETA cause. Even the reputable show breeders are leary of any anti-puppymill campaign/legislation b/c they are afraid PETA is behind it.

[Cherylt8]

Originally Posted by Sookie

Do we really need another law? Wearing fur is a personal choice - whether we agree with it or not. I, personally, do not wear fur but I have a leather jacket and I eat meat.

Ditto on that statement.... there were a few very good valid points made here! I guess to each their own!

[SamiNFurbabies]

can see her point, especially about the prop 8 thing, JMO. I does seem like animals get more attention than some human related causes. To be perfectly honest, I'm probably guilty about caring more about animal too. People in general can speak out and help themselves, even if a lot of them are content to just sit around and whine about their circumstances. (I'm talking about adults in America.) As for the fur thing, I personally don't wear fur or plan to in the future.

I dont' agree... humans in America don't have to go through (as a whole) such injustice... it would be totally unacceptable if they did.
With animals---they suffer abuse quietly---they don't have a voice. If people cared more about animals they wouldn't be suffering so much!
Prop 8 has to do with marraige rights.... the animal law has to do with combatting suffering. To me it's a piece of paper (especially since there are civil unions---which i don't get why the difference is... if that is allowed, then so should marraige I guess) vs. pain.

And I hate FUR. I just think that PETA makes themselves look like loonie toons when they pull things like this. It makes people less open minded to their cause.
BTW I hate PETA for what they do to dogs.

JMO

Chrissy

[BoBoDiddle]

Originally Posted by Sookie

Do we really need another law? Wearing fur is a personal choice - whether we agree with it or not. I, personally, do not wear fur but I have a leather jacket and I eat meat.

Would you say that owning and operating a puppy mill is a personal choice-whether we agree with it or not; therefore, we don't need a law against them?

[IndianaGirl]

Originally Posted by mizzwanned

I think it's good for her, i do not like her and i do not like when ppl wear fur. Either way she took the flour right off and posed for cameras right after, i wish it were paint.

You know girl, we just might think alike!! :

[Hooks_Yorkie]

Originally Posted by SamiNFurbabies

I dont' agree... humans in America don't have to go through (as a whole) such injustice... it would be totally unacceptable if they did.
With animals---they suffer abuse quietly---they don't have a voice. If people cared more about animals they wouldn't be suffering so much!
Prop 8 has to do with marraige rights.... the animal law has to do with combatting suffering. To me it's a piece of paper (especially since there are civil unions---which i don't get why the difference is... if that is allowed, then so should marraige I guess) vs. pain.

And I hate FUR. I just think that PETA makes themselves look like loonie toons when they pull things like this. It makes people less open minded to their cause.
BTW I hate PETA for what they do to dogs.

JMO

Chrissy

I love animals don't get me wrong, but the idea that humans don't face such injustice is wrong. It is just a different spectrum. I wish that there was such a terrible uproar for the type of things that human beings have to deal with every day.

I will admit I am terribly biased. I don't understand why ppl aren't that violently angry about denying someone equal rights, sexual abuse, and any other form of violence that millions of human beings experience as their daily reality.