Flour Power VS Peta

[IndianaGirl]

Go to the source - the people who make the fur clothing instead of pouring flour or paint on people.

But don't people need to take some sort of responsibility for buying the fur? To go to the source is also going to the buyer IMO

[yorkiepuppie]

i think wearing fur is a VERY offensive thing to do. IMO that's like going to someone's house and seeing that they have slaves chained up in the kitchen or something horrible like that.

i thought we have moved passed slavery and fur by now.

so relatively, i don't think throwing flour on someone wearing fur is offensive at all. it seems that person from peta was way too kind.

if they had went up to lindsy and chopped her head off or something, then that would be kind of offensive...but then again, she does wear fur. so, she would probably deserve something horrible like that since she is stating that she supports violence and horrible deaths by wearing fur.

[Sookie]

Originally Posted by yorkiepuppie

i think wearing fur is a VERY offensive thing to do. IMO that's like going to someone's house and seeing that they have slaves chained up in the kitchen or something horrible like that.

i thought we have moved passed slavery and fur by now.

so relatively, i don't think throwing flour on someone wearing fur is offensive at all. it seems that person from peta was way too kind.

if they had went up to lindsy and chopped her head off or something, then that would be kind of offensive...but then again, she does wear fur. so, she would probably deserve something horrible like that since she is stating that she supports violence and horrible deaths by wearing fur.

Does the same thing apply to eating meat or wearing a leather belt? Just wondering!

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by pea496

Go to the source - the people who make the fur clothing instead of pouring flour or paint on people. I would have had them arrested.

The people who wear the fur *are* the source - they drive the market. If people stop buying fur, it will stop being produced as there will cease to be a market for it.

But, I get where you're coming from too. I think those who farm fur or work in the fur industry should be arrested for the horrendous cruelty that we've all seen on film (I think we all know which footage I'm speaking of, the worst I've seen in my life).

Whether folks like it or not, one of PETA's main objectives is awareness so that people start talking - and here again, they've done their job well.

[JCarlson2004]

Originally Posted by mizzwanned

I agree, they are bringing attention to it. I personally dont even like the look of fur on ppl, i think it looks stupid, but ppl have diff. styles. The thing is faux fur looks identical, why not just get fake fur? I have a faux fur throw and its soo warm, i dont need real fur and wouldnt want an animal to die just for me to wear it

Did you know that a lot of fur trim (like on coats or boots) is actually REAL fur even though it doesn't say so on the tag? I didn't know that!

Also, if the product is below a certain price (forgot the exact amount but you can call Fur Kill's main number and ask because that is what I did) then they do not have to specify that is REAL fur and not synthetic. If you buy a jacket for $250, most people will assume the fur is fake because the jacket isn't that expensive. Most fur costs well into the thousands -- so just from the price alone you KNOW it's real fur. THAT'S how they trick people. People figure well I'm only paying $100, so this fur has to be fake because real fur is expensive. No so anymore!

This link is really imformative: bones

I'll just post a few bits and pieces from the website:

"Recently, the use of fur trim has become a major part of the fur industry. In the past, the fur industry’s emphasis was on full-length coats. Now trim is becoming a mainstay of the trade."

"By disguising small amounts of fur through shearing, dying, and plucking, furriers are able to market their cruel products to an unknowing audience."

"Major furriers have changed the focus of their advertising and are trying to keep their industry alive by pushing fur trim on such items as bikinis, blankets, hats, jeans, scarves, skirts, knitted sweaters, ponchos, purses, and vests."

"The sale of fur coats is down, but the fur industry can claim victory in making fur trim socially acceptable. The latest figures from the Fur Information Council of America (FICA) reveals the fur trim market to be worth nearly $500 million annually."

"Fur trim items are available everywhere and in many cases will not be marked as real fur. According to fur industry publications, furriers believe fur-trimmed garments will become more important than all-fur garments in terms of repeat business because such items might be replaced in only a few years, whereas a fur coat may last for 20 years or more. Furriers also believe that fur trim is what helped bring younger consumers back."

[GeorgiaOnMyMind]

Originally Posted by mizzwanned

I agree, they are bringing attention to it. I personally dont even like the look of fur on ppl, i think it looks stupid, but ppl have diff. styles. The thing is faux fur looks identical, why not just get fake fur? I have a faux fur throw and its soo warm, i dont need real fur and wouldn't want an animal to die just for me to wear it

My daughter who is 15 now, went through a phase of Safari decor when she was in the 5th thru 7th grade. She just absolutely loved the it and her favorite animal was the leopard. Her room was even decorated in Safari decor but we never put any fake fur in there. Ever since she was in the 3rd grade, she has wanted to go to college to be a vet. She absolutely loves animals.

She is a freshman now, but when she was in the 6th grade, my mother-in-law bought her a fake leopard print blazer for Christmas and she thought it was absolutely beautiful. She wore it one time to school. The students at school tormented and bullied her all day long for wearing that blazer. It didn't matter to them that it was fake. And it really was obviously fake. Anyway, she came home crying that day from everything that happened and told me to "get rid of it". That was the very last time she wore it.

[Tammyh]

Originally Posted by yorkiepuppie

[F]i think wearing fur is a VERY offensive thing to do. IMO that's like going to someone's house and seeing that they have slaves chained up in the kitchen or something horrible like that.

i thought we have moved passed slavery and fur by now.

so relatively, i don't think throwing flour on someone wearing fur is offensive at all. it seems that person from peta was way too kind.

if they had went up to lindsy and chopped her head off or something, then that would be kind of offensive...but then again, she does wear fur. so, she would probably deserve something horrible like that since she is stating that she supports violence and horrible deaths by wearing fur.[/FONT]

I'm sorry but to compare wearing fur to slavery is to make light of the horror and injustice to those that were slaves. You lost me on that one.

[pea496]

Originally Posted by IndianaGirl

Go to the source - the people who make the fur clothing instead of pouring flour or paint on people.

But don't people need to take some sort of responsibility for buying the fur? To go to the source is also going to the buyer IMO

There will always be stupid people or those that are uninformed that will buy fur. If manufacturers can't produce, people can't buy.

[yorkiepuppie]

Originally Posted by Sookie

Does the same thing apply to eating meat or wearing a leather belt? Just wondering!

well, i think it's not good to eat meat and/or wear leather. but i don't think it's the same as wearing fur.

to me, eating meat is less evil than wearing leather, and wearing leather is less evil than wearing fur (but than again, what isn't?)

eating meat and wearing leather will hopefully one day be viewed as a barbaric thing to do as the society matures and progresses. we are not there yet, but i believe that we'll get there.

wearing fur just seems so INTENTIONALLY cruel to me.

with eating meat and using leather product you at least have the society on your side (meaning, personal beliefs aside, IT IS the norm to eat meat and use leather product since the majority of the people do)

[yorkiepuppie]

Originally Posted by Tammyh

I'm sorry but to compare wearing fur to slavery is to make light of the horror and injustice to those that were slaves. You lost me on that one.

i am sorry if you found the comparison offensive. everything about wearing fur is offensive, therefore making any comparisons will likely be unpleasant...i am not making light of the horror and injustice to those that were slaves (are you making light of the animals that were violently tortured to death?)

i am confused? are you saying that one is more horrible than the other? and that comparing them is not cool and doesn't make sense?
anyways, i am not making light of anything. they are both extremely horrible things.

we are all living beings capable of suffering. there is NO difference.

[Ashley V]

Originally Posted by yorkiepuppie

well, i think it's not good to eat meat and/or wear leather. but i don't think it's the same as wearing fur.

to me, eating meat is less evil than wearing leather, and wearing leather is less evil than wearing fur (but than again, what isn't?)

eating meat and wearing leather will hopefully one day be viewed as a barbaric thing to do as the society matures and progresses. we are not there yet, but i believe that we'll get there.

wearing fur just seems so INTENTIONALLY cruel to me.

with eating meat and using leather product you at least have the society on your side (meaning, personal beliefs aside, IT IS the norm to eat meat and use leather product since the majority of the people do)

I don't think eating meat is "evil" at all. It is a way of survival. So since animals kill EACH OTHER for meat, does that make THEM evil? It's the same thing and especially since technically we are all animals.

[yorkiepuppie]

Originally Posted by Ashley V

I don't think eating meat is "evil" at all. It is a way of survival. So since animals kill EACH OTHER for meat, does that make THEM evil? It's the same thing and especially since technically we are all animals.

Yes, i agree. maybe evil is the wrong word to use. let me re-phrase.

to me, eating meat is less mean than wearing leather, and wearing leather is less mean than wearing fur (but than again, what isn't?)

animals are not evil for killing for food. but it's a very different story to use machinery to kill animals.

dogs for example, use sharp teeth. take away machinery/weapons, how would people kill animals to eat?

also, animals don't catch and skin another animal in order to be "fashionable".

[JCarlson2004]

Originally Posted by yorkiepuppie

also, animals don't catch and skin another animal in order to be "fashionable".

Very true.

[BamaFan121s]

I don't agree with fur for fashion. I think the practice and trade is horrible and cruel. However, wearing fur is not illegal, it's a choice people make and have a right to make, agree with it or not.
That being said, regardless of how strongly you feel against it, that does NOT give anyone that right to physically attack another person. If you feel strongly enough about it that you want to speak out and participate in movements towards educating and protesting the practice, that's one thing, physical violence is another and there is no justification for that.
Tactics like that are what make PETA a big joke to alot of people and what costs them alot of credibility in the eyes and ears of alot of would-be supporters of their efforts. When you cross that line and take it to the extreme, any positive aspect of your efforts are overshadowed and discredited. A true 'one bad apple spoils the whole bunch' type situation.

[IndianaGirl]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

I don't agree with fur for fashion. I think the practice and trade is horrible and cruel. However, wearing fur is not illegal, it's a choice people make and have a right to make, agree with it or not.
That being said, regardless of how strongly you feel against it, that does NOT give anyone that right to physically attack another person. If you feel strongly enough about it that you want to speak out and participate in movements towards educating and protesting the practice, that's one thing, physical violence is another and there is no justification for that.
Tactics like that are what make PETA a big joke to alot of people and what costs them alot of credibility in the eyes and ears of alot of would-be supporters of their efforts. When you cross that line and take it to the extreme, any positive aspect of your efforts are overshadowed and discredited. A true 'one bad apple spoils the whole bunch' type situation.

I don't think flour being thrown on one is physically hurting them. Its not like a bat or something that could cause serious harm. Whether its right or wrong in peoples eyes, I only care if it will make one person stop wearing fur!!