Originally Posted by LoveMyJake (Post 1477647)

Janell, you already know how I feel about this situation, and I am behind you 100%. I know for a fact that Janell is telling the truth, so I will tell my story now. I apologize in advance for it being long.

I am the one who bought little baby Lily from Willow. When I first learned of Willow having puppies, she told me that one of the girls was blind. She said she didn't know until after her eyes opened. She did not take her to the vet to see exactly what is wrong until I asked her to. I had agreed to buy Lily for $100. I thought Alycia and I were friends, and I thought she was a legitimate, honest person at first. But, after knowing her for awhile, alot of things just didn't add up with her. I knew about her money situation, so my thing was to try to help Lily, but I wanted to know exactly what was wrong with her first. I wanted to know what to expect. She took her to the vet, and he said she had Hydrocephalus. I don't know how the vet didn't recognize it from the beginning (when she got tail docked) because Lily's head was very large, she was behind in development, and she was not growing normally.

One evening I was home from work with whiplash, and she called me, practically hysterical. She said she thought Lily was much worse, and she didn't know what to do. I offered to just come and get her, even though she was only 5 weeks old. She said when she nursed, her tummy didn't seem full, so I thought I could at least be able to get some nurishment into her. I wanted to get her to my own vet. So, my husband and I drove 2 1/2 hours to get Lily. Willow warned me before I got there that her house was "a mess". She said they have no running water because they couldn't afford to have a well put in. What we saw once we got there was more than just a mess. It made me sick to think of her four small children living under those conditions. With baby chickens and turkeys in a box in the living room, I'm surprised that the puppies didn't get parvo. Her trailer was filthy, and all the dogs were dirty and matted. The puppies were adorable, but they were all running around peeing and pooping wherever they wanted. I never saw a single pee pad there. They were just going on the carpet. So, for those of you on YT that bought one of these puppies, if you had a hard time getting them to use a pee pad, I'm not surprised at all. I wanted to just scoop up the dogs and puppies and take them all.

I knew that Lily was sick, and I knew what I was getting into. I do not blame Willow at all for that. But, I didn't know just how bad Lily's condition was until I actually saw her. She was disgustingly filthy and smelled bad. Her head was very large, she seemed lethargic to me. She could barely hold her head up. I weighed her when we got home. She weighed 13 oz. She could not walk on her own, although I was told by Willow that she was playing with the other pups. There's no way that's true. I had to feed her puppy Esbilac with a pet bottle, she still had no teeth. She acted like she was starving, and I told my husband I thought she was malnurished.

I took Lily to the vet the next day, and he confirmed what I thought. He put her on an IV for a couple hours to get her re-hydrated. He told me to feed her every two hours around the clock. Willow was feeding her dog food which she was not ready for, and it was Purina. She *said* that she was feeding her Esbilac, but I don't believe that. When we were there to pick her up, she said "I wish I had some Esbilac to give you to take home, but I don't have any." Okay, what was she planning on feeding Lily through the night if I hadn't picked her up? She lives out in the country where there isn't much around, so I'm sure no stores were open. And, she said there were no pet stores in her area.

I asked Willow whether Lily was eating when she had her. She said that Lily's mommy was rejecting her and wouldn't feed her. She never told me that until AFTER I had Lily. It would have been something useful for me to know! Also, she was kept separate from the other pups and her mommy in a little cage where she just pooped and peed in a corner. Lily didn't even know how to suck, so I knew she couldn't have nursed from the mother.

Within 5 days of having her, the swelling in her head went way down and her head was close to normal size. She was eating well every two hours, and she was up to 1 lb. I thought she was going to make it. She started walking around and even tried to play a little bit. Unfortunately, after having her for only 10 days, she started to have seizures and they were just too much for her tiny body. I was on the phone with my vet who was making arrangements for her to be hospitalized, and she passed away in my husband's arms.:( A couple weeks later when I took Jake to the vet for his yearly checkup, my vet and I were talking about Lily. I told him that I truly did think she would make it, and I so wish she had. He said "I think she would have made it if she would have had a better start. She was in bad shape when you got her."

I want to make it clear that I'm not mad because Willow sold me a sick puppy. I KNEW what I was getting into. But, I was upset about the things she neglected to tell me until AFTER I got Lily. I was extremely mad about Lily being neglected. I had her for 10 days, and let me tell you, I barely had time for anything else. Taking care of her to get her as healthy as possible was a full-time job for me. So, I know that she wasn't caring for her properly because she was always on the internet, or she was out shopping and doing whatever she wanted while poor little Lily was dying.

I did what I did for Lily and nothing else. I don't regret it, I don't care what I paid for her, none of that matters. I didn't bother to even tell her what I thought because none of it would have made any difference. Lily was gone and nothing would bring her back. I couldn't even deal with talking about it to her, so I didn't. At the time, I was so depressed and sleep deprived that I just couldn't face it. But, I am also the one who made sure that Sugar's Mom knew the conditions of Willow's house. Willow had told me that she was buying a female yorkie with championship lines. She wouldn't tell me who she was buying the pup from, but I found out. I was so worried about that puppy going into those conditions, and Willow had told my husband and I that she still planned on breeding her, even though she had a hernia. I knew that she was being sold with limited registration, and I knew that Sugar's Mom didn't know that Willow planned to breed her. Willow told me that her vet said she could still be bred once the hernia was fixed. She bragged about how she was getting a dog with championship lines for a very reasonable price. So, if Willow wants to know why the sale was stopped.....I'm the one she can complain to. I tried to do things as quietly and discretely as possible because I didn't want to cause problems or drama on YT.

I tried to give Willow every chance I could. I felt sorry for her in alot of ways. I am very sympathetic toward people and animals who need help. My husband always tells me "you can't save them all". When she was trying to get a YT train together to get one of her pups to Texas, I told her I wanted to help with gas money. I mailed her $25 cash (not alot, but at least a little help) and then didn't hear from her. Then, she PMd me about something else and I asked her if she got the money I sent. She said no and wondered if it got lost and even said that maybe her 19-year-old niece who was staying with her took it. I told her to let me know if it came the next day. She said she would definitely email me the next day to tell me if it came. I never heard another word about the money, so again, I let it go. But, I swore I'd never try to help her in any way again. Last thing I heard, she emailed me to say she was moving to Colorado. I don't believe it, but that's because she has told so many people so many lies that I just automatically don't believe her anymore. I'm just so done with her.

That's my story, and every word of it is the truth. I would never make things up about someone for any reason.

Janell, I'm here if you ever need me, my friend!

Originally Posted by Nikki+2 (Post 1477922)

Wow, I am speechless! How in the world could she subject her children to that!? I'm pretty sure running water is a requirement for a CO, isn't it? In that case she would be living in an illegal dwelling. I've already posted about how I feel about what she did to Janell but now my heart is breaking for her poor children. She needs to get her priorities straight. Running water comes before computers, internet and yorkies. Willow, if you read this- take care of your children. There is no excuse for what you are doing!:mad:

Originally Posted by chloeandj (Post 1477733)

If it was not already done, someone involved in the situation should call social services on the quality of the home that her children are living in. I can understand not having money, but the filth...:mad:

Originally Posted by LoveMyJake (Post 1477647)

Janell, you already know how I feel about this situation, and I am behind you 100%. I know for a fact that Janell is telling the truth, so I will tell my story now. I apologize in advance for it being long.

I am the one who bought little baby Lily from Willow. When I first learned of Willow having puppies, she told me that one of the girls was blind. She said she didn't know until after her eyes opened. She did not take her to the vet to see exactly what is wrong until I asked her to. I had agreed to buy Lily for $100. I thought Alycia and I were friends, and I thought she was a legitimate, honest person at first. But, after knowing her for awhile, alot of things just didn't add up with her. I knew about her money situation, so my thing was to try to help Lily, but I wanted to know exactly what was wrong with her first. I wanted to know what to expect. She took her to the vet, and he said she had Hydrocephalus. I don't know how the vet didn't recognize it from the beginning (when she got tail docked) because Lily's head was very large, she was behind in development, and she was not growing normally.

One evening I was home from work with whiplash, and she called me, practically hysterical. She said she thought Lily was much worse, and she didn't know what to do. I offered to just come and get her, even though she was only 5 weeks old. She said when she nursed, her tummy didn't seem full, so I thought I could at least be able to get some nurishment into her. I wanted to get her to my own vet. So, my husband and I drove 2 1/2 hours to get Lily. Willow warned me before I got there that her house was "a mess". She said they have no running water because they couldn't afford to have a well put in. What we saw once we got there was more than just a mess. It made me sick to think of her four small children living under those conditions. With baby chickens and turkeys in a box in the living room, I'm surprised that the puppies didn't get parvo. Her trailer was filthy, and all the dogs were dirty and matted. The puppies were adorable, but they were all running around peeing and pooping wherever they wanted. I never saw a single pee pad there. They were just going on the carpet. So, for those of you on YT that bought one of these puppies, if you had a hard time getting them to use a pee pad, I'm not surprised at all. I wanted to just scoop up the dogs and puppies and take them all.

I knew that Lily was sick, and I knew what I was getting into. I do not blame Willow at all for that. But, I didn't know just how bad Lily's condition was until I actually saw her. She was disgustingly filthy and smelled bad. Her head was very large, she seemed lethargic to me. She could barely hold her head up. I weighed her when we got home. She weighed 13 oz. She could not walk on her own, although I was told by Willow that she was playing with the other pups. There's no way that's true. I had to feed her puppy Esbilac with a pet bottle, she still had no teeth. She acted like she was starving, and I told my husband I thought she was malnurished.

I took Lily to the vet the next day, and he confirmed what I thought. He put her on an IV for a couple hours to get her re-hydrated. He told me to feed her every two hours around the clock. Willow was feeding her dog food which she was not ready for, and it was Purina. She *said* that she was feeding her Esbilac, but I don't believe that. When we were there to pick her up, she said "I wish I had some Esbilac to give you to take home, but I don't have any." Okay, what was she planning on feeding Lily through the night if I hadn't picked her up? She lives out in the country where there isn't much around, so I'm sure no stores were open. And, she said there were no pet stores in her area.

I asked Willow whether Lily was eating when she had her. She said that Lily's mommy was rejecting her and wouldn't feed her. She never told me that until AFTER I had Lily. It would have been something useful for me to know! Also, she was kept separate from the other pups and her mommy in a little cage where she just pooped and peed in a corner. Lily didn't even know how to suck, so I knew she couldn't have nursed from the mother.

Within 5 days of having her, the swelling in her head went way down and her head was close to normal size. She was eating well every two hours, and she was up to 1 lb. I thought she was going to make it. She started walking around and even tried to play a little bit. Unfortunately, after having her for only 10 days, she started to have seizures and they were just too much for her tiny body. I was on the phone with my vet who was making arrangements for her to be hospitalized, and she passed away in my husband's arms.:( A couple weeks later when I took Jake to the vet for his yearly checkup, my vet and I were talking about Lily. I told him that I truly did think she would make it, and I so wish she had. He said "I think she would have made it if she would have had a better start. She was in bad shape when you got her."

I want to make it clear that I'm not mad because Willow sold me a sick puppy. I KNEW what I was getting into. But, I was upset about the things she neglected to tell me until AFTER I got Lily. I was extremely mad about Lily being neglected. I had her for 10 days, and let me tell you, I barely had time for anything else. Taking care of her to get her as healthy as possible was a full-time job for me. So, I know that she wasn't caring for her properly because she was always on the internet, or she was out shopping and doing whatever she wanted while poor little Lily was dying.

I did what I did for Lily and nothing else. I don't regret it, I don't care what I paid for her, none of that matters. I didn't bother to even tell her what I thought because none of it would have made any difference. Lily was gone and nothing would bring her back. I couldn't even deal with talking about it to her, so I didn't. At the time, I was so depressed and sleep deprived that I just couldn't face it. But, I am also the one who made sure that Sugar's Mom knew the conditions of Willow's house. Willow had told me that she was buying a female yorkie with championship lines. She wouldn't tell me who she was buying the pup from, but I found out. I was so worried about that puppy going into those conditions, and Willow had told my husband and I that she still planned on breeding her, even though she had a hernia. I knew that she was being sold with limited registration, and I knew that Sugar's Mom didn't know that Willow planned to breed her. Willow told me that her vet said she could still be bred once the hernia was fixed. She bragged about how she was getting a dog with championship lines for a very reasonable price. So, if Willow wants to know why the sale was stopped.....I'm the one she can complain to. I tried to do things as quietly and discretely as possible because I didn't want to cause problems or drama on YT.

I tried to give Willow every chance I could. I felt sorry for her in alot of ways. I am very sympathetic toward people and animals who need help. My husband always tells me "you can't save them all". When she was trying to get a YT train together to get one of her pups to Texas, I told her I wanted to help with gas money. I mailed her $25 cash (not alot, but at least a little help) and then didn't hear from her. Then, she PMd me about something else and I asked her if she got the money I sent. She said no and wondered if it got lost and even said that maybe her 19-year-old niece who was staying with her took it. I told her to let me know if it came the next day. She said she would definitely email me the next day to tell me if it came. I never heard another word about the money, so again, I let it go. But, I swore I'd never try to help her in any way again. Last thing I heard, she emailed me to say she was moving to Colorado. I don't believe it, but that's because she has told so many people so many lies that I just automatically don't believe her anymore. I'm just so done with her.

That's my story, and every word of it is the truth. I would never make things up about someone for any reason.

Janell, I'm here if you ever need me, my friend!

Originally Posted by Tink's Mom (Post 1478140)

I'm so embarrassed and ashamed. I don't even know what to say to any of you. I'm sure many of you know that I bought one of Alycia's "mix" pups for my daughter. We got a YT train to take it to her in Texas. Another YT friend bought one of her other pups. She stayed with me on the way back to her home and told me about the condition of the pups. She met Alycia in Ohio at a McDonalds on their way to Tennessee to meet PepeMint. They had no food or water, the pups were dirty and stunk, and they had flea bites. I told Alycia at the time that I would not post on YT about their condition but I chewed her out royally and told her if she intended to breed she'd better get her act together. I was so disappointed in her because she made promises to me that she did not keep. Besides the money for the pup, I sent her $100 for gas and incidentals for the trip to Tennessee. I felt that since they had nothing, I could make the trip a little easier for them. She told me that they were using the money from the pups for this vacation trip (car rental etc) and for a downpayment on a stud dog from another YT member. She also told me she "gave" Lilly to Love my Jake (I'm sorry I don't know your name). I was very angry when I found out that she took money from you.

So now that I realize the extent of her dishonesty, I am going back on my word to not post on YT about the pup's condition - you all already know about her living conditions, so I'm not telling you anything new. Someone did PM me that I should reconsider buying the pup, but the money had already been sent and spent and my daughter was so excited about getting little Maya. We didn't realize Alycia's past was so dishonest.

I befriended Alycia during the "blanket/treats" problems she was having and thought I had met a young woman who needed some counsel and mentoring. I spent hours and hours IMing with her, listening to her struggles and offering advice. The distressing thing for me here is that she used my deep faith in God to foster a friendship based on lies. I'm horribly disappointed in her and shocked that she would treat other this way when the concept I had of her was a young mother who through no fault of her own was living in tough financial circumstances. She kept assuring me that both she and her husband were looking for work.

Enough, I'm not saying anything helpful here. I just wanted to try to explain my actions and apologize for enabling Alycia to make money and then spend what should have rightfully been yours. I'm very sorry.

Originally Posted by wemple2 (Post 1478256)

I personally think Alycia is the one and only person to be embarrassed, ashamed or sorry. If she has any conscience what so ever, she will make this right with everyone...including God.

Originally Posted by wemple2 (Post 1478256)

I personally think Alycia is the one and only person to be embarrassed, ashamed or sorry. If she has any conscience what so ever, she will make this right with everyone...including God.

Originally Posted by Tink's Mom (Post 1478140)

I'm so embarrassed and ashamed. I don't even know what to say to any of you. I'm sure many of you know that I bought one of Alycia's "mix" pups for my daughter. We got a YT train to take it to her in Texas. Another YT friend bought one of her other pups. She stayed with me on the way back to her home and told me about the condition of the pups. She met Alycia in Ohio at a McDonalds on their way to Tennessee to meet PepeMint. They had no food or water, the pups were dirty and stunk, and they had flea bites. I told Alycia at the time that I would not post on YT about their condition but I chewed her out royally and told her if she intended to breed she'd better get her act together. I was so disappointed in her because she made promises to me that she did not keep. Besides the money for the pup, I sent her $100 for gas and incidentals for the trip to Tennessee. I felt that since they had nothing, I could make the trip a little easier for them. She told me that they were using the money from the pups for this vacation trip (car rental etc) and for a downpayment on a stud dog from another YT member. She also told me she "gave" Lilly to Love my Jake (I'm sorry I don't know your name). I was very angry when I found out that she took money from you.

So now that I realize the extent of her dishonesty, I am going back on my word to not post on YT about the pup's condition - you all already know about her living conditions, so I'm not telling you anything new. Someone did PM me that I should reconsider buying the pup, but the money had already been sent and spent and my daughter was so excited about getting little Maya. We didn't realize Alycia's past was so dishonest.

I befriended Alycia during the "blanket/treats" problems she was having and thought I had met a young woman who needed some counsel and mentoring. I spent hours and hours IMing with her, listening to her struggles and offering advice. The distressing thing for me here is that she used my deep faith in God to foster a friendship based on lies. I'm horribly disappointed in her and shocked that she would treat other this way when the concept I had of her was a young mother who through no fault of her own was living in tough financial circumstances. She kept assuring me that both she and her husband were looking for work.

Enough, I'm not saying anything helpful here. I just wanted to try to explain my actions and apologize for enabling Alycia to make money and then spend what should have rightfully been yours. I'm very sorry.

Originally Posted by wemple2 (Post 1478256)

I personally think Alycia is the one and only person to be embarrassed, ashamed or sorry. If she has any conscience what so ever, she will make this right with everyone...including God.

Originally Posted by mypreciouspups (Post 1478353)

I do not know any of you and yet, this is so upsetting to read, how could anyone be so nasty to people who cared for her, did not expose her earlier..

pooh's mum

Originally Posted by pepe mint (Post 1478190)

First, let me say, I have not read any of the other replies here, but wanted to add my own.

When I knew Alycia was needing someone to take a puppy to Texas, I immediately volunteered because I was going there anyway at the same time frame. I was more than happy to do it. At the same time, I also bought one of her puppies from her as a birthday gift to one of my good friends. So....the trip to TN to deliver a pup was actually to deliver 2 pups. That's $600 that she got for the 2 dogs, one trip to TN, where she also has family (or her husband has family) and she ended up taking her time getting back home. So clearly the money was not too big of an issue or she would have gotten back home so she could get to work...or whatever her family does to make money :confused: :confused: from what i understand....she took quite the little "vacation time" during this trip. also keep in mind that i offered to meet her part way on her trip down to keep her from having to drive all the way. she wouldn't hear of it because she had family she could stay with. so...again...no hotel fees for her. so the money she got for these pups was HARDLY exhausted on getting them to TN like she wants everyone to believe.

during the days that I had the pup, my house became nearly infested with fleas!! Thankfully, I was able to get the puppy cleaned up and flea-less for his new home. but for months after, I was battling trying to get the fleas out of my house. I have 3 dogs and a small child who has LOTS of stuffed animals and such....it was a nightmare. She delivered 2 puppies to my house that were covered in sores. when questioned about it, she said she saw "a flea" on one of the pups and got them all treated. that the sores were from scratching. let me just say...i mentioned earlier that my house had become "nearly infested" with fleas and my dogs never got a single sore. this tells me these pups had fleas for a loooong time. either that...or their living conditions were so bad that the sores were from something else. let me not forget to mention that when she got the pups out of the crate in the car, they were covered in pee and poop.

let me just rant and rave about her trip here for a minute....
she was several hours late getting here. me and my friend both waited...along with another yt'er...for her to show up. i had my birthday party that night and needed to clean house and shop for the party. The people were scheduled to start showing up 2 hours after she got here!!!!!!!!! so when she got here, i was kinda getting nervous thinking that I was not going to have time to do all that i needed to do...plus preparing the food and everything. it was just very stressful all around. well, she was here about an hour, then kept saying they needed to leave because her husband was tired. but he wanted to stop at a bass pro shop on their way out. i told her how to get there, then offered her a purse to carry her dog in the mall in. so they left, she was crying, saying she was going to miss the puppies. it was kinda sad, actually.

well, a few days later, i catch wind of a post she made on another forum about how rude i was, and that all i cared about was taking her pups away from her and getting her out of my house :eek: :eek: :eek: she bashed me up one side and back down another. i was soooo ticked. i called her out on it. i told her that she had a lot of nerve. and on top of acting like that....for her to bring puppies in the condition she brought them in was just completely uncalled for. in fact, the new owners of a couple of her puppies told her the same thing. yet she could simply point her finger at me, bash me on other forums, and act like i was the bad one here. blew my mind. i was COMPLETELY hospitable, even tho i was very pressed for time because of her tardiness. had she been here on time, we could have had hours of time to chit chat...and even tho that wasn't the case...i NEVER pushed her out of my house or made her feel like she had to leave. she indicated she needed to go.

i just think her integrity leaves a lot to be desired. i have read that she owes a lot of people bows and such that she has taken money for but never delivered. i just don't get it.

i fully understand falling on hard times. but i do not understand how you can take money from people, take "hand outs" all the time, and still sleep at night knowing you have screwed so many people over.

i feel sorry for her dogs...and her children. i really do.

sorry this is so long...but i want you to know that you are not alone in your angers and frustrations!!! i think many of us feel them right along with you. i'm sorry she took so much of your money!!! that is just not right at all. i have had "friends" do that to me and i know exactly how you feel.

hugs....

Originally Posted by mypreciouspups (Post 1478503)

Originally Posted by mypreciouspups
I do not know any of you and yet, this is so upsetting to read, how could anyone be so nasty to people who cared for her, did not expose her earlier..

pooh's mum

Oops,

I hope that was not taken wrong..I was just trying to say, that from what it sounds like, she was given many chances by many people before anyone said anything on Yt.

pooh's mum

Originally Posted by mypreciouspups (Post 1478503)

I hope that was not taken wrong..I was just trying to say, that from what it sounds like, she was given many chances by many people before anyone said anything on Yt.

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 1478548)

Wait a second! I remember very vividly when she came to YT and was begging for help with Willow's litter. Even then, things seemed fishy and didn't add up--she seemed completely inexperienced due to the questions she asked, had talked about how she cross bred dogs simply because her father had an available, willing stud and got upset when she didn't get the answers she wanted. I remember that a few members (myself included) mentioned this and questioned her and got SLAMMED for it! :( I even apologized to her just to ease the tension. Too bad this person had to actually take advantage of people before her shady nature could be mentioned. Maybe no one brought it up because they were afraid of getting the same type of reaction.:rolleyes: Gosh, I wish I could find those threads...

Originally Posted by YorkieShadow (Post 1478517)

Perhaps people SHOULD speak up quicker???

Oh No Hun you said nothing wrong, I think Monday was just saying if people would of spoke up sooner she might of not been trusted like she was.