Janell I am so sorry girl, I was hoping by now she was paying you back...it really sucks when people do this...your a good person and your heart was in the right place, I really believe God will bless you and you will get it back somehow, probably not from Willow, but God will take care of you...I know this cause it has happen to me, but you live and learn and get back up and go forward...If you ever hear from her tell her to give you your money and the rest of us want our bows....:D

Wow im so sorry! What a scammer she is, i hope you can get the money back! And to think i almost bought belly bands from her once, good thing i didn't! You are such a good person for doing that.

So sorry this has happened to you. I ordered some bows from her a while back too and never received it so I opened a claim on paypal and finially got it back. I was mad about $10 but wow $600!!!!

Janell,
I just caught up on your post and the previous post from Willow that started it all. I am very sorry to hear of what happened to you. Please remember there are more good people in the world than bad apples and to keep faith.
The world is a a brighter place with caring people like you in it.

I am sorry this happened to you. That was very generous of you to loan her the money. To be honest, I am not surprised she did this to you, I've read worse that she has done. I know there are two sides to every story but I did not believe her side and thought what she did was awful. Then, she comes on here and people don't know and are so kind to her. :mad:
I hope you go after her, maybe it will stop her from hurting others.

Okay, I just did a little research to refresh my mind of exactly who she is. So she is the one that had the maltese/yorkie mix puppies including Maya that Pepemint brought to Texas and gave to Judy in Waco to take to Austin? So did Mandy just meetup with Willow or did she actually go to her house to get Maya? Just curious how y'all know she doesn't have running water and her living conditions. I can't imagine living in filth and without running water but being able to afford a computer and internet access....and on top of that participate in GEs? Like a ton of her posts are about participating in past GEs.. She seemed like such a normal, legitimate person...and maybe she was at one time I guess....just can't believe she's ended up scamming people like this :thumbdown

I'd would say I'm shocked that this happened, but.....
I remember when she joined here--right as Willow's litter came about and I remember the fuss that stirred up. It was clear then that the well-being of her dogs was never a concern of hers, so it doesn't shock me in the least.
I hope that she has not conned a breeder into considering her or placing one of their pups with her. :(

I am very sorry that she pulled one over on you. You seem to be in good company though--from reading through this thread, it seems like you are not the only one she got the best of.

To answer your question, how do people know? A couple of members have been to her house and saw the filth and that she seemed to think it was normal. Jan didn't mention that she had chickens living in the house at night. All these things are why I cancelled my sale to her. she is not only a scammer but lies as well. she was writing everyone on here asking them to write me and see if they could find out why I changed my mind after i had 'begged' her to take my puppy. I don't have to 'beg anyone to take my puppies. she had wanted one ever since I have had puppies to sell and when i had the little girl with the hernia that I soldd at a reduced price, she jumped on it . I also had no idea she was intending to breed her hernia and all even with my limited registration until after the deal was cancelled. so many good YT members warned me and I am so thankful my baby didn't end up with her. BTW, last I heard she was moving to Coloraddo. anyway, that is what she posted on another board.

WTG on finding out the truth about her :thumbup: I just can not understand not paying to have running water though...yuck yuck yuck...but paying for internet and puppies...just wierd

Janell, you already know how I feel about this situation, and I am behind you 100%. I know for a fact that Janell is telling the truth, so I will tell my story now. I apologize in advance for it being long.

I am the one who bought little baby Lily from Willow. When I first learned of Willow having puppies, she told me that one of the girls was blind. She said she didn't know until after her eyes opened. She did not take her to the vet to see exactly what is wrong until I asked her to. I had agreed to buy Lily for $100. I thought Alycia and I were friends, and I thought she was a legitimate, honest person at first. But, after knowing her for awhile, alot of things just didn't add up with her. I knew about her money situation, so my thing was to try to help Lily, but I wanted to know exactly what was wrong with her first. I wanted to know what to expect. She took her to the vet, and he said she had Hydrocephalus. I don't know how the vet didn't recognize it from the beginning (when she got tail docked) because Lily's head was very large, she was behind in development, and she was not growing normally.

One evening I was home from work with whiplash, and she called me, practically hysterical. She said she thought Lily was much worse, and she didn't know what to do. I offered to just come and get her, even though she was only 5 weeks old. She said when she nursed, her tummy didn't seem full, so I thought I could at least be able to get some nurishment into her. I wanted to get her to my own vet. So, my husband and I drove 2 1/2 hours to get Lily. Willow warned me before I got there that her house was "a mess". She said they have no running water because they couldn't afford to have a well put in. What we saw once we got there was more than just a mess. It made me sick to think of her four small children living under those conditions. With baby chickens and turkeys in a box in the living room, I'm surprised that the puppies didn't get parvo. Her trailer was filthy, and all the dogs were dirty and matted. The puppies were adorable, but they were all running around peeing and pooping wherever they wanted. I never saw a single pee pad there. They were just going on the carpet. So, for those of you on YT that bought one of these puppies, if you had a hard time getting them to use a pee pad, I'm not surprised at all. I wanted to just scoop up the dogs and puppies and take them all.

I knew that Lily was sick, and I knew what I was getting into. I do not blame Willow at all for that. But, I didn't know just how bad Lily's condition was until I actually saw her. She was disgustingly filthy and smelled bad. Her head was very large, she seemed lethargic to me. She could barely hold her head up. I weighed her when we got home. She weighed 13 oz. She could not walk on her own, although I was told by Willow that she was playing with the other pups. There's no way that's true. I had to feed her puppy Esbilac with a pet bottle, she still had no teeth. She acted like she was starving, and I told my husband I thought she was malnurished.

I took Lily to the vet the next day, and he confirmed what I thought. He put her on an IV for a couple hours to get her re-hydrated. He told me to feed her every two hours around the clock. Willow was feeding her dog food which she was not ready for, and it was Purina. She *said* that she was feeding her Esbilac, but I don't believe that. When we were there to pick her up, she said "I wish I had some Esbilac to give you to take home, but I don't have any." Okay, what was she planning on feeding Lily through the night if I hadn't picked her up? She lives out in the country where there isn't much around, so I'm sure no stores were open. And, she said there were no pet stores in her area.

I asked Willow whether Lily was eating when she had her. She said that Lily's mommy was rejecting her and wouldn't feed her. She never told me that until AFTER I had Lily. It would have been something useful for me to know! Also, she was kept separate from the other pups and her mommy in a little cage where she just pooped and peed in a corner. Lily didn't even know how to suck, so I knew she couldn't have nursed from the mother.

Within 5 days of having her, the swelling in her head went way down and her head was close to normal size. She was eating well every two hours, and she was up to 1 lb. I thought she was going to make it. She started walking around and even tried to play a little bit. Unfortunately, after having her for only 10 days, she started to have seizures and they were just too much for her tiny body. I was on the phone with my vet who was making arrangements for her to be hospitalized, and she passed away in my husband's arms.:( A couple weeks later when I took Jake to the vet for his yearly checkup, my vet and I were talking about Lily. I told him that I truly did think she would make it, and I so wish she had. He said "I think she would have made it if she would have had a better start. She was in bad shape when you got her."

I want to make it clear that I'm not mad because Willow sold me a sick puppy. I KNEW what I was getting into. But, I was upset about the things she neglected to tell me until AFTER I got Lily. I was extremely mad about Lily being neglected. I had her for 10 days, and let me tell you, I barely had time for anything else. Taking care of her to get her as healthy as possible was a full-time job for me. So, I know that she wasn't caring for her properly because she was always on the internet, or she was out shopping and doing whatever she wanted while poor little Lily was dying.

I did what I did for Lily and nothing else. I don't regret it, I don't care what I paid for her, none of that matters. I didn't bother to even tell her what I thought because none of it would have made any difference. Lily was gone and nothing would bring her back. I couldn't even deal with talking about it to her, so I didn't. At the time, I was so depressed and sleep deprived that I just couldn't face it. But, I am also the one who made sure that Sugar's Mom knew the conditions of Willow's house. Willow had told me that she was buying a female yorkie with championship lines. She wouldn't tell me who she was buying the pup from, but I found out. I was so worried about that puppy going into those conditions, and Willow had told my husband and I that she still planned on breeding her, even though she had a hernia. I knew that she was being sold with limited registration, and I knew that Sugar's Mom didn't know that Willow planned to breed her. Willow told me that her vet said she could still be bred once the hernia was fixed. She bragged about how she was getting a dog with championship lines for a very reasonable price. So, if Willow wants to know why the sale was stopped.....I'm the one she can complain to. I tried to do things as quietly and discretely as possible because I didn't want to cause problems or drama on YT.

I tried to give Willow every chance I could. I felt sorry for her in alot of ways. I am very sympathetic toward people and animals who need help. My husband always tells me "you can't save them all". When she was trying to get a YT train together to get one of her pups to Texas, I told her I wanted to help with gas money. I mailed her $25 cash (not alot, but at least a little help) and then didn't hear from her. Then, she PMd me about something else and I asked her if she got the money I sent. She said no and wondered if it got lost and even said that maybe her 19-year-old niece who was staying with her took it. I told her to let me know if it came the next day. She said she would definitely email me the next day to tell me if it came. I never heard another word about the money, so again, I let it go. But, I swore I'd never try to help her in any way again. Last thing I heard, she emailed me to say she was moving to Colorado. I don't believe it, but that's because she has told so many people so many lies that I just automatically don't believe her anymore. I'm just so done with her.

That's my story, and every word of it is the truth. I would never make things up about someone for any reason.

Janell, I'm here if you ever need me, my friend!

I am so sorry that she did that to you. With her having 4 children and fur babies can she be turned in for child negelate?
I am so happy that she didn't get the new pup to.

I like the idea of small claims court too....
Something needs to done about her.

You are not the only one that told me so don't take all the blame. SEVERAL people pm'd me.

If it was not already done, someone involved in the situation should call social services on the quality of the home that her children are living in. I can understand not having money, but the filth...:mad:

That is so sad. I'm sorry I can understand having a lack of money and hard times -- most everyone has experienced that on some level, but to choose the internet and breeding and who knows what else over running water for her family is just neglect. I can't believe that.

I thought I remembered her being the one you got Lilly from but I wasn't positive. It's wonderful all you did for little Lilly, and I'm so sorry she didn't make it :( I'm glad you stopped another puppy from entering her home, although I'm sure she'll find some uncaring breeder somewhere who will sell her one. She should be ashamed of herself :thumbdown

This thread has taught me something very special. First and foremost, what an absolutely amazing group of people belong to Yorkie Talk. Each and every one of you, I am proud to call friend.

This thread was very difficult for me to write, it is not my style to speak poorly of someone on an open forum. But I knew that I should make people aware of what can go horribly wrong when you don’t dot all your Ts. Most of us are so compassionate about our animals, as well as other human beings, at times it is easy to be taken advantage of. But like everything in life, there will a few hic-ups, and as long as we learn from them all is good in my book.

I appreciate each and every post made, and thank you from the bottom of my heart for all of your support and kind words.

LoveMyJake, so glad you are willing to tell your story. What horrid conditions for sweet furbabies to live in and Willow's children! Lily was fortunate to be with you. So glad you and others kept her from getting another yorkie to breed. How crazy for her to think she can run a home & business like this. Did others on yt buy puppies from her?

I'm just sorry that this happened to anyone.

Wow, this is so dis-heartening. I wish you all the best, and hope that the OP gets the money back. Jakes mommy~ We all know you helped little Lilly out in so many ways! She had more love in that short time than she had ever known before. You are all such great people! I am so happy to know you all!

Wow Iam totally in shock right now, I read every single thread:( I can not beleive how hurtful some can be, Janell I am very sorry you opened your heart to such a awful person, but how were you to know, My heart goes out to you, If she is still a memeber here and reading these posts... Shame on you, how could you, Im glad you posted this, it has opened my eyes to maybe not trust everyone so fast, you just never no:( :(

I am so sad to hear the story about Lily, That poor baby, How could she let her suffer like that. Im so glad you took her and loved her for the time she had left.
There is no excuse for filth, No matter how poor one is, Its just no excuse. If she could aford internet, then she could aford soap and water.I feel so sorry for her children and the other fur-baby's that she has. and sad for the Op in what she did to her. This is why I would never sell a pup of mine to anyone with out meeting and see their living conditions. I dont feel you have to be rich But you have to be a clean and loving person to own my pups.

I'm so sorry you and so many others have been scammed by this person. There is no excuse for that kind of behavior :thumbdown

I agree. Those are not conditions that any child should be living in.:(

Wow, I am speechless! How in the world could she subject her children to that!? I'm pretty sure running water is a requirement for a CO, isn't it? In that case she would be living in an illegal dwelling. I've already posted about how I feel about what she did to Janell but now my heart is breaking for her poor children. She needs to get her priorities straight. Running water comes before computers, internet and yorkies. Willow, if you read this- take care of your children. There is no excuse for what you are doing!:mad:

What a very sad story. I would just like to say what a compassionate person you are to do all you could. You took a very sick puppy and gave her care and most importantly, love. Although poor Lily did not have much time here, she left knowing she was in the loving arms of people who truly cared for her.

Argh! I just read on another thread that she was a member of a mommy forum?! A MOMMY forum?!!!!:eek: Mommies provide a safe, clean home for their children. Mommies don't make their babies live with farm animals in filth with no running water while they play on the computer and buy dogs.:thumbdown

You have no idea what a Saint Selina (Jake's mommy) is in so many ways. She is the one with a true heart of gold. She did everything possible for little Lily, and more........

Janell, you also know how I feel about this situation, and I'm behind you 100%. You have been MORE than patient with this woman and she has done nothing to clear her name. So it's about time that everyone knows the true Alycia. When that whole Lexi ordeal happened I was behind Alycia b/c I felt so bad for her. Hmmm, God works in mysterious ways and pay backs are a bitch. It's just unfortunate b/c I don't think she will come back here to defend herself. There is not ONE reason anyone should back her up this time, and I think she knows that and will remain disappeared. She frucked up, and the truth deserves to be told.

So Janell, I guess my Coach carrier won't be coming anytime soon. (sigh) But I love you anyway! :D

(Ps. a joke between Janell and I....I asked for a Coach carrier for my birthday, and she said as soon as Alycia gives her her money. Guess I won't hold my breath, huh? :rolleyes: )

Janell, I'm not a saint. I'm just an average person who loves to help people and/or animals in need. I was just trying to help Lily. She was my main priority. She was an innocent baby who was sick and needed help. I tried so hard, but she was just too sick.

YOU, my friend, have a true heart of gold. You also tried to help Willow, and I'm so sorry that she ripped you off. She at least owes you an explanation. I think it's important for the truth to come out. I, for one, actually feel better getting things out in the open. No one ever really knew the whole truth. Now they know.

Thanks to everyone for their kind words. Lily was my little angel. I would have done anything for her, and I miss her terribly.

I followed your desire to take Lily and her story. And you are a saint! You nursed her back to actually have 10 wonderful days in her short life! She went to the rainbow bridge as a happy dog!