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| Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Jersey Shore
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| I hope that you will reconsider taking this puppy home so young. I have a 16 week old pups, who is tiny weighing 1.12 now. Unknowningly, I brought her home with a cough and ear infections. I stayed up 10 straight days, nursing this pup. When they are that tiny or as young as your pup, they CANNOT fight off things that an older bigger pup can. We could have lost Mia, luckily we didn't. I am experienced and although I'm not taking the credit for keeping her alive and getting her better I do feel that, that was a big help. I'm assuming your gf is a new Yorkie Owner. There is a lot to look for and if you miss it something this young can easily die and they are so suseptable to illness at such a tiny young age. Please consider asking him to keep her longer or just walking away from it if he will not. I learned the heard way about buying with your heart and I hope that what I learned can help others to avoid the same traps. Elaine |
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| Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Los Angeles, California, USA
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| Welcome to YT and congrats to you and your girlfriend on your new little one. Sorry if we all sound like a broken record, but your pup should not leave her mom and litter mates before 12 weeks of age. You are doing her a disservice if you don't at least try to talk to your gf and the breeder about this situation. I hope you stick around, there is so much to learn for new yorkie parents.
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| Donating YT 12K Club Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Council Bluffs Iowa
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| Please convince your GF to wait a few more weeks. Many puppies do not even have teeth at 6 weeks, and although they can eat, they should still be nursing. My mothers do not wean their babies until 8 weeks or later. Studies have shown that puppies that stay with their mothers eyond 8 weeks are much more socialized, less fearful, more playful and have learned how to play nice and not to bite people. They are also easier to housebreak if they have been allowed to associate with other dogs. Puppies under 10 weeks do not handle stress well. There are many ailments a puppy can get from being stressed. Stress lowers their immune system and things that every dog carries inactive in their ystem, such as worms, giardiam, coccidia and mange, will become active and cause serious health issues. There is also a huge increase in the risk of hypoclycemia, because dogs do not eat then they are stressed, therefore they cannot be left alone for over 2 to 3 hours at a time or they could die. Please, I know you are anxious to get her, but for her sake, please leave her with her mother for another month. Things will go much smoother and your experience will be fun rather than stressful. Congratulations and good luck. Last edited by JeanieK; 01-10-2011 at 11:11 AM. |
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| Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Toluca Lake, CA
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| Congratulations on the new puppy. What a sweet tiny baby. I do hope for the puppies sake and for your peace of mind that your girlfriend decides to wait a little longer. The little extra time with the mother and siblings will benefit the dog greatly. Your pup will be healthier and better socialized. |
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| YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: NC
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| I've never heard of 6 weeks being a problem, but I don't know much about this kind of thing. Thanks for all of your responses. It is not my girlfriend that wants her home at 6 weeks, that is just the time the breeder told us she would be ready. I'm not sure how much she weighs right now. Her sister has gotten a yorkie from the same breeder and never ran into trouble so I will ask them Last edited by MTC; 01-10-2011 at 01:37 PM. |
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| Senior Yorkie Talker | hi mtc! I saw your post about the little one coming home at 6 weeks, although I am not expert and there are a lot of people here who will give you better advice, I would wait. I got my little Bella 8 weeks and everyone already was telling me how dumb that was. I was mad and irritated butttt they were right, a week later Bella almost died from hypoglycemia, they were about to put her down when I told them I wanted to spend the extra 1500 to save her, luckily she survived but many dont. So please talk to the breeder about keeping her there until at least 10 weeks best being 12. If you have any questions and you do get her early, please ask me anything because I had a tough start with my little 14 ounce Bella @ 8 weeks.
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| www.yorkierescue.com Donating Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Las Vegas & Orange County
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| Six weeks if fine for larger breed dogs, but for toy dogs it is imperative for them to stay with their moms for a minimum of 10 weeks. The fact that the breeder wants the dog picked up by 6 weeks is troubling to say the least. To me it sounds like they want the pups out of there as soon as possible so they don't have to care for them anymore. Most reputable breeders will not release a pup that early, there is so much the pup learns from its mother during the 6-12 week period. Bite inhibition is a big problem if not trained properly. Also, immunities from mothers milk is still working, and if shots administered to the pup too early will negate the immunities from mom and do more harm than good. If the first pup your of your gf's sis went smoothly, I would say that was a very lucky thing. A lot of members here can give you their sad stories about bringing their pups home too early due to the breeders insistance. I'm not trying to be negative, just trying to be helpful and educate. You have to wonder about the type of breeder would say this is ok to release yorkies at 6 weeks. Again, for large breeds, this is not a problem, but for toy breeds it is so important for them to not be taken too early. If they are releasing them this early, iw onder what other things they have skimped on. Does this breeder do any health testing? What is their guarrantee in case the pup gets sick? Please find out as much as you can before you bring this pup home to save yourself from potential heartache.
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| Donating YT 12K Club Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Council Bluffs Iowa
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Waiting until 10 weeks or longer will greatly reduce the risks and the puppy will already be socialized. If you have never seen the difference, then you wouldn't know. But as a breeder, I can tell you there is a huge difference between a 6 week old puppy and a 10 week old one. At 6 weeks my mothers are still very attached to their puppies and they would cry if they were separated. The mother does not even begin to socialize them until they are 8 weeks. At 8 weeks she starts to play with them and scold them if the play too rough. She puts them on their back and teaches them to be submissive. They learn that there is a pecking order and they learn how to be a good pack member. If you have ever watched this you would realize how important this time is. if your breeder has always let them go at 6 weeks, she probably doesn't even know how the mothers interact with themm between 6 and 10 weeks. | |
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| YT Addict | I know it is very exciting and hard to wait but it is well worth the wait. They can have issues when they are that young. They are still learning manners from mom and the siblings that they will carry through life in addition to the obvious health and eating concerns. They are so much fun but I am glad our breeder had us wait until she was a bit older 10 weeks, we were blessed wtih a well socialized puppy that was very healthy and ready to become a part of our busy family. Just be educated it will pay off! |
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| No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kansas City, MO
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| if your breeder pushes pups out at 6 weeks old then you are dealing with a greeder not a breeder. i'm sorry to be harsh but that's the truth. in some states it is illegal to sell a puppy under 10-12 weeks old so check into your states lemon laws too. it wouldn't matter to me how many people got a healthy dog from this breeder the odds are against you here. a pup that cannot handle eating on it's own with no shots and no socialization is a walking disaster waiting to happen. if you pup doesn't get sick it might get hypoglycemia, if it doesn't die from that it may have giardia or parasites, if it survives that it may get distemper or parvo, it might not eat and starve, it might have horrible problems with liver shunts, luxating patellas, costing you literally THOUSANDS in vet bills and surgeries if it lives at all. it will be a biter it will teeth on your bare hands and it will be HARD REALLY HARD to make it stop biting. it won't be able to potty train NOT AT ALL because it's not old enough for bowel control and learning that at this young age. it will whine, it will cry, and it will fight for it's life every day. this is NOT a good breeder, this is a greedy horrible person who wants your money more than they care about the beautiful baby they just helped to create. RUN AWAY FAST and never look back. you are about to make a terrible choice and have been warned by people who most likely made the same choice once before and regretted it and now are trying to tell you not to make the same mistakes...how do i know all this ..... I GOT A PUPPY AT 6 WEEKS OLD!! Stupidest thing i've ever done! |
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| | #26 |
| Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: FL
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| It would actually be illegal in Florida where puppies must be at least 8 weeks old and get a health certificate to be sold. Selling a puppy before that time is a 1st degree misdemeanor here. Not sure what the law is in NC -- some states don't have a law about the age. But a good, ethical, educated breeder will keep toy breeds with their mothers and siblings at least 12 weeks. You have gotten a lot of good advice from others in this thread. I know it is hard to hear something so different from what a local breeder is telling you. The breeder may think she is doing right, but she is not. Way too many health, social, and emotional problems are created by ripping puppies from their litter so young. You want a good healthy start for your GF's puppy. I hope you are able to persuade all concerned that it will be so much better for this puppy to get enough time with momma and sibs. There will be the whole puppy's lifetime to be with your GF -- this is time for its first family. Wishing you all the very best!
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| | #27 |
| YT Addict Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: scappoose, or, USA
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| Good Luck! Happy Puppy Parenting!! |
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| | #28 |
| YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: NC
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| thanks! As for all of you who say this isn't a good breeder if she lets them go that early, she has been breeding for 10+ years and has never had a problem with her puppies. Ellie is eating food already, and she said she is doing very well. She has already had her first round of shots, tail docked, and she just went in for a checkup last week. |
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| Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Los Angeles, California, USA
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