How long?

[yorkie_mama22]

Originally Posted by crystalsmom

I read today on another thread that you are thinking of breeding your bull terrier.

I would give that alot of thought.

I don't really see how this needs to be brought up? I am assuming you are bringing this up because if I were to breed my bully that I would have bully puppies running around and it would be not safe? If so, that is a valid point, this is also why I said I was looking into it and why I was asking in general how long people waited and if they ever got another dog. I have no plans to get a new dog any time soon. I only got curious and was asking because I've been asked and didn't have an answer.

[yorkie_mama22]

Originally Posted by chandracz

You are doing a great job and it sounds like you really have done your research on this. It truly does not sound like a vicious attack to me at all, how can it be when it was a puppy?! Go with your gut and with what feels right, that's all that Stormy would've have wanted of you! xxxxx

Thank you for being understanding and not jumping to conclusions.

[QuickSilver]

I don't think anyone meant to say you are a bad owner. Accidents do happen, and everyone makes mistakes, including all members of YT. I think a lot of people on YT loved Stormy, from a distance of course.

Just FYI, I have an emergency medical fund of several thousand dollars, because if heaven forbid, Thor has a major issue, that's what it's going to take. I know you said you are thinking of breeding your bully. Have you considered how much it could cost if something went wrong and she needed an emergency c-section, or one of the pups was very sick? I am thinking of getting another dog, and if/when I do, I will double the emergency fund.

Stormy did have a lot of bad luck. This is not your fault, but it is something I'd be worrying about myself. Was Stormy just cursed? If, say, lightning struck one of my dogs and a swarm of locusts carried away the other, I'd think seriously about whether another dog was right for me in that time, in that place, not because I believe I control lightning and plagues, but because I would be worried about something happening to another dog. What can you change to be sure that another dog will be safe?

I am not trying to be unkind. I know you must be terribly sad right now, and I don't want to make you feel worse. I hope that this post will help you make the right decision for you, your pets and your family.

[rjones]

I lost my 2.5yr old lh mini dachshund, Sophie in March, the day before my bday and it was a tragedy. I still break down when I see a dog similar to her or any lh dachshund for that matter...She was my princess, I am 25 and she was my kid....I still am grieving but I took the plunge and got my Kingston in May, I work full-time and attend grad school and literally my only time frame to get a puppy was May-July, so I got Kingston in May, and the plus side is he goes to work with me when I have slow days so it's really nice...He now is close to 18wks and such a ham. I still am grieving and I know that I am on guard as to letting him fully in, I have only taken pics when I first got him and thats all I have...I think you just learn to deal with the lose and it never fully goes away, just that with time it will heal the wounds. I don't know when I will be ready for another for now one is nice/being able to take everywhere and only worrying about Kingston

[yorkie_mama22]

Originally Posted by QuickSilver

I don't think anyone meant to say you are a bad owner. Accidents do happen, and everyone makes mistakes, including all members of YT. I think a lot of people on YT loved Stormy, from a distance of course.

Just FYI, I have an emergency medical fund of several thousand dollars, because if heaven forbid, Thor has a major issue, that's what it's going to take. I know you said you are thinking of breeding your bully. Have you considered how much it could cost if something went wrong and she needed an emergency c-section, or one of the pups was very sick? I am thinking of getting another dog, and if/when I do, I will double the emergency fund.

Stormy did have a lot of bad luck. This is not your fault, but it is something I'd be worrying about myself. Was Stormy just cursed? If, say, lightning struck one of my dogs and a swarm of locusts carried away the other, I'd think seriously about whether another dog was right for me in that time, in that place, not because I believe I control lightning and plagues, but because I would be worried about something happening to another dog. What can you change to be sure that another dog will be safe?

I am not trying to be unkind. I know you must be terribly sad right now, and I don't want to make you feel worse. I hope that this post will help you make the right decision for you, your pets and your family.

No your post is not making me sad but I feel like the point is being missed here not just by you but by some others and that is that I have stated several times I AM NOT LOOKING INTO GETTING ANOTHER DOG/YORKIE ANY TIME SOON. I want to make that clear, I don't feel that at this point in time another dog is a good idea at all. I am grieving still and very hurt, I don't feel comfortable bringing another dog yet and like I said not sure WHEN even. I was just asking what other people did after their pet died.

Yes I have looked into the costs, a c section is possible and costs 1,000 here. No I don't have insurance for her yet, looking into it. Secondly no I don't have a emergency fund. I have a credit card as well as family members who I could borrow $$ from in time of an emergency.

I've already mentioned what I can do to make sure another dog is safe and that is going to get all the training I can to ensure she is properly trained AND also wait until she has matured. If I do go ahead and breed her, which isn't going to be for some time as she is still too young, I probably then wouldn't get a second dog, I'd have pups to focus on. But since she can't be bred for quite some time we still have time to save. Once we decide this is what we want to do with her we will start putting money aside for emergency c-section, vet costs during pregnancy and for the pups, I won't breed unless I have that money aside, it wouldn't be a wise decision.

[mjharpst]

I just want to feed some positive into this thread. I think that you have stated from the beginning that you are not interested in adding right at this moment. I think that you are really making the right choices and taking responsibility for your Bull Terrier in training and not rehoming because of an accident. I think that time will tell what will work for your family and this might have just been a way to open you up to a whole new breed as you seem interested in her and helping her in maturing and training and have done your research. I also want to say I am not one of those people who think they can only have a yorkie LOL I do admire the breed and have become more interested with them. Good luck in all your endeavors and the road ahead for training your girl!

[celstu1]

Originally Posted by yorkie_mama22

No your post is not making me sad but I feel like the point is being missed here not just by you but by some others and that is that I have stated several times I AM NOT LOOKING INTO GETTING ANOTHER DOG/YORKIE ANY TIME SOON. I want to make that clear, I don't feel that at this point in time another dog is a good idea at all. I am grieving still and very hurt, I don't feel comfortable bringing another dog yet and like I said not sure WHEN even. I was just asking what other people did after their pet died.

Yes I have looked into the costs, a c section is possible and costs 1,000 here. No I don't have insurance for her yet, looking into it. Secondly no I don't have a emergency fund. I have a credit card as well as family members who I could borrow $$ from in time of an emergency.

I've already mentioned what I can do to make sure another dog is safe and that is going to get all the training I can to ensure she is properly trained AND also wait until she has matured. If I do go ahead and breed her, which isn't going to be for some time as she is still too young, I probably then wouldn't get a second dog, I'd have pups to focus on. But since she can't be bred for quite some time we still have time to save. Once we decide this is what we want to do with her we will start putting money aside for emergency c-section, vet costs during pregnancy and for the pups, I won't breed unless I have that money aside, it wouldn't be a wise decision.

This sounds great! All the right steps to ensure that your dog, possible future pups and your family are taken care of.

I never meant to offend you, please understand that Stormy and her story actually emotionally affected some people here. I followed her story, go back to your old posts... I responded to a majority of them. The death of Stormy affected me emotionally. My heart went out to her, seems she went through so much and then to have this happen just seemed sooo unfair to that poor baby. I want to share my grief with you a little bit because I want you to know my words to you were not meant to offend. My heart broke when I read those words. I cried, real true tears, for your Stormy.

My Stuart died when he was almost 5 months old. None of the vet care in the world could have saved him. He somehow, somewhere got into rat poison, never at my house, but I have a suspicion that my neighbor was using it around his garden which was against the fence adjacent to my yard. I could not have known. It was an accident. My first major trauma with a dog. My boys now live in a bubble. LOL I don't think you are a bad mom AT ALL. I know you loved Stormy very much. I do think you need more experience with smaller dogs. That is not a negative statement, nor an attack on you in any way. When you asked about how long some people waited before getting another pup, I think a couple people here felt that you should think twice about getting another yorkie when you have another larger breed in your home who is a puppy and who plays rough right now, that it might not be a safe situation with a pup. I am relieved to hear that you are looking into training for this bullie pup, thats wonderful!!

[yorkie_mama22]

Originally Posted by celstu1

This sounds great! All the right steps to ensure that your dog, possible future pups and your family are taken care of.

I never meant to offend you, please understand that Stormy and her story actually emotionally affected some people here. I followed her story, go back to your old posts... I responded to a majority of them. The death of Stormy affected me emotionally. My heart went out to her, seems she went through so much and then to have this happen just seemed sooo unfair to that poor baby. I want to share my grief with you a little bit because I want you to know my words to you were not meant to offend. My heart broke when I read those words. I cried, real true tears, for your Stormy.

My Stuart died when he was almost 5 months old. None of the vet care in the world could have saved him. He somehow, somewhere got into rat poison, never at my house, but I have a suspicion that my neighbor was using it around his garden which was against the fence adjacent to my yard. I could not have known. It was an accident. My first major trauma with a dog. My boys now live in a bubble. LOL I don't think you are a bad mom AT ALL. I know you loved Stormy very much. I do think you need more experience with smaller dogs. That is not a negative statement, nor an attack on you in any way. When you asked about how long some people waited before getting another pup, I think a couple people here felt that you should think twice about getting another yorkie when you have another larger breed in your home who is a puppy and who plays rough right now, that it might not be a safe situation with a pup. I am relieved to hear that you are looking into training for this bullie pup, thats wonderful!!

The only way to get experience with small dogs is to own small dogs. Yes I have owned larger dogs in the past only but I also owned a small dog for 10 months without ONE issue. She was healthy and well taken care off, my daughter was even younger then she is now and things were fine except that she would not stop going to the bathroom in my daughters room, even with a closed door she managed to get in some how and go to the bathroom. I rehomed her it was too much for me at the time.

TO be honest and 100% with you I am not even sure that my bullie even TOUCHED Stormy. After much discussion about the incident and step by step what happen it doesn't seem that my bullie bit her, I am not in denial and I am not sticking up for this dog, it just doesn't add up. When I came on here and posted I was grieving and distraught. I only knew what I saw and that was that my dog was dead! I didn't ask for details I was screaming, yelling, crying. You can only imagine what my household was like. It really seems like Stormy may of had a seizure or even a stroke. The way my fiancee describes how he found her, her position, her body, how she was acting is EXACTLY what she was like when she had a seizure, TWICE in one night back in Nov. The vet NEVER figured out what it was and it was put on the backburner because it never happen again. Last Monday I was gone for a few hours and the whole weekend I was at work from 10am til 12pm. I didn't bring her to work that weekend because my daughter had been crying about me leaving and I thought I'd let her stay home because they get along good. For all I know she may of been overwhelmed and stressed out. I started working part-time and brought her in on the weekends with me. The schedule was changed, I don't know if she may of had an undiagnosed issue. Who knows. To blame this dog for something that noone witnessed is not fair. I regret that I did not bring her in for an autospy. It just doesn't all add up to me. Maybe they were playing and something may of occured, it just so may of been this but I truly don't know and can't say that this dog hurt her in anyway for all we know she may of had a seizure. I don't want to sound like I am making up excuses, I am not, that is the last thing I would do. If I knew in my heart 100% that my bullie hurt her on purpose I wouldn't deny it especially if it was a vicious attack she would be GONE! But this dog is VERY loving, she has been affected by this as well for all I know she may of been trying to help Stormy, she loved Stormy VERY MUCH, they did alot of things together and got along good, yes my dog would try to play rough but every time that would happen Stormy would growl at her and she would leave her alone. It just doesn't make sense.

Because this has even happen gives NOBODY a right to tell me what kind of dog I can own or not, even if I have a big dog here, I see big and small dogs together ALL the time, because someone on here may not agree with it isn't there business really.

I know Stormy touched alot of peoples lives, and she was here for a reason, if her story didn't touch anyone then there is something wrong with them. She was the sweetest dog ever and I would love to keep her memory alive and fight for all the poor abused, mistreated animals in the world and help fight against puppymills since this is where she came from. we really don't know what type of other problems she may of had. I know it may sound like I am crazy or making up excuses but I really am not, I love dogs, I love all animals! ESPECIALLY my Stormy. Everything happens for a reason and I feel what happen, happen because God needed her to come home at the best possible time when she was feeling well and healthy. My WHOLE entire family went through so much heartache, and sleepless nights with her my WHOLE family, everyone is devastated but noone blames my other dog and nobody has said I shouldn't known another yorkie. I come here for support and a shoulder to cry on because you all understand, or so I hoped you would. some may think I am a bad owner, whatever thats fine.

I made this post to just inquire how long people waited, I was in no way saying i was ready to get a new dog and EVEN if I was that is NOONES business! People on here should stop jumping on other people because they don't agree with something, theres more civil ways to handle that, theres nicer ways to tell someone your opinion. I hope I dont sound rude or anything but I am simply stating how I feel. And I feel that I am a pretty damn good owner and if I want another yorkie tomorrow, next week, next year or NEVER is MY DECISION! please don't feel offended but how would you feel someone to tell you you need more experience with yorkies, theres SO MANY people who come on and are first time owners!!!!

[CouversMom]

Originally Posted by yorkie_mama22

The only way to get experience with small dogs is to own small dogs. Yes I have owned larger dogs in the past only but I also owned a small dog for 10 months without ONE issue. She was healthy and well taken care off, my daughter was even younger then she is now and things were fine except that she would not stop going to the bathroom in my daughters room, even with a closed door she managed to get in some how and go to the bathroom. I rehomed her it was too much for me at the time.

TO be honest and 100% with you I am not even sure that my bullie even TOUCHED Stormy. After much discussion about the incident and step by step what happen it doesn't seem that my bullie bit her, I am not in denial and I am not sticking up for this dog, it just doesn't add up. When I came on here and posted I was grieving and distraught. I only knew what I saw and that was that my dog was dead! I didn't ask for details I was screaming, yelling, crying. You can only imagine what my household was like. It really seems like Stormy may of had a seizure or even a stroke. The way my fiancee describes how he found her, her position, her body, how she was acting is EXACTLY what she was like when she had a seizure, TWICE in one night back in Nov. The vet NEVER figured out what it was and it was put on the backburner because it never happen again. Last Monday I was gone for a few hours and the whole weekend I was at work from 10am til 12pm. I didn't bring her to work that weekend because my daughter had been crying about me leaving and I thought I'd let her stay home because they get along good. For all I know she may of been overwhelmed and stressed out. I started working part-time and brought her in on the weekends with me. The schedule was changed, I don't know if she may of had an undiagnosed issue. Who knows. To blame this dog for something that noone witnessed is not fair. I regret that I did not bring her in for an autospy. It just doesn't all add up to me. Maybe they were playing and something may of occured, it just so may of been this but I truly don't know and can't say that this dog hurt her in anyway for all we know she may of had a seizure. I don't want to sound like I am making up excuses, I am not, that is the last thing I would do. If I knew in my heart 100% that my bullie hurt her on purpose I wouldn't deny it especially if it was a vicious attack she would be GONE! But this dog is VERY loving, she has been affected by this as well for all I know she may of been trying to help Stormy, she loved Stormy VERY MUCH, they did alot of things together and got along good, yes my dog would try to play rough but every time that would happen Stormy would growl at her and she would leave her alone. It just doesn't make sense.

Because this has even happen gives NOBODY a right to tell me what kind of dog I can own or not, even if I have a big dog here, I see big and small dogs together ALL the time, because someone on here may not agree with it isn't there business really.

I know Stormy touched alot of peoples lives, and she was here for a reason, if her story didn't touch anyone then there is something wrong with them. She was the sweetest dog ever and I would love to keep her memory alive and fight for all the poor abused, mistreated animals in the world and help fight against puppymills since this is where she came from. we really don't know what type of other problems she may of had. I know it may sound like I am crazy or making up excuses but I really am not, I love dogs, I love all animals! ESPECIALLY my Stormy. Everything happens for a reason and I feel what happen, happen because God needed her to come home at the best possible time when she was feeling well and healthy. My WHOLE entire family went through so much heartache, and sleepless nights with her my WHOLE family, everyone is devastated but noone blames my other dog and nobody has said I shouldn't known another yorkie. I come here for support and a shoulder to cry on because you all understand, or so I hoped you would. some may think I am a bad owner, whatever thats fine.

I made this post to just inquire how long people waited, I was in no way saying i was ready to get a new dog and EVEN if I was that is NOONES business! People on here should stop jumping on other people because they don't agree with something, theres more civil ways to handle that, theres nicer ways to tell someone your opinion. I hope I dont sound rude or anything but I am simply stating how I feel. And I feel that I am a pretty damn good owner and if I want another yorkie tomorrow, next week, next year or NEVER is MY DECISION! please don't feel offended but how would you feel someone to tell you you need more experience with yorkies, theres SO MANY people who come on and are first time owners!!!!

I completely agree with you. I feel that some people have jumped on you a little too soon. You came on here for support and to ask what people have done after they have lost a furbaby. You did not come on here for advice or criticism about whether or not you should own another yorkie.

I hope that you are able to decide whether or not you want another yorkie (eventually). I know that you will make an educated decision and not rush into things. I wish you the best of luck!

I just wanted to add that Stormy's story touched me in ways I did not think were possible... RIP Stormy.

[yorkie_mama22]

Originally Posted by CouversMom

I completely agree with you. I feel that some people have jumped on you a little too soon. You came on here for support and to ask what people have done after they have lost a furbaby. You did not come on here for advice or criticism about whether or not you should own another yorkie.

I hope that you are able to decide whether or not you want another yorkie (eventually). I know that you will make an educated decision and not rush into things. I wish you the best of luck!

I just wanted to add that Stormy's story touched me in ways I did not think were possible... RIP Stormy.

Thank you very much, this means alot to me to have people are understand where I am coming from. I am not looking to get another dog yet or any time soon, when it happens it happens but I also don't need people to tell me what to do!

[FlDebra]

Originally Posted by yorkie_mama22

The only way to get experience with small dogs is to own small dogs. Yes I have owned larger dogs in the past only but I also owned a small dog for 10 months without ONE issue. She was healthy and well taken care off, my daughter was even younger then she is now and things were fine except that she would not stop going to the bathroom in my daughters room, even with a closed door she managed to get in some how and go to the bathroom. I rehomed her it was too much for me at the time.

TO be honest and 100% with you I am not even sure that my bullie even TOUCHED Stormy. After much discussion about the incident and step by step what happen it doesn't seem that my bullie bit her, I am not in denial and I am not sticking up for this dog, it just doesn't add up. When I came on here and posted I was grieving and distraught. I only knew what I saw and that was that my dog was dead! I didn't ask for details I was screaming, yelling, crying. You can only imagine what my household was like. It really seems like Stormy may of had a seizure or even a stroke. The way my fiancee describes how he found her, her position, her body, how she was acting is EXACTLY what she was like when she had a seizure, TWICE in one night back in Nov. The vet NEVER figured out what it was and it was put on the backburner because it never happen again. Last Monday I was gone for a few hours and the whole weekend I was at work from 10am til 12pm. I didn't bring her to work that weekend because my daughter had been crying about me leaving and I thought I'd let her stay home because they get along good. For all I know she may of been overwhelmed and stressed out. I started working part-time and brought her in on the weekends with me. The schedule was changed, I don't know if she may of had an undiagnosed issue. Who knows. To blame this dog for something that noone witnessed is not fair. I regret that I did not bring her in for an autospy. It just doesn't all add up to me. Maybe they were playing and something may of occured, it just so may of been this but I truly don't know and can't say that this dog hurt her in anyway for all we know she may of had a seizure. I don't want to sound like I am making up excuses, I am not, that is the last thing I would do. If I knew in my heart 100% that my bullie hurt her on purpose I wouldn't deny it especially if it was a vicious attack she would be GONE! But this dog is VERY loving, she has been affected by this as well for all I know she may of been trying to help Stormy, she loved Stormy VERY MUCH, they did alot of things together and got along good, yes my dog would try to play rough but every time that would happen Stormy would growl at her and she would leave her alone. It just doesn't make sense.

Because this has even happen gives NOBODY a right to tell me what kind of dog I can own or not, even if I have a big dog here, I see big and small dogs together ALL the time, because someone on here may not agree with it isn't there business really.

I know Stormy touched alot of peoples lives, and she was here for a reason, if her story didn't touch anyone then there is something wrong with them. She was the sweetest dog ever and I would love to keep her memory alive and fight for all the poor abused, mistreated animals in the world and help fight against puppymills since this is where she came from. we really don't know what type of other problems she may of had. I know it may sound like I am crazy or making up excuses but I really am not, I love dogs, I love all animals! ESPECIALLY my Stormy. Everything happens for a reason and I feel what happen, happen because God needed her to come home at the best possible time when she was feeling well and healthy. My WHOLE entire family went through so much heartache, and sleepless nights with her my WHOLE family, everyone is devastated but noone blames my other dog and nobody has said I shouldn't known another yorkie. I come here for support and a shoulder to cry on because you all understand, or so I hoped you would. some may think I am a bad owner, whatever thats fine.

I made this post to just inquire how long people waited, I was in no way saying i was ready to get a new dog and EVEN if I was that is NOONES business! People on here should stop jumping on other people because they don't agree with something, theres more civil ways to handle that, theres nicer ways to tell someone your opinion. I hope I dont sound rude or anything but I am simply stating how I feel. And I feel that I am a pretty damn good owner and if I want another yorkie tomorrow, next week, next year or NEVER is MY DECISION! please don't feel offended but how would you feel someone to tell you you need more experience with yorkies, theres SO MANY people who come on and are first time owners!!!!

I do not understand all the hostility you are sending out at all! I did not see anyone jump on you in the least. In fact, I saw where they commended you for looking in to training your bullie and approaching this to ensure safety for your dogs and your child. Just because someone mentions a concern does NOT mean they are telling you what to do or not to do. No one said they blamed your bullie either. I don't think many here blame another dog when they accidently hurt a smaller one during unsupervised play. You are making accusations that just never happened here!

I think EVERYONE who read of all of Stormy's medical history would have some concern! You make it our business when you post on this forum. No one was uncivil at all to you -- in fact it was just the opposite. I think a great deal of care was taken with wording to try to ensure you were not offended or saddened any more than you already are. No one said you were a bad owner! You did make a thread about how long to wait after losing a dog to get another. That does give some indication that you are thinking about getting another even though you say you are not. So, when people mention that maybe a larger dog would work better with this enthusiastic breed you now have, that is not a slam on you! You yourself, said you think you should get a larger dog as a 5 pounder is too small to be with the bullie. So, why are you now throwing a fit when someone else agrees with you?

Your own history is that you had a small dog that you chose to rehome before it was a year old because of housetraining issues. Then you had a small dog that got into Nair and drastically injured her nose, requiring surgery to rebuild it. You told us all how you could not afford the surgery and the vet decided to do the surgery for you anyway. There was a point I thought the dog was being PTS but it turned out that did not happen. Then the vet was going to keep Stormy, I thought. But evidently he decided to give her back to you after the surgery. I may have missed some steps in there and feel free to correct if I got a detail off a bit. Then you tell us that the bullie accidently killed your poor Stormy. Now you say Stormy had a history of seizures and this may have been a seizure. So, if some suggest a larger dog might do better for you and your family (including this bullie) it is with sincere concern and not any slam or insult. I would never tell you one way or another to get a dog or not get a dog. But, when you post about the possibility of getting one -- or in this case, the timing for getting one, then you should expect some input! It might not all be exactly what you want, but rest assured, people are going to comment on what they feel is important for you to consider. Just as you feel you love your dogs, others love and care about the welfare of all dogs too.

I think you may have soem underlying feelings coming from somewhere besides these posts. I reread through and just do not see that anyone was slamming you, insulting you, or telling you what you could or could not have. There was genuine compassion, sincere caring, and concern for all -- you, your family, the bullie, Stormy, and any future dogs you decide to have or not.Try to keep an open mind. Look at the posts in a positive way. For someone to take the time to write to you, shows that they do care. We may not all post exactly what you want us to but I think it should be evident that we care. Good luck in whatever decsion you decide to make, a small or large dog, soon or after a longer period of waiting, to breed the bullie or not, to combine breeding a bullie with another dog, yorkie or otherwise. Lots of alternatives that have been brought up one way or another. So, your thread is NOT a simple one to answer!

[yorkie_mama22]

Originally Posted by FlDebra

I do not understand all the hostility you are sending out at all! I did not see anyone jump on you in the least. In fact, I saw where they commended you for looking in to training your bullie and approaching this to ensure safety for your dogs and your child. Just because someone mentions a concern does NOT mean they are telling you what to do or not to do. No one said they blamed your bullie either. I don't think many here blame another dog when they accidently hurt a smaller one during unsupervised play. You are making accusations that just never happened here!

I think EVERYONE who read of all of Stormy's medical history would have some concern! You make it our business when you post on this forum. No one was uncivil at all to you -- in fact it was just the opposite. I think a great deal of care was taken with wording to try to ensure you were not offended or saddened any more than you already are. No one said you were a bad owner! You did make a thread about how long to wait after losing a dog to get another. That does give some indication that you are thinking about getting another even though you say you are not. So, when people mention that maybe a larger dog would work better with this enthusiastic breed you now have, that is not a slam on you! You yourself, said you think you should get a larger dog as a 5 pounder is too small to be with the bullie. So, why are you now throwing a fit when someone else agrees with you?

Your own history is that you had a small dog that you chose to rehome before it was a year old because of housetraining issues. Then you had a small dog that got into Nair and drastically injured her nose, requiring surgery to rebuild it. You told us all how you could not afford the surgery and the vet decided to do the surgery for you anyway. There was a point I thought the dog was being PTS but it turned out that did not happen. Then the vet was going to keep Stormy, I thought. But evidently he decided to give her back to you after the surgery. I may have missed some steps in there and feel free to correct if I got a detail off a bit. Then you tell us that the bullie accidently killed your poor Stormy. Now you say Stormy had a history of seizures and this may have been a seizure. So, if some suggest a larger dog might do better for you and your family (including this bullie) it is with sincere concern and not any slam or insult. I would never tell you one way or another to get a dog or not get a dog. But, when you post about the possibility of getting one -- or in this case, the timing for getting one, then you should expect some input! It might not all be exactly what you want, but rest assured, people are going to comment on what they feel is important for you to consider. Just as you feel you love your dogs, others love and care about the welfare of all dogs too.

I think you may have soem underlying feelings coming from somewhere besides these posts. I reread through and just do not see that anyone was slamming you, insulting you, or telling you what you could or could not have. There was genuine compassion, sincere caring, and concern for all -- you, your family, the bullie, Stormy, and any future dogs you decide to have or not.Try to keep an open mind. Look at the posts in a positive way. For someone to take the time to write to you, shows that they do care. We may not all post exactly what you want us to but I think it should be evident that we care. Good luck in whatever decsion you decide to make, a small or large dog, soon or after a longer period of waiting, to breed the bullie or not, to combine breeding a bullie with another dog, yorkie or otherwise. Lots of alternatives that have been brought up one way or another. So, your thread is NOT a simple one to answer!

This thread is about how long did OTHERS wait to get a dog, I said that people have asked me if I was looking to get another dog, I didn't have an answer I thought I'd come here and see what people did in my situation. I think you haven't read all the reads, I WAS slammed in another thread by a few individuals I am not making it up, before I even replied to the threads of the people jumping on me I had SEVERAL PM's from other members that where SHOCKED by the response I have gotten! Please don't comment on particular issues if you don't know, if you go through ALL of my threads you will read my frantic thread about my fiancee rushing Stormy to the vet because she had what we believed was a seizure! This isn't new facts, it's old. So what if I rehomed a dog because she wasn't training. The dog didn't work out for our family but she sure caught on to training as soon as she was in a home with no children and another dog to play with, she had lots of attention from the lady who was home all day and had no kids only dogs to spoil, this dog seemed to be VERY needy! I didn't just throw her out, I was actually searching for a home for almost two months for her and I made sure she went to a great home.

As for the surgery yes I said I didn't have the money for surgery, the surgery wasn't mentioned til later on after the nair incident. She was having issues coming up and we were going to the vet, it was a ear infection we thought at first, then it was her eyes, then again her eyes, finally after that she was acting "strange" that is when we went to the vet AGAIN and they said we should PTS so that was the decision made. I thought she was PTS and hours later I got the call she was alive and the new vet thought he could help her. He told me it was going to be very expensive and she would have to stay at the vets, my vet charges 250 per day and he wanted her to stay for several weeks. I am sure lots of people on here couldn't afford that, I did what I thought was the best for my dog and said I would "give" her to him. He didn't just "give" her back to me either, I did pay a few hundred dollars for his services but at a discounted price. I don't think that has anything to do with it. I have spent hundreds of dollars that I didn't have just laying around! If she had a problem I brought her in and did whatever I could to make sure she got the medicine she needed. If I had to borrow money I did that, if I couldn't do something for MYSELF I wouldn't I'd take the extra cash I had and spend it on her.

I have had lots of great supportive feedback yes, and there has been some that hasn't been so nice, you may of just not read it but there has been because I have got very heart felt PM's with people who were stunned at the remarks I have received so if I am not the only one who has notice there obviously was things said to me that other people have also not agreed with. Yes I have put my business on here and made it public, but just because I ask HOW long OTHERS waited doesn't mean I am saying HOW LONG SHOULD I WAIT. Please don't twist my words, I don't want to sound harsh and there isn't any underlying reasons for me sounding rude or whatever you may take it as. I am just upset that people would talk to me the way they have when the people who know me best know I did what I could for my dog and that I cared for her very deeply.

Yes like I said once already I came home and THOUGHT that my bully may of bit her in the neck or something and killed her, but there was no marks so I was not 100% bought on it. I didn't speak about the incident until a couple days later with my fiancee it was very tragic and I didn't want to ask because I was still in shock. After asking him and him explaining to me how it played out I realized that maybe we had misjudged the situation, am I not allowed to say I think something else may of happen?

I don't have a dangerous dog and she is not a threat to my child, theres people out there with more vicious dogs and have kids. I understand very well what people say, and I said I appreciate it, I take all feedback in and some of it just rubs me the wrong way, I can sometimes read between the lines.

[yorkie_mama22]

Originally Posted by yorkie_mama22

Did you wait to get another dog or if you even did? I have had some people ask me but I just don't know when and if I will be ready? I just feel ashamed to think about it and feel like I am betraying her to even consider another dog. I am in no way planning on another dog. I want to get this dog under control and get her into some training courses and wait til she is a bit more matured before I bring another dog into my house so something like this never ever happens again. But I just love the yorkie breed and I can't think of any other dog I'd want to own. I know though if and when I do decide I am going to go for a larger one. 4.8-5lbs is too small especially how fragile she was. I feel horrible to even post this and think about it I hope I don't sound like a terrible owner

Just a side note, I went to visit her grave today I cried all over again but not as much because my mom and her boyfriend were around as well as my daughter so I didn't want her to sense something was wrong. We just sat for a little while at the spot and talked to Stormy, my daughter was even kissing the ground We picked some flowers and laid them down for her. It felt nice to be able to go and be near "her". But she still feels like she is with me in my heart.

Maybe I am reading this wrong but I don't see in any where me saying that I want to get another dog or am thinking about it, I thought I explained clearly my motives.

We bash people on here all the time for wanting tinies, I am saying I don't want a tiny yorkie IF I ever decide to get another one, what is wrong with saying that? Stormy was a puppy mill dog, she was very poorly bred, she had weak bones and just wasn't built strong. I know all the issues that can come from the smaller yorkies, all I was saying is if i got another yorkie ever I would want it to be larger. What is wrong with that??

[yorkie_mama22]

And to add, theres been LOTS of people who just reply to threads to give negative comments or to jump on people, so just because someone answers one of your posts doesn't mean they want to be "nice" or supportive, I know because I've seen it several times.

[FlDebra]

This may be confusing but the black is quoted from your post and the blue is new from me.

Originally Posted by yorkie_mama22

This thread is about how long did OTHERS wait to get a dog....

Okay -- you were just asking what other people did. Your original post sure sounds like you are trying to decide what to do for your own situation. Why else would you even post it? When you make comments like: "I have had some people ask me but I just don't know when and if I will be ready? I just feel ashamed to think about it and feel like I am betraying her to even consider another dog. I want to get this dog under control and get her into some training courses and wait til she is a bit more matured before I bring another dog into my house so something like this never ever happens again. But I just love the yorkie breed and I can't think of any other dog I'd want to own. I know though if and when I do decide I am going to go for a larger one. 4.8-5lbs is too small especially how fragile she was."...it sure seems like you are trying to decide what you are going to do ....not just what OTHERS did.


I think you haven't read all the reads, I WAS slammed in another thread by a few individuals I am not making it up,

See this is what I meant when I said, "I think you may have some underlying feelings coming from somewhere besides these posts. " THIS particular thread does not contain slams to you. So your responses seem inappropriate to me. When people are posting care and concern, you seem to accuse them of slamming you and telling you what to do and not to do. That is not the case in THIS thread. If you are bringing old hate from previous threads to this one, that is unfair. You are right, I am sure I have not read all the "reads" as you put it. Who can keep up with the whole forum and still have a life and take care of their own dogs? So, I may have missed some posts. But right now we are talking about THIS thread.

...before I even replied to the threads of the people jumping on me I had SEVERAL PM's from other members that where SHOCKED by the response I have gotten! Please don't comment on particular issues if you don't know, if you go through ALL of my threads you will read my frantic thread about my fiancee rushing Stormy to the vet because she had what we believed was a seizure! This isn't new facts, it's old.

I still am not seeing all of these people jumping on you. If things are being stirred up by PM then maybe that is part of the problem. I did not say the seizure issue was new at all! It was new that you were blaming the death of poor little Stormy on a seizure. I did understand you were saying that after more consideration you had a different theory about how she died. I was merely summarizing the events and AGAIN I did not comment negatively on them.

So what if I rehomed a dog because she wasn't training...

I did not say ANYTHING negative about what you did with the rehoming. I simply included it in your own history. You are the one who said you rehomed it because it "somehow" would get in to your daughter's room and do its business in there. I did not comment positively or negatively on it. It IS part of your small dog history.

As for the surgery yes I said I didn't have the money for surgery, the surgery wasn't mentioned til later on after the nair incident. She was having issues coming up and we were going to the vet, it was a ear infection we thought at first, then it was her eyes, then again her eyes, finally after that she was acting "strange" that is when we went to the vet AGAIN and they said we should PTS so that was the decision made. I thought she was PTS and hours later I got the call she was alive and the new vet thought he could help her. He told me it was going to be very expensive and she would have to stay at the vets, my vet charges 250 per day and he wanted her to stay for several weeks. I am sure lots of people on here couldn't afford that, I did what I thought was the best for my dog and said I would "give" her to him. He didn't just "give" her back to me either, I did pay a few hundred dollars for his services but at a discounted price. ...

Not one judgemental statement was included in my post, just the history as reported by you. The summary was more for those that maybe did not know anything more than Stormy's death. I made sure NOT to judge as I wrote the summary.

.... but just because I ask HOW long OTHERS waited doesn't mean I am saying HOW LONG SHOULD I WAIT. Please don't twist my words, I don't want to sound harsh and there isn't any underlying reasons for me sounding rude or whatever you may take it as. I am just upset that people would talk to me the way they have when the people who know me best know I did what I could for my dog and that I cared for her very deeply.


I did NOT twist your words at all. I have tried to get you to realize you are bringing some other threads excess baggage to THIS thread and accusing people of things that are NOT true here. If you are going to continue to bring every negative feeling you have ever had into every new thread, then why bother to post? Instead, try to enter each new thread with a fresh frame of mind. Think positively that people DO want to help. The negativity in this thread is coming from you. People IN THIS THREAD have commended you, congratulated you and complimented your efforts. They have given sympathy for poor little Stormy and your own sense of loss. You say people blamed the bully and that is not true either. There are no negative posts here about the bully. Even if it did hurt Stormy accidently, I do not think anyone would blame the bully.

...After asking him and him explaining to me how it played out I realized that maybe we had misjudged the situation, am I not allowed to say I think something else may of happen?

No one said anything otherwise. Of course you can change your story. No one said that you could not. What I did want you to realize is that your whole story from start to finish IS DIFFICULT to follow. So, you should not go off on people if they miss a detail here or there.

I don't have a dangerous dog and she is not a threat to my child, theres people out there with more vicious dogs and have kids. I understand very well what people say, and I said I appreciate it, I take all feedback in and some of it just rubs me the wrong way, I can sometimes read between the lines.

Maybe you are reading TOO MUCH between the lines. I still do not see where anyone told you that your bullie is dangerous or a threat to your child. Maybe that was one of the other "reads" I missed? But again, don't bring old stuff into a new thread. If someone only makes a passing remark about the bullie, do not read between the lines and make it a negative comment. Do not think just because someone tries to summarize a history they are somehow making negative remarks about each part of that history. Just sit back and relax a little. I know this is an emotional time. But don't let that emotional state have you snapping at everyone who posts to your threads. You will wind up having no one answer you anymore because they won't want to take a chance at getting their heads bitten off by your tirades.

A horrible thing happened. If I were you, I would try to learn as much from the tragedy as possible. Let Stormy at least provide a lesson for future situations, whether you decide to get another dog or not. Let Stormy's sweet way of endearing so many people to her situation OPEN lines of communication to help you learn more about dog ownership, training, and potential breeding. Try to see the glass half full instead of half empty when you read a post. Do not think everyone is out to get you. These are my suggestions. You can do, say, or decide anything you want. But try to remember that it is the wisest person who understands they should continue to learn. Good luck to you and any animals you decide to own.