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4doggiemama · 06-04-2008, 06:07 PM

The Connection between animal abuse and violent crimes
The Awful Connection

With our increased awareness, we have also discovered that there is a terribly frightening connection between cruelty toward animals as children and violent crimes toward humans later in life. The Humane Society of the United States (HSUS) has this to say:

Researchers, as well as the FBI and other law enforcement agencies nationwide, have linked animal cruelty to domestic violence, child abuse, serial killings, and to the recent rash of killings by school-age children, according to Dr. Randall Lockwood, vice president of Training Initiatives for The Humane Society of the United States (HSUS).
It is no secret to us in this age of enlightenment that the likes of Jeffrey Dahmer, Ted Bundy, and David Berkowitz all delighted in torturing animals before moving on to human prey. Sadly, many adult serial killers may have also suffered abuse as children.

In a study of 57 families being treated for incidents of child abuse, 88% also abused animals. In two-thirds of the cases, it was the abusive parent who had killed or injured the animals to control a child. In one-third, the children had abused the animals, using them as scapegoats for their anger. (Quoted from The American Humane Association)
In the case of the Columbine shootings, these boys did not even wait until adulthood. They graduated from animal abuse to killing their classmates as teenagers. The same pattern apparently existed among the killings attributed to Kip Kinkel, 15, of Oregon; Mitchell Johnson, 13, and Andrew Golden, 11, of Jonesboro Arkansas; and Luke Woodham, 16, of Pearl, Mississipi.

Cudda84 · 06-04-2008, 06:27 PM

If there is anything I can do please let me know. I live in Arvada but a good friend of mine lives near Standley Lake in the Countryside subdivision. I take my boys there all the time to run in the backyard.

Yorkiesforever · 06-04-2008, 06:34 PM

I am so sorry !!!!!!!!!!!

spr377 · 06-04-2008, 06:46 PM

So sorry for your sister's loss.....I hope you and your family get justice, for the injustice done to you! Hopefully, with your mother pursuing this, it will save other animals as well.......this boy sounds as if he is a serial killer in the making!

jstacy1 · 06-04-2008, 07:23 PM

I just want to tell everyone how much I appreciate your kind words. I was just talking to my sister, she started crying to think of how many people care.

My mom had been waiting around for a call from the animal control. They left her a message saying we sent someone there yesterday there is nothing else we can do. My mom left them another message saying that was not good enough and to call her back. They (animal control) called her again...they again were trying to wipe there hand clean of the situation. But my mom confronted the officer saying isn't it a felony to kill/torture a animal in colorado. The officer didn't respond, but there was a card in the door from the officer when my mom went back to check on the house.

I am going to call an abuse investigation service for the state tomorrow. I hope we find some answers

Beabble · 06-04-2008, 10:33 PM

What a HORRIBLE thing for someone to do!!!! I am so sorry for your sisters loss, actually your whole family, I can imagine this has upset everyone throughout the whole family. I hope whoever did this s caught and has to answer for what they did. Rest in peace lil one.

miabellaamoure · 06-05-2008, 09:21 PM

What a tragedy! I hope you and your family are able to pursue a more further investigation into this as if it was this young neighbor, now is the time to stop him before he does this again...or worse!

If law enforcement doesn't respond to your satisfaction then, definitely the media is a next step to bring public awareness to this situation.

Good luck to your family and again, sorry for your loss

slk77 · 06-06-2008, 08:18 AM

I am so sorry to hear about this horrible incident! I am sick to my stomach to think someone especially a kid would do something like this! Please do contact the media like others had suggested. I think this will bring attention to the matter and prevent another horrible incident like this ever happening again. I hope you do find the person responsible for it.... the person need to be responsible and ensure he understands the pain he had caused for you and your family.

My heart goes out to you since I have loss my Yorkie recently so I know how very hard this must be.

My prayers are with you and please take care.

janedks3406 · 06-06-2008, 08:38 AM

I am so terribly sorry to hear that someone would have the guts to kill a harmless creature, that was so loved by her family, but to do something like that, and now the authorities won't do anything is simply just wrong, what message is this sending to other creeps out there???

I am thinking about your family and I hope you get justice over your sisters wee one!

jfalz73 · 06-06-2008, 08:42 AM

Only a sick,sick person could do something like this. Something needs to be done to bring him to justice before he does another horrible thing. So sorry to hear of such a horrible act on a poor helpless little animal. RIP little one

Lexi Rae · 06-06-2008, 08:49 AM

i would go around the neighborhood and tell everyone whats going
on right in their town.. the neighbors on the whole block would know
thats for sure..

jstacy1 · 06-06-2008, 08:51 AM

My mom just back from the vets. She had an xray done on Lucy. There wasn't a bullet still in her neck. But there was a potential exit wound in her ear. He said that in order to go all the way through the neck it would have to of been .22 bullet. He said with the trajectory it would have had to hit the concrete then it to the underside of her neck. But with out a bullet it didn't make it conclusive a bullet wound. He said it could possibly of been a large bird. Or it also could of been another animal. Like her other dog, a rat terrier, they would like to play rough with each other. but he also pointed out her neck wasn't broken, which would have been likely.
In my heart of hearts I think it was the boy, why would the aunt lie to the police saying he wasn't there, when he was. And why would she of gotten rid of him right after the incident. But I guess it also clears him, kinda. I guess its just time to leave it. Thanks to all of you for your support. It really means alot.

Epsilon · 06-06-2008, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jstacy1

My mom just back from the vets. She had an xray done on Lucy. There wasn't a bullet still in her neck. But there was a potential exit wound in her ear. He said that in order to go all the way through the neck it would have to of been .22 bullet. He said with the trajectory it would have had to hit the concrete then it to the underside of her neck. But with out a bullet it didn't make it conclusive a bullet wound. He said it could possibly of been a large bird. Or it also could of been another animal. Like her other dog, a rat terrier, they would like to play rough with each other. but he also pointed out her neck wasn't broken, which would have been likely.
In my heart of hearts I think it was the boy, why would the aunt lie to the police saying he wasn't there, when he was. And why would she of gotten rid of him right after the incident. But I guess it also clears him, kinda. I guess its just time to leave it. Thanks to all of you for your support. It really means alot.

I am so sorry. This must be so terrible for you all to bear.

I think you should search every inch of the backyard for that bullet.

mscat · 06-06-2008, 12:52 PM

This makes me so ****** pissed off. A beautiful animal, someones beloved pet, is killed by a kid**** That kid is headed for some serious trouble. Doing something like that and getting away with it .Makes me ill. The scary thing about it is the other animals your sister have are now in danger. That mother***** kid is getting away with it, and I fear that if he does he could do it again. I blame the adults in the kids house. He should not have access to a gun in the first place.

I feel like vomiting , it discusses me so much.

Kbsqueff · 06-06-2008, 12:57 PM

Oh L***

It amazes me how deep in the darkness a so called human being can go - feeling pleasure in hurting or taking the life of a defenceless creature...

My heart goes out to you and your family...

06-04-2008, 06:07 PM	#46
4doggiemama Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: KS Posts: 3,290	The Connection between animal abuse and violent crimes The Awful Connection With our increased awareness, we have also discovered that there is a terribly frightening connection between cruelty toward animals as children and violent crimes toward humans later in life. The Humane Society of the United States (HSUS) has this to say: Researchers, as well as the FBI and other law enforcement agencies nationwide, have linked animal cruelty to domestic violence, child abuse, serial killings, and to the recent rash of killings by school-age children, according to Dr. Randall Lockwood, vice president of Training Initiatives for The Humane Society of the United States (HSUS). It is no secret to us in this age of enlightenment that the likes of Jeffrey Dahmer, Ted Bundy, and David Berkowitz all delighted in torturing animals before moving on to human prey. Sadly, many adult serial killers may have also suffered abuse as children. In a study of 57 families being treated for incidents of child abuse, 88% also abused animals. In two-thirds of the cases, it was the abusive parent who had killed or injured the animals to control a child. In one-third, the children had abused the animals, using them as scapegoats for their anger. (Quoted from The American Humane Association) In the case of the Columbine shootings, these boys did not even wait until adulthood. They graduated from animal abuse to killing their classmates as teenagers. The same pattern apparently existed among the killings attributed to Kip Kinkel, 15, of Oregon; Mitchell Johnson, 13, and Andrew Golden, 11, of Jonesboro Arkansas; and Luke Woodham, 16, of Pearl, Mississipi. __________________ Joanne Eli ChipperEva Snowboy Rosie(R.I.P. 1996-July 29, 2013) Cocoa(R.I.P 1998-April 26, 2012):

06-04-2008, 06:34 PM	#48
Yorkiesforever YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,292	I am so sorry !!!!!!!!!!! __________________

06-04-2008, 10:33 PM	#51
Beabble YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,104 Blog Entries: 4	What a HORRIBLE thing for someone to do!!!! I am so sorry for your sisters loss, actually your whole family, I can imagine this has upset everyone throughout the whole family. I hope whoever did this s caught and has to answer for what they did. Rest in peace lil one. __________________ ~Tracy~

06-05-2008, 09:21 PM	#52
miabellaamoure ♥YORKIERESCUE.com♥ Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Menifee, CA Posts: 8,708	What a tragedy! I hope you and your family are able to pursue a more further investigation into this as if it was this young neighbor, now is the time to stop him before he does this again...or worse! If law enforcement doesn't respond to your satisfaction then, definitely the media is a next step to bring public awareness to this situation. Good luck to your family and again, sorry for your loss __________________ Jo Ann Abby, Bella , Phoebe & Violette....

06-06-2008, 08:18 AM	#53
slk77 Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: New York Posts: 59	I am so sorry I am so sorry to hear about this horrible incident! I am sick to my stomach to think someone especially a kid would do something like this! Please do contact the media like others had suggested. I think this will bring attention to the matter and prevent another horrible incident like this ever happening again. I hope you do find the person responsible for it.... the person need to be responsible and ensure he understands the pain he had caused for you and your family. My heart goes out to you since I have loss my Yorkie recently so I know how very hard this must be. My prayers are with you and please take care.

06-04-2008, 06:27 PM	#47
Cudda84 YT Addict Join Date: May 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 392	If there is anything I can do please let me know. I live in Arvada but a good friend of mine lives near Standley Lake in the Countryside subdivision. I take my boys there all the time to run in the backyard.

06-04-2008, 06:46 PM	#49
spr377 Donating Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Upstate, NY Posts: 2,015	So sorry for your sister's loss.....I hope you and your family get justice, for the injustice done to you! Hopefully, with your mother pursuing this, it will save other animals as well.......this boy sounds as if he is a serial killer in the making!

06-04-2008, 07:23 PM	#50
jstacy1 Yorkie Talker Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 24	I just want to tell everyone how much I appreciate your kind words. I was just talking to my sister, she started crying to think of how many people care. My mom had been waiting around for a call from the animal control. They left her a message saying we sent someone there yesterday there is nothing else we can do. My mom left them another message saying that was not good enough and to call her back. They (animal control) called her again...they again were trying to wipe there hand clean of the situation. But my mom confronted the officer saying isn't it a felony to kill/torture a animal in colorado. The officer didn't respond, but there was a card in the door from the officer when my mom went back to check on the house. I am going to call an abuse investigation service for the state tomorrow. I hope we find some answers

06-06-2008, 08:38 AM	#54
janedks3406 Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: canada Posts: 627	I am so terribly sorry to hear that someone would have the guts to kill a harmless creature, that was so loved by her family, but to do something like that, and now the authorities won't do anything is simply just wrong, what message is this sending to other creeps out there??? I am thinking about your family and I hope you get justice over your sisters wee one! __________________ Peeka~Emerald~Heale

06-06-2008, 08:42 AM	#55
jfalz73 Owned by my yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Coats, NC Posts: 5,001	Only a sick,sick person could do something like this. Something needs to be done to bring him to justice before he does another horrible thing. So sorry to hear of such a horrible act on a poor helpless little animal. RIP little one __________________ My little dog-a heartbeat at my feet. -Edith Wharton jeanne BrooklynBenjamin

06-06-2008, 08:49 AM	#56
Lexi Rae Gina, (Lexi's Mommy) Donating Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: LONG ISLAND,NY Posts: 10,455	i would go around the neighborhood and tell everyone whats going on right in their town.. the neighbors on the whole block would know thats for sure.. __________________ Gina & Lexi CLICK HERE for our Photo Album ...

06-06-2008, 08:51 AM	#57
jstacy1 Yorkie Talker Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 24	My mom just back from the vets. She had an xray done on Lucy. There wasn't a bullet still in her neck. But there was a potential exit wound in her ear. He said that in order to go all the way through the neck it would have to of been .22 bullet. He said with the trajectory it would have had to hit the concrete then it to the underside of her neck. But with out a bullet it didn't make it conclusive a bullet wound. He said it could possibly of been a large bird. Or it also could of been another animal. Like her other dog, a rat terrier, they would like to play rough with each other. but he also pointed out her neck wasn't broken, which would have been likely. In my heart of hearts I think it was the boy, why would the aunt lie to the police saying he wasn't there, when he was. And why would she of gotten rid of him right after the incident. But I guess it also clears him, kinda. I guess its just time to leave it. Thanks to all of you for your support. It really means alot.

06-06-2008, 12:52 PM	#59
mscat YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Hanford, CA Posts: 4,895	This makes me so **** pissed off. A beautiful animal, someones beloved pet, is killed by a kid That kid is headed for some serious trouble. Doing something like that and getting away with it .Makes me ill. The scary thing about it is the other animals your sister have are now in danger. That mother*** kid is getting away with it, and I fear that if he does he could do it again. I blame the adults in the kids house. He should not have access to a gun in the first place. I feel like vomiting , it discusses me so much.

06-06-2008, 12:57 PM	#60
Kbsqueff YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Rio Grande do Sul - BRAZIL Posts: 1,054	Oh L*** It amazes me how deep in the darkness a so called human being can go - feeling pleasure in hurting or taking the life of a defenceless creature... My heart goes out to you and your family...