Does this sound right? (Another airline question)

[Bentley'sMom]

Originally Posted by Brittie123

I did talk to a manager at Delta when I got Emmy and found out if you have two dogs of the same breed and they can both fit into a carrier small enough to fit under the seat, they count as one dog.

I am going to have to check on that with Northwest. I was thinking I would have to pick one of my boys to go with me on my trip to my parents' next month, but it would be great if I could take both for the same price!

As far as the bag goes, I used a soft sided sherpa bag (they come in different sizes - I used the small - under 8 pound one for Bentley) when Bentley went home with us over Christmas last year and it worked fine. As far as I know the Sherpa bags are approved on every major airline.

[Carters Mom]

Originally Posted by Meg

I can't wait to hear how it goes! How old is your daugher btw?

Courtney is 15 1/2 and has been spending time at her sister's each summer for 3 years. After her sister got married and moved away (and had kids), I guess she now appreciates spending extra time together. The first year however, I drove her since I was going to my sister's house for a month to help her after the birth of her 2nd child by c-section.

[Meg]

Omigoodness, this is such a run around.

I called again today and the new maximum size is 17 L x 12 W x 8 H. The girl seemed like she knew what she was talking about this time.

I knew 15 H didn't sound right.I am glad I called again!!! Could you see me showing up with this huge bag. But then I asked about the health certificate and she said it depends on the airport we are flying into. So now I need to call SLC Airport.


Carters mom, I have a younger sister (13) who I have become very close to now that she is getting older, even though I am married. We have so much fun together. Your daghters situation reminds me of me and my little sis!

[nemom]

Northwest Airlines charges $80 each way and only allows 1 dog in the cabin PER FLIGHT

Bella's is airline approved, softsided with these plastic arches inside and it's about 10" high maybe 9"....alll airlines are different

Tammy

[Saragp]

Actually it is 2 dogs per main cabin, 1 per First Class and 1 per Buisness Elite. So odds are you can have 3 dogs PER flight. This is per the Delta website.

It's the same for Continental.

Originally Posted by nemom

Northwest Airlines charges $80 each way and only allows 1 dog in the cabin PER FLIGHT

Bella's is airline approved, softsided with these plastic arches inside and it's about 10" high maybe 9"....alll airlines are different

Tammy

[nemom]

Originally Posted by Saragp

Actually it is 2 dogs per main cabin, 1 per First Class and 1 per Buisness Elite. So odds are you can have 3 dogs PER flight. This is per the Delta website.

It's the same for Continental.

All airlines are different - Northwest Airlines is only 1 PER FLIGHT and you have to make a reservation - we are flying out Friday

[Carters Mom]

The number of dogs allowed in the cabins are regulated by how big the plane is or isn't.

On my US Airways flight last month, the first plane had room for both Carter & Cooper but the second flight could only accomodate 1 dog total because it was a smaller plane.

Meg . . . Courtney flew Delta Airlines today and I was able to go to the gate with her. When she checked in, they tagged her carrier for Cooper with a green tag with specific information written on it. The ticket agent made sure that Courtney understood that at no time was Cooper to be allowed outside of his carrier per the FAA regulations.

They didn't measure her carrier and I know its larger than 8" tall but less than 10". Once Courtney was aboard the plane and had been told they would be delayed for takeoff due to traffic in and around Atlanta, she called me. She said the carrier fit with no problem under their seat.

While waiting at the airport, Cooper slept. I hope he sleeps the duration of the flights! They don't arrive at their final destination until 9:38 tonight.

[Carters Mom]

I forgot to mention that I had a lengthy conversation with the TA today. I told her that I belong to a yorkie forum and that several members stated that the rules are relaxed on some flights/airlines/etc. She told me that it is a federal regulation and that no carrier is supposed to allow exceptions to the rule. The airline can be fined if a passenger contacts the FAA and files a complaint that an animal was out of its carrier.

[Bentley'sMom]

Originally Posted by Carters Mom

The number of dogs allowed in the cabins are regulated by how big the plane is or isn't.

On my US Airways flight last month, the first plane had room for both Carter & Cooper but the second flight could only accomodate 1 dog total because it was a smaller plane.

Were Carter and Cooper in one carrier or two separate carriers?

[SoCalyorkiLvr]

Originally Posted by Carters Mom

I forgot to mention that I had a lengthy conversation with the TA today. I told her that I belong to a yorkie forum and that several members stated that the rules are relaxed on some flights/airlines/etc. She told me that it is a federal regulation and that no carrier is supposed to allow exceptions to the rule. The airline can be fined if a passenger contacts the FAA and files a complaint that an animal was out of its carrier.

Carter'sMom~ I am not saying that the TA you spoke with was not telling the truth but she may have been misinformed.

The following is from the FAA website: It seems to say that under FAA rules and regulations, the pet must be in the carrier when the plane is traveling on the "airport surface and for take off and landing". There does not appear to be a federal regulation requiring pets to be stowed "during the flight". I do not think the FAA fines airlines based on a passenger complaint that an animal was out of it's carrier, but I could be wrong. This is just what my research uncovered.

There is also some interesting info later on about people's concern with pet dander and allergies.

Traveling with Pets in the Passenger Cabin
1. What are the FAA rules regarding traveling with pets in the passenger cabin?
The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) allows each airline to decide if they will allow you to travel with your pet in the passenger cabin. If an airline does allow you to bring your pet into the cabin, we consider your pet container to be carry-on baggage and you must follow all carry on baggage rules (14 CFR part 121, section 121.589):

Your pet container must be small enough to fit underneath the seat without blocking any person’s path to the main aisle of the airplane.
Your pet container must be stowed properly before the last passenger entry door to the airplane is closed in order for the airplane to leave the gate.
Your pet container must remain properly stowed the entire time the airplane is moving on the airport surface, and for take off and landing.
You must follow flight attendant instructions regarding the proper stowage of your pet container.
2. What kind of general procedures do most airlines have in place?
If an airline allows you to travel with your pet in the cabin, you must follow all FAA regulations. Usually, most airlines have additional policies and procedures for you to follow to make sure that the flight is comfortable for all passengers on the airplane. These additional procedures may include
A limited list of the types of pets that you can bring into the cabin
A limit on the number of pets in the cabin
A limit on the number of pets that may accompany you on the airplane
A requirement that your pet be harmless, inoffensive and odorless
A requirement that your pet remain in the container for the entire flight
A requirement that you be able to produce a recently issued health certificate for your pet
3. How do I find out if an airline allows or does not allow pets to travel in the passenger cabin and what their policies and procedures are?
You can find out what the specific policies and procedures are for each airline in several ways. You can call the airlines’ reservations line and get information from the agent who takes your call. You can also look at an airline’s website to get information about their policies for traveling with pets.
4. Are there any airlines that do not allow pets to travel in the cabin?
Some airlines do not allow any pets to travel in the cabin. You can use the information above to find out specific policies for each airline.
5. Can I be sure that there will be no animals on my flight if an airline does not allow pets in the cabin?
No, you can’t be sure. The Department of Transportation (DOT) has rules (14 CFR part 382) that require airlines to allow passengers to fly with their service animals in the cabin on all U.S. airlines. Service animals are not pets. They are working animals that assist persons with disabilities. There is no limit to the number of service animals that can be on any flight. Service animals do not need any health certificates to travel and they do not need to be confined in a container or cage.
6. I have severe allergies to pet dander. How can I be sure that there is no pet dander on my flight?
You will still be exposed to pet dander on every flight, even without any pets in the passenger cabin. This is because most allergens are carried into the cabin on the clothes of other passengers.
7. Then what should I do if I am allergic to pet dander, but I need to fly?
First, you can reduce the chance that there will be an animal in the cabin on your flight. You can fly on an airline that does not allow pets in the cabin. You can also ask the reservations agent for your airline if another passenger on the same flight has made reservations to travel with a pet. You should also check with your allergist or doctor before your trip to discuss travel related risks and ask if you should carry medications with you. If a reaction should occur during the flight, follow your doctor’s treatment instructions and ask a flight attendant for assistance.
8. Where can I go to get more information about traveling with pets in the passenger cabin?
You can get more information about traveling with your pet from the following:
Department of Transportation
U.S. Department of Agriculture
National Center for Infectious Diseases
AC 121-36: Management of Passengers who may be Sensitive to Allergens

[txshopper73]

Um, anyway, I'm glad that the airlines are allowing our little furbabies into the cabin now. A long time ago, they were only allowed in the cargo area. But at least if they are in the cabin, we know that they will be safe!

[Carters Mom]

I guess that I'm wrong all the time. I won't be baited.

Evidently the TA I spoke to at the Delta Ticket Counter in New Orlean's Armstrong International Airport didn't know what she was talking about.

I completely and wholeheartedly withdraw my original post.

[txshopper73]

Oh no, not again!

[LvMyYorki]

Originally Posted by txshopper73

Oh no, not again!

My thoughts exactly! Since we are talking about airlines and flying... instead of a "No Flight Zone"... How about a "No Soapbox Zone"!

[txshopper73]

Admin should allow a thread for people to just have it out on. Let's say, once a year and once they get it out of their system, we just move on!