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Old 09-26-2007, 10:26 PM   #31
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Let me begin with telling you that you have every right to be upset that you were dupped. You've come across a disreputable breeder.

Second let me go on to tell you AKC papers only prove that both your dog's parents were registered, it doesn't prove that that your dog is pure bred (most likely she is). There is no test out to date that proves that there wasn't some hanky panky in the wood pile way back in her pedigree. Anyway not having papers is in your eyes very important. If you don't have a signed contract that the breeder would provide you AKC papers you're pretty much hosed. If you do....don't let the breeder get away with it. If you plan to breed your female, and sell puppies, then you'll probably have to sell them for less. As far as your female being 6-7 pounds.....how wonderful. It's the weight range I prefer my breeding females to be. But, what is more important is they are a great representation of the breed, that I know their pedigree, that they come from a line of free whelpers.

In closing.....good for you, stand by your convictions of breeding pure bred yorkies.....good luck to you.


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Thank you so much for your kind words and everyone elses I don't want to ofened anyone but if I do breed I only wanna breed purebreed yorkies I think it is very important that we perserve the breed and like I said I perfer purebreed yorkies I'm glad I got to find out where coco's parents are from because for the longest time I thought she was a mill dog and I now noe she's not. If the breeders of her parents don't give the papers for them to be akc registed I can at least get the pedigrees and that way I know what lines coco comes from. I'm still waiting for a reply from them and will keep everyone updated I did want to get into showing when I get older so I will probably get another yorkie in the future and probly form a breeder on yorkietalk. Oh and one more question since I might not have papers if I do breed what should I price the puppies at because I have no idea mary what do u think?
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well i think you should not breed an unpapered dog there is more than enough people out there doing as such as you have learned
i would never purcchase an un papered dog save your money and do it right if you want to be a respected breeder and start off right
it is really not about how much to ask for an unpapered dog . you can go onto many different sites and there are all kind of prices out there on for sale sites you need to learn all you can before ever trying to breed have you read some of the horror stories of loosing pups mother etc i know of a 7 pound mother that had to have a c section breeding is not an easy thing there is so much more to it than just having pups you are risking your mothers life and the pups if you are unexperinced in breeding
please start out right read talk and learn you do not want to start out being another byb breeding with a no papered dog be respected for your passion
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Thank you so much for your kind words and everyone elses I don't want to ofened anyone but if I do breed I only wanna breed purebreed yorkies I think it is very important that we perserve the breed and like I said I perfer purebreed yorkies I'm glad I got to find out where coco's parents are from because for the longest time I thought she was a mill dog and I now noe she's not. If the breeders of her parents don't give the papers for them to be akc registed I can at least get the pedigrees and that way I know what lines coco comes from. I'm still waiting for a reply from them and will keep everyone updated I did want to get into showing when I get older so I will probably get another yorkie in the future and probly form a breeder on yorkietalk. Oh and one more question since I might not have papers if I do breed what should I price the puppies at because I have no idea mary what do u think?
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The most important thing is the health of your dogs and puppies. You're primary concern when placing puppies is that they are placed in preapproved homes. As far as placing unregistered dogs.........mmmmmm take a look at your local paper...you'll get an idea for your area.

I do not advocate anyone breeding unless they have completely emersed themselves in the breed. That is study, study, study. Learn everything you can before you get near a whelping box. Your goal is to improve the breed, and in doing so....there should be no shortcuts.......ethics, integrity and the welfare of this gorgeous breed should be at the top of your list.

As far as you showing....good for you and since this is in your plans, it would be where you should start before even attempting to breed. Not the other way around.

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well i think you should not breed an unpapered dog there is more than enough people out there doing as such as you have learned
i would never purcchase an un papered dog save your money and do it right if you want to be a respected breeder and start off right
it is really not about how much to ask for an unpapered dog . you can go onto many different sites and there are all kind of prices out there on for sale sites you need to learn all you can before ever trying to breed have you read some of the horror stories of loosing pups mother etc i know of a 7 pound mother that had to have a c section breeding is not an easy thing there is so much more to it than just having pups you are risking your mothers life and the pups if you are unexperinced in breeding
please start out right read talk and learn you do not want to start out being another byb breeding with a no papered dog be respected for your passion
I don't plan on breeding for awhile probably after I start showing so the pups I would have for sale would be fully registerd as for breeding coco that would be for family and friends only but I don't want to give the pups away because I have learned that a lot of ppl don't appriciate things that they dont pay for as much as if they would have paid for it but that's another thread my fam and friends like yorkies but they could care less about papers and pedigrees there not into yorkies as much as I am and everyone here on yorkietalk so her being unregistered wouldn't be a problem and I would have all her pups fixed before going to her new homes so that they wouldn't be breed yup yup yup so that's my plan that and to learn as much as I can about breeding and yorkies!!!!
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I think that sounds like a secret plan to keep on seeing the puppies, if you go about breeding and homing the puppies that way
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I think that sounds like a secret plan to keep on seeing the puppies, if you go about breeding and homing the puppies that way
Lmao of lol sooo true but shhh don't tell no one hahaha I would love to keep dem all lol and that way coco can see her babies and keep in touch lol
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