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love_me_cody 09-24-2007 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by shannette barbe (Post 1391688)
i have said goodnight several times and the remarks keep coming they are not from kelly either they are from peoplelike lorraine who just dont get it that i care more about gettin my chocs out there and exposed as a great breed than i do about her yorki standard in some book
Please, don't put people together in one negative category. Everyone had their opinion and you agreed or disagreed. There. That's it. Don't keep replying because they will reply back. It's not helping because everyone wants to defend theirselves.

yorkiekist 09-24-2007 08:13 PM
yorkie standard in a book somewhere??
 
If you dont even care about the standard of this beautiful breed, then get another breed. Seems like all you care about is your own agenda.

shannette barbe 09-24-2007 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by MyFairLacy (Post 1391690)
Well, the goal of those breeders was to breed a steel blue and tan dog. There is absolutely no mention of chocolate or liver in the breed standard - until recently anyway. They just added to the standard, which specifically says that chocolates and livers are a disqualification.
ask yourself this if these kennel clubs werent considering these dogs for show in the future why allow them to be registered with these known colores ? akc started recognizing choc and livers i believe in 2003 they have had four years to develope stronger healthier lines than ever

MyFairLacy 09-24-2007 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by shannette barbe (Post 1391697)
ask yourself this if these kennel clubs werent considering these dogs for show in the future why allow them to be registered with these known colores ? akc started recognizing choc and livers i believe in 2003 they have had four years to develope stronger healthier lines than ever
There are a lot of breeds that will allow you to recognize colors that are disqualifications in the ring. If the dog is purebred, they are going to register it. But that doesn't mean they'll allow it to be shown, and that doesn't mean it should be bred. There are white german shepherds but they are a disqualification, there are white boxers but they are a disqualification, there are lemon beagles but they are a disqualification. Just because a color can exist doesn't mean they'll ever be considered for show. All of these other colors were just considered for show and they were all just turned down. It was released in march that only blue and tan yorkies can be shown

shannette barbe 09-24-2007 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by MyFairLacy (Post 1391704)
There are a lot of breeds that will allow you to recognize colors that are disqualifications in the ring. If the dog is purebred, they are going to register it. But that doesn't mean they'll allow it to be shown, and that doesn't mean it should be bred. There are white german shepherds but they are a disqualification, there are white boxers but they are a disqualification, there are lemon beagles but they are a disqualification. Just because a color can exist doesn't mean they'll ever be considered for show. All of these other colors were just considered for show and they were all just turned down. It was released in march that only blue and tan yorkies can be shown
well i believe different and that is my poragative and you have yours i see these dogs making big influences on sights online and at shows whether in them or not they are taking off and some kennel club is gonna cash in on it sooner or later you wait and see how did the liver and tan bloodhound make the cut 3 years in a row

love_me_cody 09-24-2007 08:21 PM
I know this is off subject again but wanted to say i love the beef jerky commercial with the sashquash/big foot (sp?). Just came on. He hit him really hard with that stick..lol... I love it

MyFairLacy 09-24-2007 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by shannette barbe (Post 1391710)
well i believe different and that is my poragative and you have yours i see these dogs making big influences on sights online and at shows whether in them or not they are taking off and some kennel club is gonna cash in on it sooner or later you wait and see how did the liver and tan bloodhound make the cut 3 years in a row
Well, good luck in your endeavor. I don't see the yorkshire terrier standard opening up - too many breeders that care about keeping the standard the way it is.

shannette barbe 09-24-2007 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by shannette barbe (Post 1391710)
well i believe different and that is my poragative and you have yours i see these dogs making big influences on sights online and at shows whether in them or not they are taking off and some kennel club is gonna cash in on it sooner or later you wait and see how did the liver and tan bloodhound make the cut 3 years in a row
you are also talking about goals of people from 200 years ago alot more people and alot more opinions now as well

shannette barbe 09-24-2007 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by MyFairLacy (Post 1391715)
Well, good luck in your endeavor. I don't see the yorkshire terrier standard opening up - too many breeders that care about keeping the standard the way it is.
again i dont want my dogs compared to the standard i wont there own standard seperate

kelleykrack 09-24-2007 08:23 PM
look at it this way...the more education shannett can do the more it can prevent byb and puppy mills from selling them as "rare" and for tons of money
good can come from her taking hers to the shows, not necessarily to show them, at least until they decide if there will be a standard, but to show people that dont know any better and to let them know that they are not rare and should not cost anymore that a normal priced pet quality yorkie

Amber_lv 09-24-2007 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by shannette barbe (Post 1391710)
well i believe different and that is my poragative and you have yours i see these dogs making big influences on sights online and at shows whether in them or not they are taking off and some kennel club is gonna cash in on it sooner or later you wait and see how did the liver and tan bloodhound make the cut 3 years in a row
Soryy but you just hit the nail on the head with your post and that was what this really is all about CASHNG IN ON IT!!:mad: :thumbdown

shannette barbe 09-24-2007 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by kelleykrack (Post 1391719)
look at it this way...the more education shannett can do the more it can prevent byb and puppy mills from selling them as "rare" and for tons of money
good can come from her taking hers to the shows, not necessarily to show them, at least until they decide if there will be a standard, but to show people that dont know any better and to let them know that they are not rare and should not cost anymore that a normal priced pet quality yorkie
thank you kelly that is alot of what im trying to do educate people on them they arent rare they were extenquished from the line because no country of origin or kennel club wanted them now there are hundreds of people out there who want them just because they ARE different. and they are getting hit with ridicoulous prices for them. its not right. if you pay 3000 for a dog it should be a show dog am i right or wrong?

Amber_lv 09-24-2007 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by shannette barbe (Post 1391725)
thank you kelly that is alot of what im trying to do educate people on them they arent rare they were extenquished from the line because no country of origin or kennel club wanted them now there are hundreds of people out there who want them just because they ARE different. and they are getting hit with ridicoulous prices for them. its not right. if you pay 3000 for a dog it should be a show dog am i right or wrong?
I am sorry but i do agree but....... You are not selling show quality dogs they are not allowed in the shows and you are sellug them for $3500.00???

kelleykrack 09-24-2007 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Amber_lv (Post 1391722)
Soryy but you just hit the nail on the head with your post and that was what this really is all about CASHNG IN ON IT!!:mad: :thumbdown
please reread that..she didnt say she was cashing in on it cause shes not..she said the kennel clubs were going to eventually...the most ive seen her charge is 1100 for one and that was less than what she had in the dog..

shannette barbe 09-24-2007 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Amber_lv (Post 1391722)
Soryy but you just hit the nail on the head with your post and that was what this really is all about CASHNG IN ON IT!!:mad: :thumbdown
no mam not cashing in at all making sure that if the time does come there are reputable dogs out there to represent the standard set for them. not to push the price up but to lower it the more common the less the price you are lookin at it backwards the only people realy cashing in are she shows and the breeders saying they are rare

HallTx1203 09-24-2007 08:29 PM
I am almost scared to ask....What is the difference between Chocolate and Liver and Tan? Is there a difference? I am sooooo new to all this....

shannette barbe 09-24-2007 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Amber_lv (Post 1391728)
I am sorry but i do agree but....... You are not selling show quality dogs they are not allowed in the shows and you are sellug them for $3500.00???
im not selling anything why does everyone keep saying that

kelleykrack 09-24-2007 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Amber_lv (Post 1391728)
I am sorry but i do agree but....... You are not selling show quality dogs they are not allowed in the shows and you are sellug them for $3500.00???
who said she was selling them for that much?? shes not...the breeder who started this entire post is selling hers for that much...look up the OP's threads started...i think someone on here said that she listed one on here within the last couple of days for that amout...

shannette barbe 09-24-2007 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by HallTx1203 (Post 1391732)
I am almost scared to ask....What is the difference between Chocolate and Liver and Tan? Is there a difference? I am sooooo new to all this....
choc is brown color liver has a redish tent to the brown

feminvstr 09-24-2007 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by shannette barbe (Post 1391718)
again i dont want my dogs compared to the standard i wont there own standard seperate

A Yorkshire Terrier is a Yorkshire Terrier there will NEVER be more than ONE WRITTEN STANDARD! What make you think you will supercede the mother club YTCA is who writes the standard which the AKC adopts...think ya might want to have a chat with Janet Jackson (hint; she is not part of the Jackson singing family)

ok I took the bait one more time, dont blame me I am hungry!

love_me_cody 09-24-2007 08:31 PM
I think if you're really trying to make them be a breed upon themselves then you should talk to chocolate breeders to stop making the prices high and to atleast make them the going prices for a standard yorkie. I know it's not you who's making the prices high but if you're trying to make them their own breed then you should atleast be talking to other chocolate breeders (:D ) and get opinions about things and what not. At that time see what their prices are and see their intentions..

kelleykrack 09-24-2007 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by feminvstr (Post 1391739)
A Yorkshire Terrier is a Yorkshire Terrier there will NEVER be more than ONE WRITTEN STANDARD! What make you think you will supercede the mother club YTCA is who writes the standard which the AKC adopts...think ya might want to have a chat with Janet Jackson (hint; she is not part of the Jackson singing family)

ok I took the bait one more time, dont blame me I am hungry!
isnt it past your bedtime?? we were having a nice conversation till you came back in the picture with all your crazy remarks

love_me_cody 09-24-2007 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by kelleykrack (Post 1391743)
isnt it past your bedtime?? we were having a nice conversation till you came back in the picture with all your crazy remarks
It's past my bedtime, too. But we needed a bedtime snack.. have some?:D

shannette barbe 09-24-2007 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by feminvstr (Post 1391739)
A Yorkshire Terrier is a Yorkshire Terrier there will NEVER be more than ONE WRITTEN STANDARD! What make you think you will supercede the mother club YTCA is who writes the standard which the AKC adopts...think ya might want to have a chat with Janet Jackson (hint; she is not part of the Jackson singing family)

ok I took the bait one more time, dont blame me I am hungry!
again dont want original standard changed want a standard for this line of dogs thats it

kelleykrack 09-24-2007 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by love_me_cody (Post 1391740)
I think if you're really trying to make them be a breed upon themselves then you should talk to chocolate breeders to stop making the prices high and to atleast make them the going prices for a standard yorkie. I know it's not you who's making the prices high but if you're trying to make them their own breed then you should atleast be talking to other chocolate breeders (:D ) and get opinions about things and what not. At that time see what their prices are and see their intentions..
There is no use in talking to some breeders, all they see is the money they can make. so she is going straight to the buyers, educating them so that they will not continue to support the lies and the pockets of the breeders who say it is rare

Amber_lv 09-24-2007 08:34 PM
I give up seriously................. Good night

shannette barbe 09-24-2007 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Amber_lv (Post 1391751)
I give up seriously................. Good night
thanks for hanging in this long amber sorry girl

HallTx1203 09-24-2007 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by shannette barbe (Post 1391736)
choc is brown color liver has a redish tent to the brown


Ohhhhhh....OK...Thank you for explaining that.....Like I said earlier, I am learning all this...

shannette barbe 09-24-2007 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by HallTx1203 (Post 1391756)
Ohhhhhh....OK...Thank you for explaining that.....Like I said earlier, I am learning all this...
actually that is more the reason i thought i was here didnt know i was gonna have court today lol love to discuss animals period

kelleykrack 09-24-2007 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by love_me_cody (Post 1391746)
It's past my bedtime, too. But we needed a bedtime snack.. have some?:D
lol...


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